Going 'Cruelty-Free'. Anyone care to join me?

[ILoveMakeUp]

I love my expensive make-up and skincare, but lately I have been feeling increasingly uneasy about animal testing. A brief look on the Peta website has convinced me that I don't want animals to suffer for my vanity.

So, I have decided to go Cruelty-Free. I am using up the products that I already have, but I will only replace them with cruelty-free products. I am trying to get a list together of companies whose products I like that don't test on animals and have come up with the following so far:

Make-up: Stila
Hair: Aveda
Skincare: ??? (especially looking for something 'high end').

No Pannacotta, Stila is not owned by Estee Lauder any more. They sold the brand which then went bankrupt before being rescued by this lady.

I started using Stila after MAC started animal testing in China. Have to say their products are fantastic.
Green People, love them fantastic shampoo and conditioners.
REN
Cowshed
Acorelle perfumes
Dr Organic
Dessert Esscence their almond body and hand lotion is fantastic one of the best I've used and reasonabley priced.
A'Kin sandalwood face wash

Real Techniques brushes - synthetic and totally fab, I much prefer them to my much more expensive MAC brushes.

You do realise that all ingredients that go into skin care products have been tested on animals? Lush send questionnaires out to their ingredient suppliers ensuring that the ingredients haven't been tested for cosmetic reasons since a certain date (can't exactly remember when) but it doesn't mean that the ingredients haven't been rested on animals for other reason I.e to check they're not carcinogenic.

matilda simply not true. Here is a statement from Green People many other cruelty free companies also follow these guidelines

Green People are and always have been totally opposed to any cruelty to animals. Since starting the Green People in 1997, we have operated to the following principles: -
• We have never carried out or commissioned animal testing of any raw material, cosmetic ingredient or finished product. All Green People products are tested on human volunteers.
• We do not and will not use ingredients that have been made by manufacturers who carry out or commission animal testing of cosmetic ingredients."

Dr Haushka is great high end skincare stuff.

My daughter is a vegan.

I buy stuff called Good Things frommSainssburys.

Its inexpensive but is also on offer at the moment

www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/frameset/redirect.jsp;GROSESSIONID=S1PfCpcxLHvrC595nZrgk0xkJzYxyttqJ5Zf2p7mLTHhp6y69vy1!1071351926?bmForm=deep_link_groceries_search_javascript&bmFormID=1379225375758&bmUID=1379225375758&screenWidth=768

Here is a link to the range sold in Sainsburys

www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp

Info on the company

www.goodthingsbeauty.com/our_story.php

Alice Hart-Davis is behind it.

oh and the nice thing about Green People 10% of the profit goes to charity.

Zara - re read your statement - it doesn't say they don't use ingredients that have been tested on animals for reasons other than cortical purposes.

For example, silica and zeolites are used in many cosmetics and they have been tested on animals but not got cosmetic purposes. The actual product may not have been tested on animals but the raw materials they use will most certainly have been tested on animals at some point.

Cortical? I mean cosmetic.

Re Stila I cant find any info which supports them being cruelty free, they aren't approved by Naturewatch or BUAV, so I remain unconvinced, which is a shame.
I agree Dr Hauchka is a good brand for skin care.

Re BArry M -not all their products are vegan. Some of the lipsticks are not. If you check their website it tells you which are.

maltilda I've read it again and don't have an issue with it. Unless of course you can prove otherwise.

it states "We have never carried out or commissioned animal testing of any raw material, cosmetic ingredient or finished product. All Green People products are tested on human volunteers"

Pannacotta Stila is listed under the PETA website that states they do not test on animals.

www.peta.org/living/beauty-and-personal-care/companies/568.aspx

I buy online from Lucy Rose Organic Beauty: A'kin and John Masters hair products and Lavera skin care. Planet Organic is also a good website/shop to check out.

Thanks Zara, but I don't rate the Peta guide, they endorse the Body Shop for example.
I think the UK lists are more trustworthy and seem to have more stringent criteria.

Oh and Tara Smith is a good brand for decent hair care, you can get them at Cult Beauty online or in M&S.

all make up ingredients will have been tested on animals at some point, even if it isn't done now. There's no need for new research or products in makeup or 'skincare' - the whole 'industry' is massively wasteful although it does of course provide jobs.

sorry - no such thing as 'no animal testing' for anything. You need to decide which is more important, your slap or your principles.

specialsubject what are your sources?

On Stila's website, they have a little earth symbol with 'Cruelty-free & Eco-friendly' here in the bottom right hand corner. I take this as meaning they don't test on animals?

BTW, am so pleased REN are cruelty-free, I love their products.

Zara - special subject is correct ALL types of raw materials will have been tested on animals in the past.

This following statement just states that they haven't carried out or commissioned animal testing; it doesn't mean that animal testing hasn't been carried out by the ingredients manufacturer for other reasons.
"We have never carried out or commissioned animal testing of any raw material, cosmetic ingredient or finished product. All Green People products are tested on human volunteers"

The point is, that we cannot do anything about raw materials that were tested on animals in the past. All we can do is use products that are not tested on animals, historically or currently.

Green People have been operating for 16 years without testing their products/ingredients on animals I am happy with that. As ILoveMakeUp states there is nothing we can do about the past.

Im so frustrated that companies that used to be legit are being bought by loreal etc, wish they could keep their hands off. I love urban decay and even though they don't test their parent company does..grr makes it really hard to keep up to date with things, feel like I need to constantly check what I'm buying.

My go to stuff is co op, m and s and astonish for cleaning products. And for make up have started using the B range from superdrug, and superdrug own brand (they have loads of ranges) for skin care and hair care.

But then I heard that Superdrug support some cancer charity which carry out animal testing....which opens a whole new debate. Why is it so hard??

Even if stuff was tested in the past, which is horrendous, it's better than supporting companies that STILL do it/only stopped because legislation forced them to.