The phrase 'fashion police' has no place in Style and Beauty - discuss!

[HappyGirlNow]

It's seriously getting on my nerves.
It's quoted more and more.
It's boring and unoriginal.

This is a Style and Beauty forum. It relies on opinions! Opinions are sought! Some people are blunter and more opinionated than others. So what? Without individual opinions there would be no point to it..

So.. Can people PLEASE stop churning this phrase out the minute anyone voices a negative opinion on anything?

And a lot less judging by all accounts ;)

And a lot less advice and help

The helpful ones are always good, I've picked up some great tips in the last week. I'd also like to think I've contributed something too when I've been able.

Helping and advising are gentle terms. Pointing and sneering are less favourable.

It's a good job I'm not the fashion police eh? ;)

Absolutely

Agreed... Perfect example is the thread S and B loathes - where clearly everyone is just expressing a personal opinion (I like x but don't like y). Yet still we all felt we had to qualify any opinion with 'oh obviously this is personal opinion, not hard fact' etc. etc. in case anyone gets offended. Clearly the world takes all sorts and dress however you bloody like but if you're coming on mumsnet style and beauty forum it's presumably not just to be reaffirmed in all your fashion decisions but rather to hear what other people's opinions are/get involved in some discussion!

Opinions and disagreements are what make Style and Beauty interesting.
The Joan Rivers wannabes - who were out in force on that leggings thread - can get pretty tedious.

But also yes - there's ways of phrasing things, and it's unnecessary to say things like 'I abhor people who wear flip-flops' (i don't coincidentally, just an example!) and could instead say 'for me, flip-flops not on the beach looks a bit too casual' or 'i personally don't like to wear flip-flops because they're not substantial enough' etc. etc. it's just common sense really!

But then what about 'flip flops make the wearer look slobby' ?

Not a personal attack per se, but an opinion in a slightly more, at the actual person wearing the flip flops way.

It's those kind of posts I think make people fret sometimes, they don't bother me - anyone who enjoys style and beauty knows that clothing choices project an image, like it or not.

Can someone link to the dresses and leggings thread please? It sounds fun

Ooft if you're sure coastingit

Here!

jjwhite tbh I'd say 'I abhor flipflops' without thinking twice about it then follow it up with why.. But certainly wouldn't say I abhor people who wear flipflops..

Yeah I agree with you HappyGirlNow I think it's fine to have an opinion on the item/thing itself but also unnecessary to then project that dislike of the item onto the person wearing it.

CoastingIt yeah I think it would be alright to say that too... Because imho slobby isn't a massive 'charged' term (i.e. I would freely say I look slobby in the majority of what I wear when I'm at home, and a lot of the time when out too!) That said, if rather than saying slobby someone said 'I abhor flip-flops because they make the person look cheap or ( absolute pet hate words coming up now ) 'chavvy' or 'slutty' then I think that's out of order and basically just says a lot more about the person judging than the person they're judging in 99% of cases.

I dunno - we reap and sow.

I think that I am sometimes surprised by what people might consider to be fashionable and then am laughed out of the Board by my fashion sense

I am robust enough to expect a straight or hurried answer
A simple NO will do

i go mad with ' help me style this dress ones'

FGS how hard is it? bung on some shoes and a bag

If your personal opinion is that the style being asked about looks horrible on everyone, always, I think you should be able to say that. The OP might be interested to know that some people hate it entirely and that tere is no "in a different fabric" compromise that would make them like it.

If you opinion is that a certain style will cause judgemental people (like me) to judge you as xxxx, then you should be able to say that too. The OP might be interested to know the assumptions people will make about her based on her choice.

I don't like animal print but I can't say that out loud.

Yeah I think there are some things you can say you just point blank don't like (e.g. for me personally I would say I've never seen anyone look good in see-through leggings worn as trousers so you can see their underwear, bum etc.) I also don't think I have to be apologetic about that point of view. That said it is all about phrasing and I would never say 'wearing see-through leggings makes you look x,y or z' because it's just unnecessary to say it in those terms, and could be interpreted as personally offensive. It also depends on your audience - so how I would say it to a friend/ a daughter/ a stranger on mumsnet will differ...

But you can on here twitchcoco! You can even say why if you like

I love animal print personally - but I also know (partly from reading threads on here) that some people do dislike it and make assumptions about those who wear it. It's part of the joy of clothes innit. It's like dressing up, whether you're trying to look posh, well put together and calm, young and fun, fashionable or whatever. I don't mind if not everyone likes what I wear, but there are opinions I listen to and many S and B posters have great personal style and so give great advice.

I am genuinely, right now wearing a pregnancy onesie of pure fuzzy polyester, white with pink hearts all over and 'I love my bump' on the back so feel free to disregard me.

I'm in M and S navy jeggings, flip flops and a Joules breton. I feel awesomely stylish for a frumpy old woman watching telly on a bank holiday. Where's James Bond?

But why the snark? If you like clothes and want to discuss them, hang around S and B if not, don't.

I'm someone who likes the honesty on the baby names threads though - I'd rather know the cultural connotations of a name before saddling my child with it, even if it's a bit daunting it's easier than consulting family.

Oh blimey I've offended you without even knowing it. Which bit was snarky?? I was merely sharing my outfit choice :(

I'm devastated to have missed the dresses/leggings thread: it sounds right up my street.

Link MamaLazarou

I'm not offended?! I think you are a little easily riled. I only meant you describe a perfectly nice outfit but sort of put yourself down at the same time, no need. If you want a chat about Breton tops, or whether the skinny is in fact over (not to me, I love my M and S jeggings!) get stuck in - if not, crack on.

Sorry. I'm new to all this and 51 to boot. You mentioned snark which I thought meant you thought I had been snarky. Too much overthinking on my part.

I've come to this site as a frumpy woman who is too buttoned up for her own good clothes wise and I've been looking for help getting outfits together.

im never going to be fashionable but I care about looking well put together :)