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Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux

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TossDaily · 02/12/2017 21:33

New thread for those of us who would like to let a little je ne sais quoi into our lives...

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botemp · 21/12/2017 23:04

There isn't necessarily a need to be extremely strict about the chosen tones, matching undertones in related colours can be just as effective, especially when layering.

Again the accessories, though not vividly visible, become essential in tying the look together. Not only in colour, but also in materiality. Grey seems the most predictable and safe of the lot but that only makes it more challenging and it's where materiality comes into play, mixing various types of wool weaves to knits, shiny slim leather belts to offset that lustre of pony skin in the bag.

The choices are subtle, yet decisive down to where the hues are placed on the body and interacts with the hair colour, either cohesively as part of the colour scheme or not, most elegantly seen in the last picture. The subtle gradation of colour upwards brings a lightness to such volume of fabric and allows for a focus to the crowning glory that is that stunning shade of silver hair.

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Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
TheGrumpySquirrel · 21/12/2017 23:15

Ahh the greys are my absolute fave. My entire wardrobe is pretty much black and grey!

Bloomed · 21/12/2017 23:37

I often wear different tones of grey. Love the green there too. Would never think of it.

boldlygoingsomewhere · 22/12/2017 06:19

I do this quite often. Usually with grey but I have tried it with green (didn't work as well as your picture as the greens were too different) and blues. I'm working up the courage to try it with purples...

LazyDailyMailJournos · 22/12/2017 06:21

I love grey, it's one of my favourite colours. It also works really well for me because I have grey-blue eyes.

octonaught · 22/12/2017 06:51

Posted on wrong thread
Haven't read both threads, but after 10 years living here:
You only eat at 8am, 12 noon, 16h (something small) 20h. That's it, no snacks. The French eat very good quality food, sitting at a table. People never eat in the street. Eat seasonally

Underwear, always matches, I see this at the gymn. (Changing room).
Full make up & hair for gym. Even my trainer, a man wears lovely aftershave. Oh yes, perfume, always.

Hair, ages in salon to look natural. Balayage, not foils.

Regular, good quality facials & skin care products.
Going to the pharmacy is a religion. I buy my shampoo from there now, not the supermarket. About 8 euros a pop.

Rinse everything in vinegar. Slosh white vinegar inside your dishwasher before putting it one. Your glasses & cutlery will sparkle.

LazyDailyMailJournos · 22/12/2017 07:12

I think the 'no snacking' thing is very sensible. As someone who is in the middle of trying to lose a significant amount of weight, I can say that IME stopping snacking has been the biggest game-changer.

Wish we had some of the French-style pharmacies over here.

ProperLavs · 22/12/2017 08:01

There was a lovely woman at my work who is noe retired. She always used to wear the same colours together, somehow it didn't work for her. I must wrack my brains and try and think why not.

You see this is the thing- you mention the importance of pulling things together with accessories- I have only got one bag.
I rather suspect the bag situation isn't helping to pull my outfits together.

quirkychick · 22/12/2017 08:28

Proper it might not have worked because she needed more contrast/brighter colours. I love wearing toning colours, yesterday shades of navy and an aubergine purple coat, but although I look good in quite bright colours too much contrast is too much for me, so the toning colours softens the colour a bit (if it's bright).

octonaught eating good quality food and not snacking sounds very sensible, helps keep you healthy and look good too, I should think. We seem to have lost the no snacking thing here.

Mamia15 · 22/12/2017 08:38

I agree that she might have needed brighter colours or more contrast - I am a Winter and need to have some contrast if I am wearing all black/grey/navy which I often do, but that is easily done by wearing a bright lipstick/nail polish or accessories.

quirkychick · 22/12/2017 09:43

Mamia I am a summer, which is why I like the toning colours! I am a summer that can wear quite bright colours but not too much, so I wear lots of greys (with some black), navy, white and mix with several berry shades or forest/blue greens.

botemp · 22/12/2017 13:09

The Paris vintage scene is still alive and kicking, fortunately. Forgot which road it is but there's one street where every other store is part of the same vintage store, one store is just women's coats, the next trousers, etc. It's bliss! But I suppose the Paris scene was always more geared towards designer labels and some really collectible vintage, especially on the antique markets. There's less of a charity shop system there, though there is an online version of that which delivers internationally, will have to look up what it's called again. I did see some new 'hipper' by the kilo shops popping up there and in Antwerp in younger geared areas too.

Lazy, Easyparapharmacie.com is your friend there. It's almost as good as having a parapharmacie on your doorstep. Personally, prefer Powersante but they don't do free shipping over a certain amount to the UK (and only the UK for whatever reason) like EPP does.

The vinegar for everything is true indeed, but it's mostly because the water in most of France is really hard. It's the same here, though varies per region, but I also use apple cider vinegar to rinse my hair with as a final step, it's great for shiny hair and to stop your hair looking like you tongued an electrical socket.

I think part of it is no snacking, but the no snacking to me falls more into the general philosophy of having a certain respect and gratitude towards the food you eat (one that is mirrored in the clothes as well in a sense). So you buy the best you can afford, you sit down for it and not stuff it hastily down on the street with little thought, I also feel there's no constant checks and balances system with withholding then to have rewards in excess. Restraint seems the default position (rather than a temporary measure to lose weight, the focus is on not gaining) so a rare patisserie isn't seen as detrimental and enjoyed for what it is but not made out to be a reward for otherwise good behaviour either.

Floisme · 22/12/2017 13:53

That's interesting about the Paris vintage scene. I've not been there for some time but can feel another trip calling all of a sudden! I was in Rome a couple of years ago and they still have / had a 'vintage' street too, right in the centre close to the Pantheon (as I recall).

