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botemp · 12/10/2017 21:01

Thread 1 Thread 2 Thread 3 Thread 4 Thread 5 Thread 6 Thread 7 Thread 8 Thread 9

I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. In order to make use of the below form and join in I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

NEWish since previous threads:

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

NEW since the last thread:

A Damaged Skin Barrier - Now What?

For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

OCTOBER 2017: It's our snailaversary Cake! Our baby ripe toddler skins are about a year old now, or rather getting together on these threads about a year ago. I can't believe we're all still finding things to chat on about between the hair disasters. I know I always encourage a bit of catching up at the beginning of the new thread with how everyone's skin been progressing over the last couple of weeks/months but now I'm demanding more Blush and would really like to hear how everyone is doing a year on now, or however long you've been with us. Basically, pledge your undying love for these threads Grin

NB: I've removed the form from the OP as I felt there really wasn't a need for it anymore. I think I've also answered enough of those forms in their previous incarnation for a lifetime so it may just be a selfish decision but it's been made Halo

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BagelGoesWalking · 30/10/2017 23:51

This Moringa Cleansing Balm gets very good reviews.

Tsmummy08 · 31/10/2017 09:53

Eyebrows I'm not sure there's a product that will get rid of pigmentation in 4 weeks. You may see some reduction using a vitamin C serum but I'm a long term vit C user and still have dark patches... I would steer away from the EH balm if you have oily balm, it's quite heavy - have you thought about a cleansing oil instead? DHC or the Body Shop do decent ones.

The Slinceuticals Vit C E Ferulic is great but expensive, although as you've got your wedding coming up I can understand why you want to splash out! Otherwise are you having your makeup done professionally? If so, your MUA should be able to cover up uneven skin tone on the day.

Others on here like one of The Ordinary's Vit Cs (23% or 30%) I like Active Formulas and have tried Timeless from the USA and am currently trialling another US one but that won't be much help I'm afraid. Maybe someone else will have another recommendation... as I've said though, not sure anything will work in a few weeks and makeup will help disguise things!

Freetodowhatiwant · 31/10/2017 09:53

Hi all,

I’ve been here before and done a lot of research myself and my skin is really good right now, thanks in significant part to the thread and docs you’ve created. I’m wondering if you wouldn’t mind helping me update my routine? My main issue was hyperpigmentation and that has reduced considerably and my skin is quite clear-looking now. I guess the other things are wrinkles (forehead and eyes) and general elasticity. Although generally I have good skin I’m 43 and have spent a lot of time in the sun. I now need a new serum/treatment and also would like to explore going further with retinoid. Basically I need to pimp my routine and now is a good time to do it as I have run out of a few things.

Current routine

AM
Cleanse – currently Caudalie cream cleanser
The Ordinary Caffeine 5% - brilliant, has got rid of my puffy eyes
Boots number 7 serum (all I could get my hands on at airport recently)
Neal’s Yard Frankincense intense lift – love this and can use both day and night
LRP Anthelios factor 50. I don’t have oily skin so quite happy with the glow it gives.

PM
Cleanse – Clinique TTDO balm – love this
Cleanse 2 – currently Caudalie cream cleanser
Biologique Recherche PIGM 400 (love this, think it makes a real difference. Started off on the V)
The Ordinary retinoid 2% - but would like to step up the retinoid
Boots number 7 serum – as above, need a new serum
Neal’s Yard Frankincense intense lift as per AM

Things I have tried:

Pixi Glow Tonic –worked well but now moved onto Biologique Recherche.
Nip and Fab Glycolic pads – used over the summer when ran out of above but thought above much better.
The Ordinary Buffet – didn’t notice any discernable difference
The Ordinary 23% Vitamin C. No major difference but my hyperpigmentation is definitely reduced and I liked it for some reason so would get again, just unsure when to use it. Or happy to try another Vit C product.
Hylamide (sp?) didn’t notice much difference
Nu Skin Celltrex Q10 complete. I know, it’s a MLM but my friend sells it (and is struggling of course) and I wanted to help her out, plus I was abroad over the summer and she had it handy. I actually felt this was quite good despite not wanting to.
Nu Skin Tru Face Line Corrector – didn’t notice any difference or ‘line correction’.

