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High Street Rant

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Sarcelle · 21/09/2018 13:00

Decided to go to local shops a) to return jumper to M & S b) to look for black and blue jeans - in Debenhams and M&S - these are the only shops close by that would have jeans for me.

Debenhams - no suitable jeans. Tried on 5 jumpers instead. The sleeves on all were ridiculously long, I would have had to have folded them over 2-3 times so that they were wrist length. Mentioned to changing room woman,just by way of conversation, and she said she has noticed the same. We both agreed our arms were not freakishly short.

Got sidetracked by a bag for commute. Went to pay for it. Lovely sales assistant. I waited for the script - the one pushing the Debenhams card. It duly came. Except she kept on going. When she made her fourth attempt (I am not exaggerating) I said politely, I have said no 3 times already. She smiled sadly at me and said she was only trying to do her job. I said do they make you say this stuff, she nodded. She then said she understood why I would be annoyed at this, she felt the same. I said that I had complained to Debenhams before about this , she just smiled and raised her eyebrows. I said that neither of us got anything positive out of this transaction and was not fair on either of us. This was cordial and friendly. She then did the other newer script about if you lose your paper receipt you cannot get a refund, can I take your email details. As this is an attempt by Debenhams to get your email address to get around GDPR I said no. As I left I said I am sorry if I sounded off at you, I know it is not your fault. She said she agreed with everything I said, she felt the same. Debenhams are clearing pushing their staff to do this - I feel so sorry for them. Pushing this on me has pushed me away from their store. I am only going in there again only if I am desperate.

On to M & S. I had selected Sparks offers before I left and my card is on my phone.

Saw a pile of jumpers - all folder with ribbon round them and with a card insert. Only one was unfolded in a size 12. Looked too big (I am a large size 12) so had to take a folded size 10. Looked for jeans. Usual cramped display, the black ones all looked dusty. I took a blue size 12 ones. Went to changing room. Nobody there, waited a bit and decided to go in. Whilst changing I could hear that the M & S person was now there. She was directing somebody to a changing room - the person said it is full of stock. The M & S SA said, you can squeeze yourself in! Customer refused, and said that’s ridiculous. Why would I want to do that? I think she left.

Meanwhile my size 10 jumper was too big, size 12 jeans too small. Left changing rooms leaving the unwanted items at desk. Went back to jumper stand, had to take a folded size 6 and 8 as I still could not guage the size - assume the are folded up for Christmas presents. Pretty but not very convenient if you want to look at the sizing. Onto jeans - took size 14 in, and another style in blackness in size 12. Got sidetracked by their active range - they had a warm zippy which I liked. My sparks offers included 20 % off active wear/5 pounds off jeans. They only had a couple of zippys - took in size 14.

Size 8 jumper fitted (no way am I an 8), size 14 jeans too big, size 12 black jean a bit tight and not flattering, but desperate, size 14 zippy perfect. So, to the till. Lovely SA. She has worked there a while, always helpful and smiley. Money came off jeans, she swapped over the jumper I was returning for the new one, but no money came off zippy. I queried that, she said it must not be in the 20 % offer even though it was badged as activewear. She did not understand that my card was on my phone rather than a physical one. I think she expected me to pay full price or leave it. I asked her to get somebody else to help. Someone came and after a while agreed that the activewear offer was loaded on my card and the zippy was activewear. I asked if she could manually take off 20%. She said no. I said, then what do we do. She said the manager could help. Called manager and they told her to take 20 percent off. People being held up in a queue all the while. So, endlessly long trying on session where I am 3 different sizes and a kerfuffle at the till.

Sorry for the length of this post. I really miss the old High Street. The one where you were a consistent size in the shops, where they did not push you to take out exorbitantly expensive charge cards, where the changing rooms were staffed properly and in a fit state for the customer, where the clothes did not look like they had been dragged through a hedge backwards and then put on a hanger for somebody to buy, where the clothes were presented in a tidy manner and not over reliant on manmade fabrics. Do you think any of the chains and multiples actually care about any of this?

