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Face lift issues

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MoonChilli · 02/01/2018 12:39

Hello. Advice please. I use Boots No 7 serum and moisturisers for older skin. I'm 56. I lost three stone last year and ended up very wrinkled and had a face lift three weeks ago. Eyes, the lot.
The left eye is a disaster with a saggy bottom lid that will need further surgery. I got chemosis in both eyes. It is currently strapped up with steristrips and I feel a freak.
Firstly, has anyone else had this problem? Any advice?
Secondly, , since the Boots stuff didn't do much good - I've used it for about 10 years- what can be recommended now? I'm using silicone scar cream on the stitches. But my lovely new unwrinkled (as yet) skin needs 5* care as I don't want to ever go through this again.
I'm vegetarian and against animal testing.
Please be kind. I've really gone through it. Advice most welcome.

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lovemylover · 02/01/2018 17:18

moonchill I am so sorry you are going through this,
I had my eye bags done, quite a few years ago now,and the same thing happened to me, so I feel your pain and helplessness as to what to do about it, have you been back to the surgeon who did the op, I did was told to massage it, it seems a stock answer when anything like this happens.and of course made no difference
I sued and won compensation, but other surgeons were not keen to correct it,as it would mean having a skin graft
If you would like or prefer to PM me I will talk you through what I did
The surgeon I had was struck off, and it was all over the papers about the mess he had made of some of his patients
I would be interested to know who the surgeon was, as my daughter also has had a blepharoplasty, and hers were not as they should have been but not a disaster
I feel so sorry for how I know you must feel, as some people will just say unkind things like it being all for vanity, etc, but please don't let anyone upset you
Please do PM if you want
Re, the scars or stitches, I will give you the name of some cream I was recently told about, but just cant remember the name off hand, it is used for this very reason, [scars etc] so now used as a face cream, will look it up and post underneath

lovemylover · 02/01/2018 17:26

It is called Ialsuset, and is a Hylauronic acid,in cream or gel form, Amazon sell it, as it is normally quite expensice and has to come from France,it was designed to heal scars and works exceptionally well, so people also now use it as a face cream, in fact I have just sent for some,
Google it if you are interested, and see what is said about it
I hope you get some good advice from other posters

lovemylover · 02/01/2018 17:27

Sorry ,too many ss,its ialuset

MoonChilli · 02/01/2018 17:49

Thank you Lovemylover. That was a lovely reply.
I've seen my surgeon twice since and he is horrified by it. He says he can't understand why it is like it is. He has suggested putting a stitch in and various other things but can't do it until the swelling and chemosis has reduced. I'm seeing him again on Thursday night for more advice. He's been lovely about it but of course it's not his face.
I'll have a look anthe cream you suggest now. Thank you so much.

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MoonChilli · 02/01/2018 17:58

Lovemylover- I've just bought some Ialuset cream from Amazon. £14. I look forward to having it. It won't sort out my drooping eye but it may help all the scars around the eyes. I'll let you know!

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lovemylover · 02/01/2018 21:45

moonchill I hope you get it sorted, its awful when you pay good money for something you expect to make you feel better
What did the surgeon say to you after it was done, he must have realised it wasnt right, he will be lovely,he wont want to be sued,
Sorry if I am being cynical ,but I have been there
What explanation did he give you,
Mine wasn't stitched, except just after the op of course. but the stitches only stayed in for a week
Looking forward to using the cream, it was found to decrease wrinkles,of which I have a few now, more so around my mouth
What is chemosis by the way? ?

lovemylover · 02/01/2018 21:50

Forgot to say, I never had a skin graft,i wore dark glasses for ages
My affected eye took ages to look normal, and still looks a bit bigger ,and more wide open than my other one, but also because he didn't take enough off my unaffected upper lid, so that looks a bit droopy now, although people don't notice it much

wizzywig · 02/01/2018 21:52

No advice op but just that I hope you feel better soon

NotTheQueen · 02/01/2018 21:56

I’ve got no wisdom to share but just wanted to give you a hug. Women are judged on our appearance and I’m sure if you’ve made the decision to go through plastic surgery, it would have been a carefully thought out, researched decision, so the unfortunate and disappointing results will be distressing. I hope you do get it fixed so you can look in the mirror happy, confident and beaming with a smile.