A quick recommendation which isn’t quite skincare but a month or so ago I started to use an eyelash serum after my mum doubled the length of her eyelashes using one. I now look like I am wearing falsies ☺ We used Nano Lash but I’ve heard other people say good things about other brands.

Thanks so much in advance! Any suggestions would be great.

Tsmummy08 · 31/10/2017 09:55

Another pic of more US purchases, no shelf porn though!

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Pupsiecola · 31/10/2017 10:30

Have you seen this thread?!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/3052917-Swears-By

MustBeThin · 31/10/2017 10:42

Hello all! Just popping back in to update! I used the Lancome Genifique Sensitive for a week and got another weeks sample but stopped after the first week. The first 5 days or so my skin was really good when I woke up in the morning but perhaps it was because I was on my pill break because after the first 5 days my morning skin was pretty much back to my normal pink flush when I woke up. I also think that it might have made my skin a little dryer after the first 5 days. Hmm

Anyway another strange thing I've noticed and I'm not sure if it's related to the lancome I had previously used or not. I've noticed for the last 4-5 days that the texture of my forehead is really smooth, I had a few of those little flesh coloured bumps on it before, not hard ones and they weren't noticeable if I didn't have makeup on but they were there. They seem to have pretty much disappeared and I've changed nothing else in my skin care. I stopped using the Genifique the Friday before last but they were still there then. Hmm the only other thing that's changed is the fact that I've not had any diet ginger pepsi for over a week. Could diet pepsi really cause bumpy skin Confused I usually drink 4-5 cans per wk but I've not had any and funnily enough I was on holiday in the UK in September and drank way more diet pepsi/coke than usual and my skin texture was a lot worse than normal and settled down a lot after I came back but never got better completely. I dont know, perhaps it's a coincidence but I'm going to keep away from diet drinks and see if it comes back.

I also put Soolantra on last night 😑 it's a prescribed cream for rosacea and I've been holding off using it because both times I've tried it so for it's turned my skin to shit within a couple of days. Even though it's base is supposed to be Cetaphil it seems too drying for my skin so the derm reckons I should use it once a week to minimise a reaction and build it up from there if possible.

ohgoonthenjustonemore · 31/10/2017 11:30

Tsmummy now that my love affair with all things TO is completely over I feel that I am being drawn to DE ! I will be really interested to hear your thoughts on your purchases. I did buy a Firma C sample off EBay but it was already totally oxidised and useless so the seller took it back.

botemp · 31/10/2017 11:44

Hi all, apols for the prolonged absence. Thanks for the flowers, Enid, hope your cold has cleared up now. It wasn't a physcial thing, I knew exactly what triggered the nightmares and the only way of avoiding that would be to become a recluse. They went away during the weekend away but I'm still suffering from broken up nights, so minor improvement at least. When I peeked back in on the S&B boards after the weekend away it seemed to have turned into the worst of AIBU (not this thread) and I just lacked the energy to deal with it, so I took a voluntary step away for MN as a result. Hope there were no major emergencies and I'll do a quick catchup now for the essential stuff that's popped up and gone unanswered.

bannivani, do you have a link to that radio show? I have to say as great as getting into skin care to help improve mental health can be for some, the more constant banging on about it (especially on blogs, and then other media reporting on blogs) that it's very much in danger of becoming a simplified narrative of 'my 10 step skincare routine cured my depression' for purposes of clickbait, which is worrying especially as this equation of bad skin=low self-esteem speaks to the very young.

Bagel, whilst a Dr. Jart is very well liked I think you have to be quite choosy with what you buy. For example, the liquid may be a better fit for oily-combo than the cream, etc. I also think as exciting as K-Beauty can be it suffers many of the same trappings as TO, it's low price point suddenly makes it revelationary for those who never could or wanted to afford higher end skincare. Great takeaways from Asian Beauty are the obsession with hydration and sunscreen, the vast amount of products only really have a leading edge in some place but as a whole it is just as filled with rubbish and non-performing skincare as any other region. My chief annoyance with it is the current batch of overhyped products are coming in very expensive, exceeding western prices but everyone seems to still be riding the novelty wave and hoarding as much as they can as a result.

