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Hair a mess...advice please!

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applepatch · 10/06/2018 12:02

Advice needed please, I'm at a loss to know what to do to fix my really damaged worn out hair. And sorry it's a long post I'm having a bit of a rant...

Hair has always been thick and very wavy but not nice Beachy waves, like frizzy unmanageable waves and kinks. I've straight cut fringe too as that suits my face best and have had that pretty much all my life. Few blonde highlights luckily only every 6 months as hair was so fair the regrowth wasn't noticeable. I have always blow dried and straightened my hair which was either bob or Just past shoulders. I would LOVE to have really long hair it's my dream and did a good job of growing it out it's bob...but...pregnancy made my hair go totally bonkers. Now it's coarse, dried out, frizzier and wavier than ever before and dark dark roots with some greys peeking through Hmm was taking me AGES to blow dry and straighten and with a fussy baby this was just not going to do. She's 2 and it's not got any better.

My problem is I tried to 'fix' it post pregnancy by getting very light highlights and got it layered a bit. Big mistake, the waves got worse and because the length went it stopped weighing down hair into manageable style. Then I tried different hairdresser who cut it shoulder length but it pinged up and not enough length to contain the frizz and chunky waves. She cut fringe into a horrific blunt mess which makes me look like Garth from Wayne's world. Then next visit I begged her to thin a bit to see if that would help but she went far too overboard so now it's still the Wayne's world look, it's like cotton wool all different hacked off bits and can't wear down as it's a layer of fly away frizz on top and damage underneath.

I'm getting married next winter and had wanted lovely long hair maybe with the help of some extensions to supplement my healthy lovely hair on the day. Now it looks like a birds nest. What the heck do I do??
Cut it off to a bob and start again?! (Nooooo) Options and advice please from those in the know

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MrsReacher85 · 10/06/2018 12:53

Your hair sounds a lot like mine! I have a great hairdresser who can handle it, and I would never leave him. Roughly where in the country are you? If you’re anywhere near me then I’m happy to recommend him!

applepatch · 10/06/2018 13:04

Glasgow? Guessing it's a long shot! ... how do you wear yours?

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MrsReacher85 · 10/06/2018 13:10

Unfortunately so! I’m a bit further south than that. Mine is just hitting my shoulders, no layers though. He spends a long time cutting into the ends and thinning it a bit once it’s dried. It grows very quickly but a good cut lasts longer I find.

I definitely think the key is a hairdresser who understands! I’ve had some really bad cuts from people who don’t get just how much hair I have, and it ends up in a triangle shape.

Fee6 · 10/06/2018 13:13

Look up yuko, very expensive but amazing results

applepatch · 10/06/2018 16:28

Looked at Yuko and seems brilliant, thanks. There's a few places doing it near me so I might change hairdressers again and hope for the best!

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nooddsocksforme · 10/06/2018 16:32

Rainbow room at bearsden - stylist there understood my thick “kinky” hair better than anyone else has

LapsedHumanist · 10/06/2018 17:07

Second mention for the Rainbow Room in Glasgow. Or the owner at Broughton Place Hair and Beauty in Edinburgh.

Mention channel cutting to thin the ends. Someone experienced will understand which direction/depth to make the channel cut, so that a particular wave turns in/out more or hangs straighter, rather than just thin it. It’s about day stributioj of the weight of the hair.

Generally, get an older, more experienced hairdresser if you can (40+). I don’t know if training has changed or if it just takes that long to build up the knowledge.

BUT also just seriously consider finding a way to pin your hair up to make it tidy day to day, and letting it grow. A lot of this is about the weight of your hair. I know my hair is very wavy /curly til it reaches just above shoulder length, then virtually overnight it’s past my collarbone- it just gets long and heavy enough to pull the curl out and extends itself that way. Your main goal is to hit that point as quick as you can. Which means no cuts really. And loads of planked, hair masks, oil disks in the meantime to maximise the condition.

LapsedHumanist · 10/06/2018 17:08

Olaplex not planked!

applepatch · 10/06/2018 17:39

Thanks for all replies. I had my hair cut at rainbow a couple of times but since going back to work part time I can't afford the prices really, it was 140+ for cut and colour so had to look elsewhere.

I'm just confused as to whether I should just let it be for some months or cut to shoulder length as it's just past that now. My goal is long hair but the constant colouring, straightening etc have taken their toll. Will the hacked off short stumpy bits underneath ever recover??

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applepatch · 10/06/2018 17:42

Lapsedhumanist this has been my initial game plan but I'm finding the wave so difficult to keep tidy plus with a straight fringe I'm just ready to do something drastic with my 'look'...which I'll then regret...Confused

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LuMarie · 10/06/2018 18:25

Hi there

My hair is currently trashed too, I'm going through the process of impatiently waiting for it to be better.

