Under eye bags - any creams that could help?

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I've been using Simple products for years and it's not improving. I'm mid thirties. Is there anything which will help? Happy to pay the right price for something which will work (although I realise I may be beyond help!)

Any suggestions ladies? Or am I to accept what nature has given me graciously!

Simple is shite, sorry! Probably fine when you're in your 20's and just need a bit of moisture, but not good for much else.
I'm using REN Keep Young and Beautiful eye cream, and it's seems to be doing a good job of keeping my almost 39 year old eyes wrinkle-free. Think it's around £22, but if you email their customer services and ask nicely they'll probably send you a sample to try.

Don't have any suggestions I'm afraid but I'll be watching for anyone who does. Could do with some help myself.

Is it dark circles or puffiness you are concerned about?

For puffiness, I used haemorrhoid cream . Not sure if it helps that much, but you could give it a go.

Puffiness. I can use touche eclat for dark circles.

Haemorroid cream blue? Wasn't expecting that as a suggestion but I can see where you're coming from!

I shall also look up REN thank you Alf and yes I'm sure you're right about Simple. Thought I'd probably outgrown it by now.

I am wondering about plastic surgery and would be interested if anyone has gone down this route or know someone who has ...

Have you considered tear trough fillers? I thought I had eye bags for years and was very self conscious of them. Turned out to be tear troughs and fillers sorted the problem out. They need to be done by someone reputable though, but they are fantastic.

I've tried quite a few eye creams but I keep going back to original Nivea.
Applied before bed and only around my eyes as it's a bit heavy for me but I can feel and see the moisture and a little plumpness back there making my eyebags not as bad.
Have a try for a few weeks it's not expensive, nothing but a few pounds lost if it doesn't work for you.

I'm interested in trying the roid cream :) I can see how it could work.

adds some to mental shopping list.

I had tear duct fillers a week ago. I'm still a bit bruised but can see the difference already.

I was told by my old boss that a vitamin supplement helped her shadows/bags and she was quite young at the time (early 30s I think).

Are tear duct fillers and same as tear trough fillers?

Castles/AgathaF, what does the treatment involve, cost and any recommendations? How long to recover and how long does it last?

Hmmm, I'm not really sure how I feel about eye creams.

I used to use Burts Bees eye cream, which was quite expensive (£25 or so I think) and I thought it was working really well. Then when I ran out and I couldn't get find any more anywhere, I noticed that my under eyes didn't look any worse and it had been weeks since I used it. I actually use the simple eye balm now, cos it's really cheap comparitively and also, I don't kid myself that it's going to keep wrinkles away forever. I use it because it's cooling and it can't do any harm. Maybe when I get a bit older, I'll go back on the hunt, but for now, I think they're pretty much all the same. It just depends on how much you want to waste spend.

I think it's more about lifestyle tbh. Do you smoke? Drink a lot of water? Drink too much alcohol?

Blueshoes, yes it's the same thing. It's just a few quick injections. I bruised quite badly on one side. Results immediate. Cost varies depending on filler and how much but between £250-450 a ml. Mine lasts a year allegedly. I can PM you where I went in SW London. I've heard Tracey Mountford is the woman to go to though.

Hi castles, thanks so much. I am in (SE) London so can get to there. Please PM me

Tracy Mountford is superb at PR, and from my experiences (in Botox and consults for a variety of other things), the service doesn't live up to the hype. I've used her and a number of other people in her team and it wasn't until I went elsewhere that I realised botox shouldn't hurt, you don't need numbing cream beforehand (because it shouldn't hurt if done properly), you shouldn't bruise and you shouldn't be given an aggressive hard sell on other treatments at sky high prices. There's also no need to be kept hanging around in the waiting room for half an hour before every single appointment. If you're going to do this, shop around and don't necessarily rely on the PR. Just because she'll churn out a line to every beauty journo in town and has minor celebs who are willing to go on record for her doesn't make her "the" person to go to.