@Thedarklady, KP is very complex to treat. Age plays into it a lot (it becomes significantly less over time), hairfollicle development, skin cell turnover, etc. The treatment success with different ingredients differs greatly. In the general they are:

High percentage AHA (usually Lactic Acid, but Glycolic can sometimes be effective too but you really need something over the 15% range, 30% even)
10% BHA
high % BHA with high % Urea
high% AHA with high % Urea
high % Retinol (most likely by prescription though some have success with Retinol body lotion)
Physical Exfoliation
Avoiding heavy clogging moisturisers, focusing on hydration instead.
Non-clogging SPF when exposed to sunlight.

By the sound of it, you have one or more version of all of these but you're using them all at once which pretty much renders them useless. Go one at a time and see what your skin responds to best and move from there.

Your best bet is Calmurid cream which is a Urea and Lactic Acid cream (since LA has given you the best results so far). It's available OTC here, the version with Hydrocortisone requires a prescription.

It's also worth looking at your hair removal methods, if the hairs are having trouble breaking through the surface of the skin this will contribute to the KP as it's the hair follicles that fill up with 'debris' creating all those little bumps, so a disordered growth cycle of the hair follicle may be at play, especially in an area like the thighs. In that sense it may be worthwile pursuing permanant laser hair removal (not IPL) to tackle the KP.

Pupsie, either Dr. Bronners (I throw it in some soapy warm water overnight) or for a deep clean I use two parts olive oil to one part fairy liquid on a dampened BB and have a good old squeeze before rinsing it all out.

miffy2, I think that Nivea is a bit of false advertising. It contains ascorbic acid in a cream. You want L-AA in an hydrous or silicone/suspension base for it to actually be active, I'm no formulator but I imagine all it does is lower the pH of the cream slightly Confused

bani, that Cos story confirms the horrible sinking feeling I had not long ago. I had found the perfect 100% silk 40s style fitted (I know, shocker Cos) trousers in the sale only to find I had about 4 inches to spare in the waist. Way too much to even attempt to take in and still hold up the integrity of the design, it forced me to resign to the fact that Cos is no longer for me if even the fitted stuff (which used to be TTS) isn't fitting in the smallest size. Just get the jeans already, clearly, the size labels are now up for interpretation and we should just wear whatever.

user that Vitamin C serum contains SAP rather than L-AA, it's not really a highly supported form of Vit C, beyond being good for those with active acne.

Enid, I think supplements are really difficult as they're always spoken of as one and the same whilst Omega 3s can come from a variety of sources. The 'trusted' brands are really expensive and most of the time we can barely discern if it's really doing something in isolation. I also know a lot of people who have discovered allergies to very rare things that only seem to be in supplements.

Milford, cloud10 (based in Ireland I think, but deliver everywhere) seem to have quite a good stock of TO at the moment including the Vit C 23%. Barring that, I did mention previously a new Vit C had caught my attention but I'd forgotten by whom, but have looked it up since. Vichy has a new one with just 11 ingredients, 15% L-AA based, tiny bottle (to prevent oxidisation I assume). Similar to SC somewhat and they're both owned by L'Oreal so could have some transfer of research going on there. Dinky little bottle costs around 20 euros here, strangely more expensive at EPP but I'm expecting the price will come down. The only issue with it is the presence of Alcohol Den. quite high up in the INCI. IIRC the old SC formula also had AD in it, so it sort of looks like the previous incarnation of SC without the ferulic. Price per ml it roughly comes out as half the price of SC (putting it on par with SC samples on ebay excl. import taxes) but the small size does make it enticing to try the more OG versions of Vit C serums like SC without committing as heavily financially. Still very pleased with my SC at the moment, I actually only use it every other day as it doesn't feel like I need it more than that, never had that with a Vit C serum before.