My damage is due to colour, I heavily highlight and blonde colour my natural brunette hair. Despite that, I usually have gorgeous condition, lower than bra strap long, thick smooth hair. Hairdressers have asked me how on earth I do it, it's good care but that's not the info you need right now.

I have however twice in fifteen years had a complete catastrophe with damage and ended up with massively broken damaged birds nest crazy, once because I was unwell and let my hair care rules slip for a while, most recently because I moved countries and three hairdressers messed up the colour, meaning it needed redone, which absolutely destroyed it. Broken, frizzy, have already had to chop a good twelve inches off it and it's still an embarrasing mess.

However I can tell you this. Yes it can get better and you plus a good hairdresser (you are important too, there's lots you can do!) can heal this and have is grow back and stay healthy.

  1. Heat, straighteners, bad. Bad bad bad. Try to absolutely limit these. I never use heat because I colour mine and hair can only take so much. Straighteners are notoriously bad even for hair that isn't coloured. You said your hair was frizzy but not curly. Have you seen a stylist and asked if they can teach you how to style your hair into a natural curl of wavy style? The right products like mouse, not brushing waves or curls and using hair dryer properly, or not at all, can turn frizz crazy into gorgeous curls or waves. I would ask about learning to do this, then let your hair be natural and give it a rest for a while.
  1. If you wear your hair up, only use a loose clip or a scrunch (they are back in fashion, yay!). A band for a pony tail will literally damage and break your hair, particularly if it's already fragile. I wore mine in a wound up top knot day and night the first time I trashed my hair and after three months it was so broken and trashed. It was gorgeous again within a year which surprised me given how messy it was, but now hair is only ever loosely up for the gym and I leave all the front parts free as they are more fragile.
  1. Hair whilst you sleep, first get a silk pillow case, they're not expensive and you can get them on amazon, they massively help with split ends, frizz and damage.
  1. Also think about how you wear your hair whilst you sleep, for me that means never putting in a loose top knot. For your hair type, ask a hairdresser how to avoid damage and keep it as smooth as possible.
  1. Chop off as much as you can bear now. Trust me, I feel your pain. Split ends travel up causing more breakage damage and frizz, so they have to go, even on layers, broken and mismatched places. If you don't, it just won't grow out healthy, it continues to feel like you're getting nowhere. So get rid of all split ends and as much damage as you can bear.
  1. Biotin! Now this is a good one and a new discovery for me after the most recent catastrophe. Biotin capsules are a supplement you can take that helps hair (and nails) grow healthy, stronger and more quickly in some cases. I've been taking it for about three months and I really notice a difference. It doesn't suddenly grow two inches in a month as I half hope, but I can see growth by my natural colour coming in and it's definitely a bit faster. Plus all my new hair since I started this is shiny silky perfect. It's a few inches of that then bird's nest, come on hair! I noticed by my nail varnish that my nails are growing more quickly too plus are stronger. You can buy it on amazon, it's not expensive.
  1. Coconut oil treatment. A fad that it turns out is real. I have always used deep conditioners and good products for my hair type so I didn't expect to see much difference, but wow, silky smooth difference! I don't sleep with it overnight as I tried it once and it didn't seem any different to just half an hour, but some people find overnight occasionally is helpful. You out the oil through your hair when it's dry, let it sit (with a warm towel is apparently popular, I just go for drip all over me), then wash out. Wow. Organ oil every time my hair is washed, before putting a brush or dryer near it, unbelievable difference, one of the things that kept my hair in fabulous condition and something I let slip just around the time it was destroyed the second time.

8.I don't have these, but what about the brazilian blow dry thingies? Meghan Markle style. I think they smooth out wavy, frizzy and even natural hair like Chic Ms Markle's into a straighter style and it lasts quite a while without doing damage. If the curls don't work out for you, that might help with smoother, avoiding straighteners and improving strength of hair. Also day to day, get the right type of shampoo and conditioner, plus deep conditioning treatments, for your hair. I stopped choosing the one I liked the smell of the most and changed to for my hair colour, I see a big difference if I change even for a couple of weeks.

My hairdresser when I lived near you was freaking incredible (town not city, twenty mins on the main intercity train, probably you can guess which town, send me a message if you'd like her name, fraction of price), she was the reason I was able to grow back completely broken destroyed coloured hair into gorgeous long silky healthy hair, even with the lightest possible highlights and colour all the way through it. I'm not sure how she is with your texture of hair but you could give her a call and describe what you're dealing with and get a feel for her based on her advice.

As I'm telling myself right now and I am believing albeit impatiently because I have experienced it before, yes you can absolutely massively improve your hair. I had a wrecked and chopped to one year gorgeous long smooth even and healthy, it's just constant care in some ways and constant leave it alone in others!

