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Can Make up make your eyes tired?

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Onesieone · 02/04/2014 20:41

Some days usually wheni have had make up on, my eyes are really tired by approach 6pm and it affects my eyesight. Does anyone else get this?

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FrugalFashionista · 03/04/2014 15:25

A good optician/eye doctor can also do a [[http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schirmer's_test
Schirmer tear test.]] An ophthalmologist once did this to me and noticed that my tear production is abnormally low and that contacts can be problematic for me. I stopped wearing contacts and am fine if I remember to drink enough and avoid irritating makeup. Working at a computer for hours sometimes dries up my eyes - I forget to blink I think.

FrugalFashionista · 03/04/2014 15:28

Pirate see what happens if you discontinue the undereye concealer? It was the worst trigger for me.

Sorry dead link, a new one here for the tear test.

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 16:11

I had this. I Kept changing makeup to try and sort it out. Spoke to a friend who works in the beauty industry and she said to get rid of all products containing SODIUM LAUREL SULPHATE, especially shampoo as it washes over your face and is very strong. And look in my face washes.
I got products that are SLS free and where possible alcohol free and not only are my eyes better but my dry skin is gone, dandruff gone and have stopped getting spots.
apparently allergies to sls are really common and the chemical is just a foaming agent and isnt needed.
sls free products cost the same - between £4-£6 per bottle of shampoo. And the same "cleaning" feeling. Jasons lavender shampoo is a good one.

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 16:15

Sls is also in Makeup as a preserving agent. And your skin slowly absorbs it. Causing "wet" eyes, puffiness, dark circles and dehydrating the skin making wrinkles worse.

Onesieone · 03/04/2014 17:25

jokers! that's it. that's what I have!

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Shosha1 · 03/04/2014 18:03

Jokers you star! Will go look at my stuff :)

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 18:04

Would you like a list of good products and prices?Smile

Shosha1 · 03/04/2014 18:17

Please :). Sick of buying stuff that I end up giving away.

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 18:29

Doing a list (I love lists lol)
Shampoo - josons volumising lavender pure natural. The other Jason ones are ok but leave my hair a bit flat. The matching conditioner isn't very good, weighs my hair down. Its £5.99 for 16FL.oz (473 ml) in my local health food shop but cheaper on the internet.
Conditioner - dove hair therapy intensive repair keratin. £1.69 for 200 ml from boots. It does contain a small amount of alcohol.
Face wash - l'occitane cleansing milk £27 for 200 ml but the bottle lasts me a year as half a pump does my face, neck and chest.

Biggest difference to my skin was using aleo Vera gel instead of shaving foam which is packed with sls.
Eye cream - l'occitane precious eye balm £32 but lasts me a year.
Face cream - l'occitane precious cream spf 20 £42 but lasts 9 months.
Face spf - no7 anti dark spot facial sun protection spf 50, £15.....been using it every summer and still on first bottle.
Concealer - estee Lauder disappear smoothing creme concealer. Comes off with warm water. Hold cotton pad over your eye for 30 to soften it and then it comes off without scrubbing. £18 but lasts over a year/ 18 months ish.
Mascara -any soap and glory. About £8 depending on which one. I use "thick and fast" collagen coat.
Body wash - l'occitane almond shower oil. Can't remembe how much it was as got it over 2 years ago.....

Any questions anyone would like me to ask my beauty industry friend when we meet up for coffee?

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 18:31

Sodium laureth sulphate is fine. Sound similar but is totally different. Sodium laurel Sulphate is the enemy!

Onesieone · 03/04/2014 18:59

That's great. My partner uses l'occitan stuff and he swears by it. I'm going to have two days with nothing on my face at all see if that makes a difference. Before I give up my beloved Lancome routine which has finally sorted my skin out!

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Attraversiamo · 03/04/2014 19:01

I get this! Only it's like my vision is abit blurry after I put mascara on for some reason??

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 19:02

The other advice she gave me was - eat lots of lean meat ( qourn,tofu, chicken, turkey), no precessed stuff. Oily fish is great. Lots of veg, fruit is ok but veg is better. eat lots of avocado and almonds. Drink lots of water, limit Caffeine and alcohol.

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 19:43

Sls can be i'm mascara too so that's prob why.
The other point my friend made was about hand wash - almost all contain sls and normally we don't rinse week enough then rub our eyes/put lip balm on with a finger ect.
I use faith in nature Lavender and geranium hand wash. Also stopped my nails splitting so much.
Some lancome products don't have sls - have you checked the ingredients? You might not have to give it up!
The biggest culprits are face wash and shampoo (and body wash.....but that won't effect your eyes lol)

JokersGiggle · 03/04/2014 19:45

If your stopping putting stuff on your face as a test your also going to have to not wash your hair as the sls in the shampoo will wash off over your face.

FrugalFashionista · 03/04/2014 20:12

Joker trying to go SLS free is a great idea because SLS is a powerful surfactant and can be very drying or irritating on some people.

Would like to add that SLS is a common toothpaste ingredient too!

I did try going SLS free and stopped putting anything except water and natural castile soap on my face for several weeks when I had really bad perioral eczema (sulphates are some of the hypothetical triggers). All other substitutions /omissions were easy but I was unable to find a satisfying SLS free shampoo (am in Italy, limited choices here and the ones I tried were too oily) and went finally back to my trusty old shampoo. Turns out I tolerate SLS just fine - but something else of the dozens of ingredients is a trigger for me. A pigment, a wax, a preservative, a perfume - haven't been able to identify which one but it's something in eye makeup and lipsticks. Cosmetic chemistry is really complex as many products have dozens of ingredients! But a less product-intensive routine has been really great for me...

When you see your friend from the beauty industry, please let her know that quite a few of us peruse INCI lists and my preferred products have very short ingredient lists! I've also found that far too many 'natural' products use a lot of essential oils. That's great for many but personally I prefer oil-free noncomedogenic stuff to keep my acne/rosacea prone skin. blemish free.

Sorry about the really looooongwinded post. Blush

SilkStalkings · 03/04/2014 22:51

100% natural can be pricey but worth it. These guys do SLS free washes and cruelty-free too.

teta · 04/04/2014 12:54

Its just as common to be allergic to natural products as synthetic ones.Yes, sls's can be a common allergan and are probably best avoided but almost anything can cause a reaction in someone,somewhere.
Food can effect allergies,fish oils,flax seed oils etc.can 'damp' down allergic reactions.Certain oils like advocado and nut oils help keep the skin moisturised.Lean meat does not have a direct effect on allergies ( other than its generally healthier).Oily fish now would be beneficial ( if you ignore the large dose of heavy metals you're probably ingesting with it).
As Frugal has already stated stop using products immediately if you suspect a reaction.Go visit the optician if you suspect something more seriously wrong.Use the minimum number of products with the shortest number of ingredients in the future ( introducing back one product at a time).

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