I can't tolerate a synthetic brush on my skin either, mint. Far too aggravating. I've always been under the impression that a brush like the RT one gives a slightly more full coverage look, filling pores more effectively whilst a BB gives a sheerer finish overall. Am I making this up or is that actually a thing?

I think we should all out ourselves and hand out little bottles of sunscreen to the trick or treaters Halloween Grin Annoyingly we have both Halloween and a more Dutch traditional version on St. Martin's day on the 11tht of November (where they have to sing traditional songs in exchange for candy). A lot ignore one over the other but it seems to have become quite the norm to do both now.

eyebrowseyebrows, in all honesty, 4 weeks is the point at which I wouldn't do anything new in fear of a bad reaction not remedying itself in time. Realistically, pigmentation and sun damage takes a very long amount of time (unless it's very recent and therefore not deep).

Vitamin C is worth trying as this gives a nice glow quite quickly but it won't tackle pigmentation and sun damage in that time. There is the possibility of getting a Vit C facial in a cosmetic dermatologist's office, which is more intense. Laser is another avenue to consider but so close to the date makes it risky.

I've noticed you don't have an SPF in your routine currently, I'd really be focusing on that for now.

Wrt EH balm, it's nice but very irritating to some. It's also extremely expensive, it's mostly the scent and the bit of comfort it adds to the cleansing experience than that it's an absolutely outstanding cleanser which warrants that kind of price tag. Save your money for the stuff that actually stays on your face. Moringa itself isn't much of a special ingredient, just ignore the CH hype, including that cleanser of hers. I'm not a massive fan of CH, she has her place but I think for someone new to skincare her advice is far too contradictory, confusing, and overwhelming to be really helpful. In the general people end up with far too many products and no clue what to do with them after a CH binge.

Free, I think the transition from TO 2% to 5% isn't a difficult one. I do have to say I've noticed it being a bit more effective but still underperforming to what I've used before. Don't know if you're looking into going down the prescription route or something more high end. I have the Medik8 Retinoate on my to try next list but am still waiting out a decent offer on it. If the Vit C was working for you, I'd definitely say to continue on with it. It's the most rewarding ingredient integration in a routine IME but that may very well be specific to me, but I've noticed many others on this thread are always very happy with the Vit C glow.

In terms of serum, what are you looking for specifically?

Must, there's definitely a correlation between high sugar diets and shitty skin, and AFAIK the replacement sugars in diet sodas aren't treated any different by the body. Not sure what implications for rosacea are, that mostly seems to revolve around wine, exercise, spicy foods, etc.

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MustBeThin · 31/10/2017 12:05

Thanks Bo my flushing and whatnot is pretty much the same whether I drink coke or not Sad my rosacea is mostly on my cheeks and nose (touch wood) but these flesh coloured bumps were on my forehead. Overall my flushing is a lot better than it used to be because I'm learning to get used to it, the worrying about it always made it worse. I just wake up a little pink most mornings and my nose flushes more than my cheeks now, my nose is always freezing cold so hot drinks/food can trigger my nose flush because of the heat but it doesn't happen every time I eat or drink. My cheeks mostly flush if I get anxious that is a terrible trigger for me, my derm said it's something about having a sensitive nervous system. It's pretty shit, my nose didn't flush at all until October last year Sad I got really upset one time and cried, my nose went pink as it always does when I cry but it went warm too and that was my first ever nose flush. That obviously weakened the blood vessels and now it happens often.

Ollivander84 · 31/10/2017 12:16

Eyebrow update. They're itchy! Grin
Skin on chin has gone crazy again, but probably premenstrual

botemp · 31/10/2017 12:57

Pupsie, do you mind giving a bit of a follow up on the rosacea related vein procedure (sorry, forgot the name) you had a few weeks ago? Think it might be helpful for posters like Must.

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miffy2 · 31/10/2017 13:13

Thank, Bo, I reckoned it was too good to be true! Anyway I will have my DE kit with me on Friday of next week so this will do until then.

I am working on my monthly updates and should upload later on today all going well.

