I've seen it mentioned on a lot of threads to ditch the foaming face washes

[lucysmam]

What do you all use instead? & why are they bad?

Gosh I sound a bit thick lately...I did used to be good at this beauty stuff

I have always double cleansed, way before I knew it was a "thing". My face gets so greasy and I wear foundation so I need to rinse and repeat otherwise my face would never be clean.

I used to suffer badly with acne, only roaccutane cleared it up properly but some of the best advice I've been given was to just put as little as possible on my face. I like Simple products, either their bar soap or any of their cleansers. I know soap is supppsed to be bad and I have a beautician friend who practically fainted when I told her I use bar soap and take my eye make up off with baby wipes and she gave me some old samples of horrifically expensive stuff, I gave it a try... ended up with skin that was dry, flaky and sore but greasy at the same time and developed some beastly big painful spots

I don't moisturise, although I wish I could. Every one I have tried makes my skin break out and if I try to put make up on top of moisturiser it just slides off straight away. The only time I've ever moisturised was when I was on roaccutane and couldn't move my face until I'd slathered it in something

Not everyone needs to moisturise FanjoBean - we are led to believe so as it sells more product

I have oily skin and don't always bother. It's fine. If you really really want to you should stick to oil-free but you might still find it too much.

I used to have poor skin realised sls total problem used cream cleanser liz earle dermatological cheap stuff no good keep away that simple range is rubbish for skin keep it simple +Muslim cloths

I am struggling to follow your post iloveoz

Is it Simple or Liz Earle that works for you?

I've been using SLS free foaming cleansers for years along with serum and my skin is pretty good.

I wash my eye makeup off with soap to, but I just do it using the tips of my fingers rather than getting it over my whole face. Anything else takes so much scrubbing and re-scrubbing. I don't know how that can be worse than thirty seconds of creamy soap.

I have been looking into this recently. I'm in the process of cutting out:

Surfactants (SLS & SLES etc). Bad for the skin, some people are sensitive to them & they can apparently thin the hair
Parabens
Silicones (most chemicals whose name ends with "one" plus a lot of others). You will need surfactants to remove the silicones.
Triclosan (as in toothpaste)

The below article is interesting.
www.huffingtonpost.com/vanessa-cunningham/dangerous-beauty-products_b_4168587.html

I think iloveoz is saying keep it simple, but don't use Simple

Thanks for the link Telephone, that's really interesting. And a little bit scary actually thinking about all the chemicals we fling about in everyday use without a second thought!

I know, isn't it! It's also scary how few products are available without them in, how expensive can be to purchase them, and how much research you have to do, just to find suitable replacement products.