Good luck, again, I feel your pain. My instagram is going to be throw backs for at least the next year, that's how bad mine is:)

goose1964 · 10/06/2018 19:01

Curly girl method. It takes my Crystal Topps frizz nto corkscrew curls

For those of you youngsters you can see the glorious triangle here

www.google.co.uk/search?q=crystal+tipps+hair&oq=crysral+tipps&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l3.7560j0j8&client=tablet-android-lenovo&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=_FLzBp1hyUZacM:

LapsedHumanist · 10/06/2018 20:12

It’s so frustrating waiting for it to grow isn’t it. It’s like you have to sit on your hands and they’re to do something about it.

Sometimes a bit of distraction and diversion works. So thinks that have worked for me in the past to delay the trip for a new do are:

  1. Buying new hair accessories. From hair bands to sparkly grips. Even if I don’t use them that much, it makes me feel like I am doing something.
  2. Bold new make-up choice like a strong lip colour or statement eye liner
  3. Earrings. Someone I know is having a hard time with hair dye to pregnancy so is rocking some long swishy tassel earrings in either mustard, scarlet or teal (she’s got dark hair). They’re long enough to come down to her shoulders push her hair so you don’t see the ends.
  4. Some kind of snood/scarf/hat arrangement to hide the ends-easier in winter though. Maybe a Sun hat just now though?
LapsedHumanist · 10/06/2018 20:13

Not hair dye, hair due to pregnancy

LuMarie · 10/06/2018 20:24

@lapsedhumanist

Yeah I've been going for distractions too, hippy style hair scarfs, twists of sections with a clasp and the hair tucked under the rest in a stylish look but actually hiding the fact that the pinned section is half as long as it should be and thank you Meghan for the messy bun trend. I don't need to try to make a bun look messy or have hair loose around my face, that's just what my hair does at the moment!

LapsedHumanist · 10/06/2018 20:35

[http://m.asos.com/asos/asos-design-large-resin-triangle-hair-clip/prd/9125201?clr=white&SearchQuery=hair%20accessories&gridcolumn=1&gridrow=6&gridsize=2&pge=1&pgesize=72&totalstyles=296 Truangle clip]
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LapsedHumanist · 10/06/2018 20:37

Triangle clip
Cut out metal clip

applepatch · 11/06/2018 12:42

Thanks every one for the input, I've formulated my plan Smile
I'm doing a bit of what everyone has suggested so far:

  1. Leaving it the hell alone for a few months whilst loading up on vitamins/water etc and smothering once a week in deep repair masks and coconut oil. No drastic chop as I'll freak out
  2. No straightening, I'm going cold turkey. Easy enough as I barely have time to shave my legs these days let alone straightening my hair
  3. Find a couple of nice flattering up-dos in the meantime and master them
  4. Bite the bullet and change salon, I think I'll try rainbow rooms again as really liked it the twice I went I'll just need to budget accordingly! Plus I'll get the stylist to give me honest account of how much can be saved and repaired
  5. Look at changing style and colour, I'm fighting a losing battle with the blonde highlights and they're damaging my hair colouring every 10-12 weeks plus straightening

Feeling a bit more optimistic!

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Olddear · 11/06/2018 12:46

Ellen Conlin (?) in Hyndland gets good reviews but is £££.....but might be worth it. She used to do my hair when I went to Taylor Ferguson....long time ago when I was single and had hee haw else to spend my money on!!!!

Underparmummy · 11/06/2018 14:12

Patience, patience, patience. SO hard I know.

Redken all soft mask left on for as long as you can manage once a week.

Tie up, slides to keep it smooth off your face (I turn into Ken Dodds with not enough securing/a bad hat).

Yes, as per your point 4, accept that a good cut and colour involves remortgaging basically.

mintmagnummm · 11/06/2018 14:58

My hair WAS like this plus I have an extremely sensitive scalp so it's been a nightmare! My hair is by no means perfect now but it's definitely improved! I'm also getting married next year! So for me using a really good shampoo has helped, I've tried most of them and the best has been pureology strength cure shampoo. I then follow with a cheaper conditioner (I'm using hask from Superdrug for coloured hair) then I've recently been using bumble and bumble invisible oil primer (not the oil) it's in a big pump bottle, I spray lightly over freshly washed hair and brush through, it's been brilliant! Hope this helps you.

nooddsocksforme · 11/06/2018 18:13

I stopped highlighting my hair and couldn’t believe the difference in the condition . Although I used rainbow rooms my stylist would thin out my hair but would tell me not to get it cut while I was growing it so she saved me money in the long run - compared to where I was going before

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