Tsmummy great haul! I am looking at the photo and nodding away as I either have, or will soon have, all of those things! I am trying the small tube of differin now that I have finished my last TO 2%, the DE kit is on its way to me (great value isn't it?!) and I love the Sol de Janeiro cream, the IT Cosmetics CC and Maybelline mascaras are staples...need I go on LOL.

Ollivander84 · 31/10/2017 13:18

Here's my current brow look. Scabby Grin dry and itchy. Still can't get them wet or get anything on them and they go a bit patchy when they're healing

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Tsmummy08 · 31/10/2017 13:49

Miffy I wish Maybelline would sell the Full n Soft over here but Target only had them tucked away so perhaps they are discontinuing it? I've never tried the Sol de Janeiro but I'm a sucker for yummy smelling body creams - I'm under no illusion it's going to improve the look of the extra fat that's appeared on my thighs in the last two weeks! Blush

The DE vit C seems very nice so far, no stinging, a serum-like texture, but the Umbra SPF 30 is a bust - I tried it yesterday, it's very oily even for me with dry skin and I woke up with several (6 ish) spots, which is highly unusual. So I've assigned it to my "workout" SPFs - they stay on for an hour then get washed off.

As for the Differin, I tolerate Retin-A reasonably well so will wait until that's finished and try it then - my skin doesn't like Retin-A when there's strong sunlight exposure, even with repeated SPF 50, wearing a hat etc, so Differin might be a better summer option (or not, we shall see next year).

mintmagnummm · 31/10/2017 15:56

Hi bo I was wondering where u were BrewCake

BagelGoesWalking · 31/10/2017 16:14

Thanks for your message, Bo. You’re absolutely right, of course. No reason why their products are necessarily better, although some of the controls on ingredients seem stricter.

I’m not aiming for anywhere near “perfect skin”. I’d just like to feel a bit more comfortable. I have such problems with it: sensitive, eczema, reactive etc. that it would just be nice to find a couple of products that are beneficial. I’ve just bought a sample size duo of the Dr Jart so not spending big bucks.

userallusedup · 31/10/2017 18:45

Hi Bo lovely to see you, I tend to just have this thread open so don’t see the rest of S&B, though I’ll have a quick nosey round at the other skincare and makeup related threads sometimes and I do read AIBU from time to time - am alternatively Shock Hmm and Grin or sometimes all three at the same time.

I think I might go with the Vit C TSmummy mentioned from Active Formulas, I’d like to try drunk elephant or SC but can’t find any samples or small sizes, are those ranges sold in any stores outside of US or London does anyone know?

TSmummy I love IT cosmetics CC cream, qvc sell it and it’s not a bad price if you want to repurchase but can’t get back to the US Smile I’m liking differin too though it’s fairly new in my line up so no major results, but I’m tolerating it better than TO ret 1%.

Olli the brows still look good to me!

mintmagnummm · 01/11/2017 07:26

Does anyone else’s skin feel very dehydrated at the mo? Mine looks like paper on the surface if you get what I mean by that?

EnidButton · 01/11/2017 15:11

Can't remember the monthly round up format but this is what I've bought etc this month.

Repurchased regulars:
La Roche Posay toleriane fluide
LRP toleriane dermo cleanser
LRP Cicaplast baume b5
Avene thermale water spray
Kiehl's avocado eye cream
Rapidbrow and Rapidlash
Eucerin 10% body lotion
Aveeno skin relief.
^ All my basic routine products, all doing exactly what I want them to do.

Still using and will repurchase:
Vichy thermal serum.
Vichy clay mask (grey one)
^ so having two products specifically for my nose is ridiculous but the serum has stopped the annoying flakiness I always used to get there and the mask helps clear the SFs. So no more makeup getting stuck and liking terrible.
I bought the serum on an offer a long time ago so have a full bottle waiting already. As I only use a minuscule amount it will last forever.
Mask is a 15ml sample pot, also lasting ages.

Elemis Pro-radiance illuminating balm
^nice on cheeks under make up. Don't use everyday but does add a glow.