I was born near Oxford Street (but shopped locally today). I used to love a mooch around the shops. It was a pleasurable thing to do but now it is the complete opposite. My dying affair with the High Street is now over. I am going to try and get everything online. I tasked myself with saving a big amount of money between Oct-March so I was not going to buy any more clothes after today until Spring. I thought I going to find that hard. It won’t be after today’s final nail in the coffin.

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Elledorado · 22/09/2018 03:31

unfortunately the online option is equally as frustrating! no customer service or little online customer service from many high street stores.

SnugglySnerd · 22/09/2018 03:39

Last time I went shopping I actually said to dh that I can see why all the shops keep closing. It is a horrible experience and customer service is terrible in many shops.
Buying online isn't always good either especially if I want to try lots of sizes or styles eg jeans or bras as I would have to pay hundreds up front and then go through the palava of returning most items after trying them all on.

hammeringinmyhead · 22/09/2018 08:21

I am with you. I only shop online or at outlet villages, where you at least expect a bit of a mishmash of sizing options and cramped stores as the stockrooms are so small they ram everything out at once. I don't mind so much when you're paying accordingly.

I assume Debenhams will go the way of BHS and HoF soon.

Sarcelle · 22/09/2018 08:22

After I wrote that I tried to navigate Uniqlos website. That was equally frustrating!

I think I am ready to pare down my wardrobe but spend more on the individual pieces so that I shop less. I am not buying anything now until Spring (I have everything I need) and as I said I thought I would struggle with that, but now I am looking forward to not shopping.

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peachypetite · 22/09/2018 08:24

Totally agree. I get everything online now.

TravellingFleet · 22/09/2018 09:06

Ive had a couple of great experiences lately in independent shops - a knowledgeable owner, selecting things that would work for me, helping with the fitting, encouraging but not pushy, nice chats with another customer, good returns policy so I could try the shoes on at home with the relevant dress. That’s what shopping should be.

someonekillbabyshark · 22/09/2018 09:35

I never shop in store probably 4 times a year I go to primark to stock up on socks and vests for DD the rest I do online

Sarcelle · 22/09/2018 10:28

The Uniqlo website I mentioned might be a frustrating experience but I have just received the belt I ordered late afternoon yesterday! Speedy delivery. I was expecting it Mon or Tuesday.

That’s it now. Everything hung, folded and ready for all that the next 6 months brings. Hope my withdrawal from spending does not cause a tecession!

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Sarcelle · 22/09/2018 10:29

Or even a recession.

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JungMum · 22/09/2018 10:34

I buy everything on line and yes occasionally you make a mistake and don't return something that you're a bit meh about when it arrives but on the whole if you stick to shops you know, use a local tailor, are prepared to return things and actually get around to returning them it works. I hate when they make returning difficult by making you print off a returns label.

squiz81 · 22/09/2018 11:06

I popped into Debenhams for something last year and vowed never again! The whole shop was so shabby and depressing.

The quality seems poor too. I was in Warehouse and was really shocked at the quality of fabrics and finishing for the price they were charging.

I feel I have a nicer shopping experience in charity shops these days!!

Floisme · 22/09/2018 11:20

I agree with about the high street but I dislike online shopping too. Totally joyless and it pisses me off that I have to fork out for at least 2 sizes of everything and then wait around for a refund. Plus it means I’m less likely to try anything new so I slip into a style rut.

My favourite shopping these days is a trip to a local dress agency followed by a wander round the second hand and charity shops. Even if I come away empty handed I still get to chat to real people who are into what they do and who don’t try and foist a store card on me.

HildaZelda · 22/09/2018 11:47

Completely agree OP. My local Debenhams is dreadful. I won't be surprised when it finally closes and I really feel sorry for the staff having to push stuff like that.

I notice Superdrug are terrible for that too, staff promoting the perfumes and asking if you need a phone top up. I don't blame THEM at all. I understand it's not their fault. They're being forced to do it from above.
My friend's DD had a Saturday job there and said the pressure to do that was terrible, and they constantly had mystery shoppers in so they knew if staff were actually doing it or not and they got a severe bollocking if not.

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