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Cbaanymore123 · 02/01/2018 23:05

Vitamin e oil for the scars supersrug do the oil very cheap as own brand. It's fab.

lovemylover · 02/01/2018 23:49

My grand daughter has a scar from an accident she had a few years ago,she tried this, vit E oil. also bio oil neither made any difference

arousingcheer · 03/01/2018 04:33

Bless you, how awful. When my mum had hers her surgeon said to apply a dab of vitamin e (squeezed out of a capsule) and antibiotic ointment on the incisions (I believe in that order) with a cotton bud for about a week. She healed beautifully but apparently she has the kind of skin that heals well (I heard him explaining it to the nurse).
If your surgeon gave different instructions and you have complications I don't know if a different regimen would suit, but on balance it seems like a pretty benign thing to try if you were so inclined.
Is it possible the eye irritation is coming from the scar cream? I can't use anything with silicone near my eyes, it makes them sting. When I was helping my mum through her recovery I was told by the surgeon that I was using too much ointment around her eyes and it could cause them to be irritated, so I scaled it back to a tiny dab.
Fingers crossed OP, this is a tense time and everything will look absolutely awful (swollen, bloody, bruised etc) so try not to be too worried. One of my mum's friends had an eye lift and had to have one of her eyes redone as it wasn't quite right. It worked out. You will have options.

MoonChilli · 03/01/2018 11:52

@lovemylover chemosis is where the concunctiva in your eye becomes inflamed. Mine ended up like frogs spawn. It can happen in bleph surgery especially lower lid. Which I had.
He said he had never seen anything like it. It was the worst case of chemosis he'd seen. I was given Viscotears to help with the dry eye- I never had that before- which has helped it settle. Well either it has or time has.
I'm going back tomorrow to see if it has settled enough to be able to do anything. Watch this space.

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MoonChilli · 03/01/2018 12:01

@NotTheQueen thank you for your lovely message. It was very kind and I actually welled up reading it.
Yes, I did as much research as possible. It's really not easy to find the right person. It's not like buying windows for instance. In that case You can ask round and go and look at jobs other people have had done. You can Go ahead if you like it and walk away if not. People who have had facelifts - if they're lIke me- are trying to keep on the low about it. No one wants to say 'oh have a look at me and use....... '. so it's really hard. I don't want to appear privileged and second to a kardashian.
So I chose a private hospital I've used before. I had two consults. We thought the chap was lovely and my dr said she'd heard no bad stories. He is also a specialist in his nhs field so I thought all was well. And yes it was expensive and I feel sorry for my DH.
I'm back there tomorrow. I hope he feels the swelling has gone down enough to be able to do something. I can't go out. I have steristrips on my eye to help keep the lower lid up. It's dreadful. Wish me luck. X

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MoonChilli · 03/01/2018 12:06

@Arousingcheer thank you for your helpful message too. I'm glad your mum feels better.
I will ask about the E45 cream- I'm using Reme Scar and Dermatix to see which I prefer but I can't get either near my eyes as the silicone makes them sting like the very devil. I just want to be able to use something to help the redness in the scars under my lower eyelashes and also the swollen scar tissue as the sides of both eyes. I've put Vaseline on this morning as I just can't go out to buy anything. I think it will keep the scars soft but I doubt it will help the redness. Let's see what the surgeon says tomorrow.
Thank you.

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Bluebell66 · 03/01/2018 12:06

Bless you Moon - I really hope things improve, it is early days. The Defilift range by Gatineau is very good but you would need to check on their animal testing policy. Hang on in there and good luck.

arousingcheer · 03/01/2018 16:38

Sorry OP, just wanted to say there were two different things to apply (not E45):

  1. the oil from a capsule of vitamin e and
  2. antibacterial ointment.

The ointment my mum used was a bacitracin/neosporin type of greasy unfragranced ointment available otc in the US. Not sure what the UK equivalent is as I can only think of creamy products which are sometimes quite perfumed. Your surgeon might be able to steer you.

Vaseline as you say will keep the incisions moist but ideally you'll have some antibacterial componant as well (and a pot of Vaseline that's been hanging around for a while may not be ideally clean).

MoonChilli · 24/01/2018 12:07

I'm going for my revision tonight. Just thought I'd let you know.
It's going to be under a local anaesthetic so fingers crossed it sorts it.
I've been using Ialuset under my usual moisturiser. Can't say I've touched any miracles though so I'm still looking for a marvellous serum and moisturiser- if better than Boots Lift and Luminate for old biddies!!

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ToftheB · 24/01/2018 13:49

I don’t have any cream recommendations, but I just want to send you my very best wishes for your revision. I really hope it goes well and that you’re happy with the final result.

MoonChilli · 24/01/2018 14:59

Thank you!! Xx

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