Lush Big shampoo and Lush American Cream conditioner.
^ Love the shampoo. Gives very very clean and shiny roots, adds body. Strips the hell out of the ends so heaps of conditioner is needed.
American Cream is good for days when I want to have texture in my ends and to keep a lot of volume. Hair feels light and I really love the scent. It's not good if you want silky smooth hair so I use other ones for that on different days.

New purchases:
Lush Twilight bath bomb
Lush sleepy lotion
^ really love the smell of these. Lotion is actually a very good moisturiser but heavily scented so best for nighttime and I only use on my arms. Not sure if I'll buy it.
No idea if the bath bomb is any good for skin (probably not) but again, I love the scent and it's very relaxing white bed. High risk of looking like a Twilight vampire extra as it contains glitter.

Maui shea butter hair mask.
^smells nice, left hair soft and shiny. Not quite right for me as I like silicones. Will use up but not repurchase.

Bioderma anti irritation shower oil.
^love this! It's solved my "what can I use to moisturise here without getting congestion" upper chest issue. Skin is very soft and smooth afterwards with zero greasiness or clogging. Definite repurchase.

Special mentions:
Essie nail polishes in Wicked (almost black with red undertones) and Bordeaux (Very dark cherry red). Both great for this time of year. Need a few coats though for an even colour.
Essie Good to Go top coat.
This is the topcoat I'm sticking with. Super shiny finish, dries quickly.
Chanel rouge coco shine lipstick in Fiction. Love the colour of this but unsure about the tiny bit of glitter in it and it's more pigmented than the others.
Dior lipglow in Berry. This is a 4th repurchase.
Real Techniques expert face brush and concealer brush. Face brush is excellent. Haven't used the concealer brush enough yet to judge.
RT mini beauty blenders. Bought because they looked cute. Completely unnecessary.

(Posting before I accidently delete it again...)

EnidButton · 01/11/2017 15:15

Wants:
Bobbi Brown skin glow powder (?)
BB sparkle eyeshadow in mica or ballet.
LRP toleriane double repair. (Waiting for it to appear in U.K.)
L'Oréal pure source shampoo. Supposed to be a good clarifying one.
Bath oils. That time of year again, long baths with candles and fairy lights and chocolate truffles to ward off the darkness and cold outside. Need something fancy and rich to add to the water.

Think that's it!

Ollivander84 · 01/11/2017 15:19

Anxiously awaiting third post from Enid Grin

EnidButton · 01/11/2017 15:20

😝 Grin

miffy2 · 01/11/2017 17:28

October empties:
TO NMF: nice but I won't repurchase
TO azeliac acid: I already repurchased but have nowhere for it to fit in my current routine so I will put it to the back of the shelf for now.
Vita Liberata Tan: yes, I love this and will buy it again, on offer only though as it is not cheap.
Sanctuary shower oil: this is lovely (as is the foam version) - good for day to day use and leaves skin soft.
clinique moisture surge concentrate serum: liked this but not good value and probably doesn't really add anything to my skin apart from moisture!
Garnier eye makeup remover (purple, non-oily mix) - HG status.
LRP toleriane fluide: yes, loved this and have two backups.
Alfaparf semi di Lino Nutritive mask: I use this as a conditioner, love it, will RP.

Products on trial:
Eucerin Daily Protection Moisturizing Face Lotion Sunscreen SPF 30: as recommended by Dr Dray. LOVE this. Very liquidy, a little white cast but sinks in quickly. Lovely. Have been using this for 2 weeks.
Nivea Vitamin C serum; it's fine, keeping me going until my Drunk Elephant arrives :)
Kiehls avocado eye cream: using this just 10 days or so. Used to use it years ago but never got the hang of it. It needs warming up before applying. I use this in the mornings and every second night (alternating with Verso eye serum)
Differin gel: only using this x3 per week for two weeks. Surprisingly (to me) I got a bit of peeling last night (have had NO peeling with any TO retinol or even the OTC Retirides. It is a small tube so I will use it up before making a decision on whether to RP.
Hadalabo toning fluid - have this a month but have only used it a couple of times. Will use more in winter months.
YSL all hours foundation: I dithered over this for months. Bought Fenty instead as the SA at YSL was woeful and did me up like Aunt Sally. Have since decided Fenty is too patchy on me, especially over SPF. Gave in and got this, I know it has a lot of denat alcohol so I will keep for weekends or nights out. But I love it.

