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House of Colour, Colour Me Beautiful etc

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TwoNoisyBoys · 20/01/2014 22:03

I'm very interested in this! Some people seem to LOVE it and say it's worth doing, some not. How does it work? How much does it cost and is it worth it? Did it make a massive difference to your 'look' and if so, do you stick to it all the time? Is it easy to stick to? (So many questions!) hope someone fancies answering some of these for me please :)

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Hopefully · 21/01/2014 06:46

I can answer some of that, but I'm a teeny bit biased about which is best, because I'm a HoC consultant.

Basically both systems aim to help you find the palette of colours that works best for you. At HoC we do this by comparing a series of different toned drapes to first assess whether you have warm or cool skin tone and then to assess whether you need richer/more muted colours or clearer/brighter colours. We then show you the make up colours you can wear that will make you look your best, and spend some time talking about exactly how to use your swatch book to shop/sort your wardrobe/generally feel amazing.

People use the information to different degrees - a lot of my youngest clients will keep it in mind purely for something like a prom dress, many many clients will adopt it as a rule book for every aspect of their wardrobe (makes things like capsule/perfectly co-ordinated wardrobe very very simple if everything mixes and matches, colour-wise), and some people fall somewhere between the two, where they will make sure that any tops/scarves are good colours, but might not obsess too much about making everything in their wardrobe perfect. Pretty much every single client says that (a) it isn't as limiting as they thought it would be, as there are so many colours within each palette, that actually it gives them more ideas rather than limiting their choices, and (b) the whole process is more interesting/life changing than they expected it to be.

It shouldn't be too tricky to stick to, as you'll have seen exactly what the right and wrong colours look like and how to shop with your swatch book (at HoC we are determined that as far as possible the client sees and understands it too, rather than just being given a swatch book and marched out the door with very little further information).

At HoC a colour analysis is a 3-5 hour class usually, with anything up to three other people, the vast majority of my own classes are 2-3 people.

Sorry, that was a bit long!

SorrelForbes · 21/01/2014 07:02

I had my Hoc session in November and it's really changed the way I put outfits together, colour wise. I was very brutal through and threw out anything that didn't fall within my Hoc palette. All the items in my wardrobe pretty much tone with each other. I'm doing my style day on Saturday with Hopefully and I'm excited Grin.

TwoNoisyBoys · 21/01/2014 07:09

Thank you Hopefully, that was a great post! Thank you so much......really explained it well!

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TwoNoisyBoys · 21/01/2014 07:12

I'd be excited too Sorrell :) I look at my wardrobe, and think it needs 'something' and I'm just wondering if this is the way to go? I think I know what colours and shapes suit me, but I'm still really interested......thank you for your post :)

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CambridgeBlue · 21/01/2014 08:33

I am still so torn about doing this (have posted about it before ). On the one hand I love the idea of finding out what suits me and being able to look my best. But I worry it's going to cost me a fortune in new clothes (on top of the cost of the day) if everything I've already got is 'wrong'.

Hopefully · 21/01/2014 08:48

Cambridge your consultant should be able to talk about ways to kind of evolve your wardrobe over to the right colours after the analysis - it's not about expecting you to toss everything out and start again. A couple of t-shirts and a scarf in good colours can improve 99.9% of outfits. I often talk to my clients about how to divide up their wardrobe into a 'wrong' and a 'right' side and not throw out the wrong side, but just not make that side any bigger as clothes are worn out and replaced, and how to make the best of the clothes in the wrong side while that's happening. I think it was about a two year process for me to get all my clothes over to being my colours, and that was with the added shopping inventive of knowing I was training as a consultant!

BiddyPop · 21/01/2014 08:52

2 of my aunts got me a present of CMB colour and style session just around the time I got married (back when Methuselah was a lad Smile eh 14 years ago). I didn't use it much initially as what I had, there were some really not great things but I was young, fairly broke and spending all my spare time after work on decorating the house.

BUT as time has gone on, I have used it as the basis on which to develop my wardrobe and makeup. I still use the swatches occasionally especially for ideas to put things together. But I have a much better idea now of what does suit me so it tends to be from my range anyway. And as I have gotten the confidence to move away from plain black or navy suits, I have found some nice ones in my colours, as alternatives that make me stand out in a good way. Which in itself boosts my frail confidence.

