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Exspensive facecream or save up for Botox?

45 replies

Disabrie22 · 03/09/2018 15:45

What would you do? Buy an exspensive face cream or make do and save up for Botox? I don’t want to waste time if Botox is the only way to reduce wrinkles?

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Mum2jenny · 06/09/2018 22:38

Couldn't be bothered, my face is my face. Lots of these creams cost a fortune and deliver fuck all.

Use a good basic moisturiser i.e. Simple and it will do what it says on the pack.

RosyP · 07/09/2018 02:28

Talkstotrees 56

Millykitty · 07/09/2018 10:15

I would make your own vit c serum. It's super easy, even the most basic mix of vit c powder & water works really well. I mix glycerine, rose water and vit c powder. Vit c oxidises quick so best made weekly. It works amazing for fine lines and gives a really nice glow

CoteDAzur · 07/09/2018 10:28

"I would make your own vit c serum. It's super easy, even the most basic mix of vit c powder & water works really well. I mix glycerine, rose water and vit c powder."

It doesn't actually. See here:

3.1.3. Topical Application of Vitamin C

When plasma levels are low, some vitamin C can be delivered to the epidermal layer by topical application, although the efficacy of this is dependent on the formulation of the cream or serum used on the skin [51,52,53,54,55]. Vitamin C, as a water-soluble and charged molecule, is repelled by the physical barrier of the terminally differentiated epidermal cells. It is only when pH levels are below 4 and vitamin C is present as ascorbic acid that some penetration occurs [56].

A great deal of effort has been put into the development of ascorbic acid derivatives for the purpose of topical application. Such derivatives need to ensure stabilization of the molecule from oxidation and also overcome the significant challenge of skin penetration. In addition, they must be converted to ascorbic acid in vivo in order to be effective. Whether there is a single solution to all these challenges is unclear [57]. The addition of a phosphate group confers greater stability and these derivatives may be converted to ascorbic acid in vivo, albeit at a slow rate [58], but they are poorly absorbed through the skin [56,59,60]. Ascorbyl glucoside also exhibits superior stability and can penetrate, but the rate of its in vivo conversion is not known [57,61,62,63]. Derivatives containing lipid-soluble moieties such as palmitate are designed to assist with delivery, and although increased uptake has been demonstrated in animals [64], they do not necessarily show improved stability and there is some doubt as to whether these derivatives are efficiently converted in vivo [57]. Recent studies suggest that encapsulation into a lipospheric form may assist with transport into the lower layers of the epidermis and could result in increased uptake [65,66,67].

princesstiasmum · 09/09/2018 20:36

I recognise the nu face, but what is the pink one?
I have the nu face mini, but not sure if its doing anything,had it a long time, maybe they get weaker

Tinkerbellx · 09/09/2018 22:01

Botox here !
Had it twice now on my frown lines and under my eyebrows .
Now I can put my eye shadow on and it's smooth it's like the droop has lifted and I look wide awake even when I'm shattered or hungover .

Ollivander84 · 09/09/2018 22:06

For me it's
Retinol
SPF
Botox for my pain lines (frowning because of some months of severe pain), I have in between brows heavily done and lightly on forehead, looks v natural

whynot93 · 12/09/2018 19:52

Another vote for Botox! I've had many expensive face creams in my time and nothing compares to Botox. I have had it twice and went to a family wedding this weekend.. some couldn't believe my age (46).

Bestseller · 12/09/2018 19:57

Smile and no one will see the wrinkles. Find something to spend your time and money on that will make you happy, having wrinkles, or not, is going to change absolutely nothing

Bluelady · 13/09/2018 08:52

I long ago accepted that nobody gives a shit about my wrinkles or how old I look except me and I don't care much. I've always been able to find myriads of things I'd rather spend my money on than Botox or fillers but each to their own I guess.

Loonoon · 13/09/2018 09:11

botox, a retinol or glycolic skincare product and strong sunscreen every day are the dream team for me. I’ve had all sorts of procedures and interventions but these are the ones that really make a difference.

cloudtree · 13/09/2018 09:15

Botox is not 270 though OP. I had two areas done yesterday for £150

Elephantinacravat · 13/09/2018 10:32

Face cream is face cream whether you spend a fiver or 100 quid.

You could spend money on Botox but I can't really get on board with people injecting poison into their faces to make themselves look younger than they actually are.

I would just buy a moisturiser, some sort of acid toner thing as they make your skin nice and glowy (don't overdo it though!) and sunscreen. Your face is going to get wrinkly as you get older and unless you want to end up with the old 'frozen face' syndrome there isn't really much you can do about it.

cloudtree · 13/09/2018 10:56

Face cream is face cream whether you spend a fiver or 100 quid.

Unless it contains retinol

Elephantinacravat · 13/09/2018 11:26

Unless it contains retinol

Well yes, but just slapping 'retinol' on the label doesn't actually mean anything does it? There are all sorts of different derivations of Vitamin A, retinoids etc all with different strengths and having 'retinol' on the label doesn't mean its actually effective in changing the structure of your skin.

Also, as I understand it (remembering that Horizon programme about skincare from ages ago), if a topical product actually makes a significant, proven difference to the structure of your skin over time, it has to be classed as medical grade?

I don't know. I have spent a lot on skincare over the years and have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of it is an absolute con!

pumpkinyael · 13/09/2018 11:46

Appointment with a dermatologist for retinol and whatever else s/he would recommend for your specific anti ageing regime / skin type etc.

pumpkinyael · 13/09/2018 11:50

Well yes, but just slapping 'retinol' on the label doesn't actually mean anything does it? There are all sorts of different derivations of Vitamin A, retinoids etc all with different strengths and having 'retinol' on the label doesn't mean its actually effective in changing the structure of your skin.

Absolutely. Max amount is 0,3% in the European union without a prescription, I believe... The OP could order online from the US or go to a dermatologist (what I'd do).

And obviously wear SPF 30+ everyday.

cloudtree · 13/09/2018 12:03

Its incredibly difficult to navigate through the retinol maze without being an expert.

I have tazarotene 0.5% but only use it once a week. Then I also use a daily moisturiser containing a very low level of vitamin A .

cloudtree · 13/09/2018 12:03

Whihc is probably completely wrong

pumpkinyael · 13/09/2018 12:37

@cloudtree

I was told that consistency/building up tolerance is the most important thing.. So either start with a low dosage but use it frequently or start with a higher dosage but (probably) use it less frequently.

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