Planned purchases/things I am waiting on:
P50 (to replace my P50W which will run out this month). Skincity are so good; my package appears to be lost as it has been 2.5 weeks since posted; they are replacing it for me so hopefully I get it soon.
Vanicream cleanser: another Dr Dray recommendation; this is coming to me via a forwarding service in the US along with another LRP double repair moisturiser and a Pixi hydrating mist!
Drunk Elephant kit including the C serum - can't wait to get my mitts on it!
Kiehls super multi corrective cream. I love to use this in winter, there is an upcoming promo night in my local shopping centre so I will buy with 20% off and treat myself.
BareMinerals pro wear foundation - will purchase at some stage. I am on a matte, full-coverage roll these days (I was never a fan of the ELDW or similar, but now full coverage makeup has become more elegant and can even work for the non-oily among us and I am happy to be able to apply foundation at 6.45am and see it still in place by dinnertime).
Kerastase: when I use up another shampoo I want to go back and try another of the Kerastase range, maybe the Bain Force Architecte. I am using a sample of it and like it so far.

botemp · 01/11/2017 19:04

Sorry, should have provided this earlier. Inspired by Enid's version I've added a wishlist section since we're fast approaching the holiday season not that anyone will be buying me anything.

Since it's now been the first of the month again it’s time for the monthly overview to get a good idea of what everyone's been using up an trialing and how it's been working for them. I've drawn up a simple format for everyone to use, but it's a guide really no need to adhere to it to the letter Smile.

OCTOBER EMPTIES, TRIALS, AND PLANNED PURCHASES

EMPTIES:

Mini reviews of finished products and your thoughts and whether you’d repurchase or already have.

PRODUCTS ON TRIAL:

Mini reviews of products on trial and your thoughts so far, please include for approximately how long you’ve been using it.

PLANNED PURCHASES:

Products you’re considering purchasing and would like input on/bring notice to.

SPECIAL MENTION:

Product(s) you may not have started or finished this past month but has been giving you noticeable results (good or bad).

THINGS TO NOT SO SUBTLY HINT ABOUT AKA THE WISHLIST:

Stuff you really really want... copy + paste and forward on if necessary.

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botemp · 01/11/2017 19:18

miffy, what forwarding system do you use, or is it DH? My interest courtesy of Dr. Dray had been peaked by Vanicream too but the eBay prices were ridiculous.

OCTOBER EMPTIES, TRIALS, AND PLANNED PURCHASES

EMPTIES:

Just the one- Avene Extremely Gentle Cleansing Lotion, very impressed with it and have been missing it since it's finished. Need to RP but am trying to compile an order big enough from EPP or similar.

PRODUCTS ON TRIAL:

The SkinCeuticals Vit C is still sort of on trial and am still very happy with it. May try the Vichy but think I will just end up gravitating back to this.

The Smelly Arse Sheep Serum- I'm sort of wondering if the potency is decreasing on this as it ages. Have had this experience with other TO products, impressive to start then gradually decrease. Am I alone on this with the Resveratrol/Ferulic?

I have the same feelings towards the Retinol 5%, no discernable effects as predicted at this point but it seems less potent than with first use but may just be a psychological thing/getting used to it.

PLANNED PURCHASES:

Still in planning phases, but a French haul of sorts though will be in Belgium in a week and a half so might just pick things up then.

Need to order some Japanese SPF again, am lost to the exploratory phase. Will probably just end up RP the Kose Sekkisei Excellent one in the end.

THINGS TO NOT SO SUBTLY HINT ABOUT AKA THE WISHLIST:

Medik8 R-Retinoate, a bit like Verso in terms of Retinoid type but supposedly will show results faster, 4 weeks Hmm

SkinCeuticals AOX eye-gel, eye cream with Vitamin C. I used to have the Kiehl's Vit C eye cream/serum and liked it (except if it got in your eye).

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