I'm quite fond of a 'weigh n' pay' sale although they're at least 99% crap and I do wonder who's behind them. In the UK there seem to be a couple of companies who tour the country so it's probably yet another way in which independent local traders are being squeezed out. Nevertheless I've only once come away empty handed. I think they must be promoting them hard with students as the last few I've been to have been noticeably busier. But we're normally after different things - they mostly want the flimsy, floaty frocks whereas I'm hunting tweed, silk shirts and old-school velvet so we co-exist quite happily.

ilovecherries · 22/12/2017 14:03

Oh, I love today's ideas. I like grey very much. I'm still sadly waiting for my rouge geisha to arrive. Paying for next day delivery on Monday clearly didn't mean next day, at this rate it means next year :(

quirkychick · 22/12/2017 14:33

Floisme tweed, silk shirts and old-school velvet sound lush to me. Smile

On that note I've got my maxmara herringbone trousers on, I'm not sure I can do high-waisted, I'm quite short-waisted, so the waistband ends up under my ribcage if I sit down. However, they have got buckles (?) to adjust the waist, so I've made them less slouchy than they were, paired with uniqlo extra fine merino in navy and, not white, but very pale grey top peeking out underneath. The fitted top, I hope, stops it looking too masculine.

In best french fashion, I have been to the organic butcher's to pick up our Christmas order. I do like the idea of eating and enjoying good food. In a similar vein, I remember reading an article by an American who moved to Italy, maybe Naples, and said how much weight she'd lost and how it stopped her disordered eating as food was very much enjoyed but you couldn't really eat rubbish or snack, for example, the cafés didn't sell pastries (which were only for breakfast) in the afternoon as they would be stale.

Floisme · 22/12/2017 14:48

I love the sound of the Maxmara trews. I've never done the measurements but I would say my waist is fairly high (is that short waisted? Can never remember). I find high waisted narrow legs or flares give me a pot belly and double the size of my arse but I love high waisted wide legs - the kind that hang straight from the arse and bypass the thighs completely. They instantly make my legs look longer and feel very glamorous.

quirkychick · 22/12/2017 15:49

Flo they were a complete charity shop bargain, £7, I think Grin. I usually wear them a bit low and slouchy, but I've adjusted them a bit.

TheGrumpySquirrel · 22/12/2017 15:56

Quirky your outfit sounds lush! Pic?

botemp · 22/12/2017 16:00

You're reminding me I have an olive tweed skirt from Max Mara with a striking silk flair thingy to it that was my mother's. Terrible description but it's lovely, I need to send it to the cleaners to sell, although may just wing it an steam it myself instead (it's clean, just been stored flat).

What I have noticed is that there's less of a pressure to eat collectively with the French. At a family table, of course, it's impolite not to eat but people aren't set out to stuff themselves and anyone not participating in that being singled out. Just because one person wants a starter or dessert, everyone has to get one, that type of thing. Though that may be a Dutch thing, we're very big on not being seen to be 'abnormal'. The French are very confused by voluntary vegetarianism though, less so in recent years thankfully.

botemp · 22/12/2017 18:39

Posting early as not sure what time I'll be home tonight and possibly forget about it.

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Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
botemp · 22/12/2017 18:40

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L’Attitude

It’s bandied about a lot, ‘Confidence is key’ but what does it really mean when we discuss personal style? The Parisians, noticeably, seem to favour a personal style that they know will last over the latest trend or fashion. The irony being that those that do their utmost to be en vogue in the eyes of a Parisian become the very opposite. This attitude can easily be written off as snobbish but there’s more to it, style is perceived as the extension of the self as a form of expression where fashion is rather the field of experimentation that acts as the breeding ground, but it’s temporary, it dates and in turn it can make you feel passe. Personal style is about standing the test of time but more crucially anyone can wear fashion but it tells us absolutely nothing about that person beyond being an avid follower of fashion, and in some eyes being unoriginal can be quite damning. Personal style tells us something about that person, their outlook on life and the life they’ve lived, they’re not an unwritten slate but a walking piece of history and it’s all grounded by attitude.

From left to right in their younger years: Isabelle Huppert, Francoise Hardy and Caroline de Maigret

botemp · 22/12/2017 18:40

I personally never had style icons to look up to in terms of what they wear, the women (and the odd man) that inspire my approach to style have a few things in common, they’re usually much older but not always, their tastes are all over the place, but what brings them together is their attitude to style. I have no desire to dress exactly like them, I usually don’t look like them or have their body shape, but their way of approaching how they dress themselves is where their status is earned for me. They own their own look, and not in the material sense.

From left to right: more recent CdM, young FH, IH in her 50s

Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
botemp · 22/12/2017 18:40

Age seems to affect it here and there but there is a constant and it seems to be there from youth. Another thing that’s a common denominator is that usually, these aren’t traditionally beautiful women, they’ve earned their stripes in other arenas, their beauty is usually the least interesting thing about them. Again, it’s that attitude.

From left to right: FH recent, IH recent, CdM recent

Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
Les Parisiennes de Mamansnet - Thread part deux
botemp · 22/12/2017 18:41

As an added little visual, though not French, stylish nonetheless, Joan Didion (right) shows quite effortlessly what it is to wear one's own style, where the stylised image inspired by it so accurately displays how devoid it is of that attitude. You don't get there without a bit of daring or playing it safe, you may end up looking like a tit now and then but at least you'll be an interesting looking tit Halo

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LazyDailyMailJournos · 22/12/2017 19:05

Oh Bo what are you trying to do to my wallet?! I have just lost myself down the easy parapharmacie hole. Can't afford to shop too much at the moment but thought I would fill a basket just for fun. You don't want to know the total spend I had theoretically racked up!!

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