I have never gone back to update it, I tend to go to the MAC counter for makeup ideas and trust myself on clothes. But it did a lot to teach me how to put it all together way back when I needed it, to now looked groomed and polished on at least a semi-regular basis!

CambridgeBlue · 21/01/2014 08:54

Thanks Hopefully, that makes sense.

HandsOffMyGazBaz · 21/01/2014 09:07

I am quite a pale person, not english Rose pale but ill pale! I have to get uv therapy which I am told will give me the effect of a bit of a tan. I want to get my colours done but am afraid I won't get a true reflection of myself, with a tan that is not my skin tone and hair colour that isn't natural, would that make a difference do you think?

SorrelForbes · 21/01/2014 09:50

I threw out all my beige. It had to be done (Jewel Winter!)

SludgeBrown · 21/01/2014 10:00

A tan doesn't change your overall colouring (it just makes you a little deeper). CMB uses the Munsell system of colour. Basically he suggested that every colour is made up of 3 characteristics;
Undertone - how warm or cool it is
Clarity - how vibrant or muted a colour is
Depth - how deep a colour is
We are all a colour so it stands to reason that we will adopt 3 of these characteristics!!

Understanding your colours is a good idea, it really is but I'm not evangelical about following my own colours to the letter. You will understand why a certain shade of colour works and why another doesn't. Have a look at my blog - it might help:

iwontwearsludgebrown.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/oh-no-not-another-fashion-blog-having.html#comment-form

I trained with CMB a few years ago but no longer carry out consultations - you'll see from the blog that I'm a bit of a rule breaker, hopefully I just about get away with it!!

escargot · 21/01/2014 10:30

I found my foray into HoC both enabling and frustrating in equal measure.

I like the idea of being a sultry winter with my 'best' colours but can't see how that means I have to wear 'bright' colours as the sultry ones aren't bright, they're rich.

The make-up has me close to tears so for now I've stopped wearing it. My consultant said I have pale olive skin but as a winter my tone has to be cool surely? Cool = pink and on olive skin that's just wrong.

I colour my hair to cover grey - it's naturally dark brown but the very process of colouring hair involves peroxide/some lighteners to allow colour to penetrate and that leaves gold on the ends.

I like knowing charcoal looks good on me but other than that feel frustrated in the extreme.

Help!

SludgeBrown · 21/01/2014 10:50

Escargot, you're obviously thoroughly miserable following your colours. I'm not familiar with the HofC colour palettes so can't advise but all I will say is that I'm a trained consultant with CMB and am a soft - so I should wear soft, muted colours. I hate them! That said I know that I look my best when wearing them. So I've learned to pick out just the shades that I like (nudes, charcoal, navy) and mix them with naughty colours!! If I'm wearing black, I take my hair away from my face and put on extra blusher.

The whole idea is that you balance your look with the clothes you wear so if you have a strong look, you should wear strong colours. A more delicate look eg. Blondes need more delicate colours.

Your consultant is right though, olive skin really should stay away from yellow-y based make-up. Salmon and peach aren't great as they can make you look sallow so pinks are better. Try mid toned blusher and lipstick if full on pinks are not your thing.

I've posted my blog details a couple of posts back - see if that helps.

All I would say is if you hate the colours so much, don't wear them. It's just not worth it. Find the colours that your happy with and you feel confident in x

pinkflaming0 · 21/01/2014 10:51

Ooh escargot I've just posted on the winter colours thread as I was 'diagnosed' as a winter years ago but don't feel comfortable with all of the colours. Brighter ones seem too harsh, paler ones too washed out and black is too draining (could be my age) but love charcoal!

My hair is naturally very dark brown and I would describe my skin as pale olive (murky green eyes with golden brown bits).

I struggled at first with the pink with olive skin idea but pink toned lipsticks and blusher most definitely look better than orange/peach/tawny toned.

I never wear bright lipstick though - just a pinky 'my lips but better' gloss.

escargot · 21/01/2014 10:54

sludge thanks for your post. Can I just pin you down (so to speak!) on the make-up please since you know what you're talking about?