Blueshoes, I've PM'd you. Springbreak, that's interesting about TM. I did wonder about all the hype.

I've also long suspected that she has staff posting on here because of the hushed reverence with which people refer to her as the guru of 'tox & filler. If as many people went to her as the MN forum sample of the population as a whole suggests, she'd need several other offices to cope with demand! (apologies to those in charge if this is a breach of protocol)

castles, got your PM

springbreak, do you have anyone to suggest for tear trough fillers or how to go about researching? I don't know anyone who would admit to doing it

God yes! I 100% believe there are several professionals on here trying to plug their companies. I wouldn't trust anyone who suggests you have botox, or fillers without even seeing you. Botox, fillers and such like, should be seen as a last resort. It's not the same as having a facial, it's something that you really should think very carefully about. This is coming from someone who was seriously considering fillers (nose to mouth lines grrr) very recently. I'm only 29, but I hate them. After much researching and consideration, I realised that it's a slipperly slope. I might very well be happy with the results initially, but then in 6 months or so, I might think I need a top up and then another and then another. The idea that it gets absorbed 'naturally' into your body, I'm not sure I buy either. It's got to be going somewhere and also, you can see women and men for that matter, who've had it done for years and they may be line free, but they look........well odd. I think I'd rather have a few lines and look human.

Blue, I can give you the names of people who have been recommended to me. One is Yannis Alexandrides at 111 Harley Street - very fussy friend uses him.
Bela Horvath at the Park Club medispa in Acton is highly rated by a friend of mine who is in the beauty biz and uses him (& has f*cking amazing skin courtesy of his work).
The guy who did the excellent (much better than T Mountford & her henchwomen) botox job on me is called Dr Russo at The Rejuvenation Clinic on Harley St, however I felt his consult was casual to the point of non existence so I don't know whether I'd necessarily feel comfortable going to him for something new / that I hadn't thoroughly researched. The effect of his work was undoubtedly bloody good though ;-)

oh & Breaking.... one for you.... I had a make up artist working on me recently who looked incredible - woman in her mid 40s with fantastic skin. I asked who did her 'tox and she laughed and told me that nobody has it anymore (& I've had a few meetings lately with senior staff from one of the big model agencies and it was remarkable to me that none of them were in any way frozen but were revelling in their lines) - she has accupuncture facials & massage from a guy who works out of the Basil st hotel in Knightsbridge. I tried to get an appointment with him but sadly failed, but her face was great testament to his work in getting your muscles to work for themselves!

Interesting spring

I should just point out that I'm not anti these procedures, I just have an issue with how quickly people suggest you have them. I'm honestly not completely ruling them out myself. Only today I was watching This Morning and Christine Bleakley was on and I thought to myself, wow, she must have had something done, cos her skin looks amazing! Same with Amanda Holden, although she really is starting to look like one of my DD's dolls. So I completely understand why it's so tempting, because 'good' results (although subjective) are seen in the media all the time and it's hard to ignore. I did find myself looking in the mirror immediately after I saw her though, checking out my skin and wondering if xyz procedure could get me looking like her I wouldn't say I was annoyed at myself , but I wish I didn't think about it so much. 'It' being aging.

Thanks for the recommendations, springbreak

Someone good will get the result that YOU want - but you have to remember that a lot of people go in and actually request a very obvious lifted brow (think Kylie about 8 yrs ago with that big arch) / pumped up cheeks (Madonna about 4 yrs ago) - it's similar to manicures - I'd never go for half inch long french manicured porno nails, but it's a look that people request! There are a lot more people than you realise going for very subtle careful work, and every single woman on telly (bar perhaps Clare Balding) is being worked upon with lasers, injectables, radio frequencies, heat etc etc etc, and they spend a lot of time and money to achieve it.

Subtle careful work under my eyes is all I need want. I want to avoid pillow or stone face.