Olive skin tans easily and that's a kind of golden no? Pink on that sounds horrid. Mind you - when I do tan it's a dirty colour so maybe that's the point! What colour is sallow I wonder?

Bright make up doesn't suit quiet natures - no matter what our colouring! Confused

escargot · 21/01/2014 10:55

pink thanks for that! Glad I'm not alone :) Charcoal looks great on me too :)

MissScatterbrain · 21/01/2014 11:03

escargot - come and join us on the HoC Winters thread as there are loads of make up tips that you may find helpful.

There are lots of sultry winters (myself included) on it. I wear a lot of dark colours but use the brighter ones as accent or as a second colour (e,g charcoal dress with emerald cardigan).

escargot · 21/01/2014 11:04

Hi miss! I already popped in as pink mentioned it too.

Cross post x

Hopefully · 21/01/2014 11:33

escargot foundation is the one thing that really needs to match with what's going on with the surface of your skin - don't stress about warm/cool/undertones for that, just get a foundation that disappears. And then try applying a bit winter blusher/lipstick/eyeshadow (whichever you're comfortable with, not all at once if you've lost your confidence a bit!) and see how you feel. Not unusual at all to be an olive skinned Winter, I've had plenty of them.

Also re being a sultry winter, if you look at your colours in comparison to other seasons, they still are really bright and saturated, they are just more rich and muted than some of the other winter shades (you are at the more muted/dark end of the winter palette, but that palette is still an awful lot brighter and clearer than the summer palette, for instance). Again, don't get in a pickle trying to overthink, just start with the sultry winter shades you feel most confident with, and if you want to buy something that falls in the brighter part of your palette, just buy it. It is very easy to overthink the sub-sections of each season. Knowing what 'type' of Winter you are is great for starting out and having some guidance, but getting bogged down in it makes things more complicated when you're trying to apply it to real life clothes.

Pink black can be a bit draining on a lot of winters - just because winters are the season that wears it the best doesn't mean it looks absolutely amazing on every single last winter - the ratings system that we use should be able to identify how much and where black looks best on you.

Hopefully · 21/01/2014 11:37

OP, if you want a bit more of an impartial view of what goes on in a class, I had a beauty blogger along to a class last week and she's written a post about it here.

escargot · 21/01/2014 11:43

hopefully I AM in a pickle and I AM overthinking it all :(

Thanks for your advice Thanks x

Hopefully · 21/01/2014 12:10

Escargot if you were my client I'd want you to give me a call so I could help you get clearer on everything. Maybe drop your consultant an email or something. PM if I can be of any more help at all too - I think colour analysis is such a brilliant and useful thing, and it's such a shame if something gets in the way of that!

Aquelven · 21/01/2014 12:30

I've found it's made a huge difference to how I shop & look at clothes. It's only eight months since I did the colour day, & a month since the style day,so I'm nowhere near having my wardrobe sorted yet but it's stopped me buying things that end up being mistakes that stagnate in the wardrobe unworn, something I've been very guilty of doing in the past.
You think winters have problems adjusting to bright colours...try being a spring Confused.

Hopefully been looking at your facebook page & ones for other consultants linked from threads of winter & autumn threads. They are hugely interesting & inspiring but not very relevant for us. Was wondering if you knew of any that were run by consultants who are themselves springs? You must know Spring consultants from attending meetings?
Blue Springs would be even better for me but any springs would be great as unfortunately we aren't lucky enough to have a spring consultant posting on our thread who's brains we can pick.

SludgeBrown · 21/01/2014 13:28

Escargot, Hopefully seems to have answered your question about make up,and I concur with everything she says.

Sallow has a yellow undertone to the skin as indeed does olive. Pinky based blushers and lipsticks counteract this. It doesn't have to be full on pink as long as the colour derives from pink as oppose to something peachy.

If you go to a really good make-up counter, the consultant should be able to guide you towards the right shades. If she starts talking about warming you up with colour, walk away. You can't warm an olive skin as it's cool-based!

Hope this helps x

escargot · 21/01/2014 13:33

thanks hopefully I've avoided a chat as don't really know what to say other than moan!

sludge thank you - that makes sense but I thought pink toned faces needed pink toned foundations and yellow-toned need yellow foundations Confused

I could weep!