Where do all the stylist women in London get their padded winter coats with real fur around the hood from????

[mistakeallround]

As the title says.... where can i get one of these lovely padded coats from? they are to the knee, slightly padded, real fur round collar and hood and bloody gorgeous....the coat looks expensive but not Moncler ...can anyone help me ???

[Silibilimili]

I got mine years ago from good old m&s. it's faux fir.

[Mominatrix]

Was going to say Canada goose, but someone beat me to it.

[Astaril]

One of the sadest things I ever saw was on a documentary a couple of years ago called "Kill it, Skin it, Wear it". It showed footage of a fox in China that had been skinned alive and thrown on a pile left to die, the little thing was bearly alive all sinew and veins showing but it looked up into the camera and tried to press its nose up against the lense. It haunts me to this day. It showed many other terrible things but this is the one that tore my heart open.

What really bothered me is how people can be so detatched from an animal with the same feelings and emotions as a pet dog suffering this horrendous cruelty? It is actually quite worryingly psychopathic when you really think about it. Take someone like Jlo, who openly and uncaringly wears real fur. People have critised her for it and told her why she shouldn't wear it, she knows that foxes are skinned alive etc yet she still wears it. It is that detatchment from the very real suffering and pain that 20 different foxes/dogs have had to endure to make that pretty coat that is very disturbing. Possesing the ability to shut your mind off to that is worrying and says something very bad about you as a person. ie: Serious. Emotional. Problems. There has to be some kind of messed up psychopathy with these individuals.

It's like... "I know what I am doing is wrong/cruel/evil.. but I don't care, I don't feel any remorse" This is what disturbs me most about it.

Anyway, don't wear real fur. you know it's wrong deep down inside. Don't be detached,... hear their whimpering cries! because doing so makes you a better, healthier person.

p.s. You can not yet buy a fur coat which has good animal welfare conditions. As the documentary explained. All fur pelts go to one great big fur sorting warehouse, to be sorted by shade. You can never know where your fur comes from.

All the above is aside from the problems when pelts come from endagered animals in the wild too. heavy sigh all this destruction and pain for a flipping coat.

[IAmSoFuckingRock]

fur- faux or real is hideous looking. i've never been able to understand the attraction. it all looks cheap- yes even the real stuff.

[Justreadthefuckingwords]

I saw your OP & was going to say Moncler.

[Justreadthefuckingwords]

Don't know - I have a Carl Donoghue Shearling.

Padded, I'd go Moncler.

[MrsCampbellBlack]

Burberry do a padded coat with fur trim but its similar price to Moncler

[Justreadthefuckingwords]

Astaril - I'm generally a bit hard-arsed about fur as a meat eating leather wearer, but that's made me think twice - I'll look it up. Thanks.

[noddyholder]

Moncleur so expensive but lovely.tried on a friends Canada goose if ever a warm coat could look glam thatvwas it!

[Bonsoir]

Moncler
Woolrich
Blauer
Canada Goose
Aigle

[JammySplodger]

Just a bit about 'ethical' fur labelling

[lurkingaround]

Did you see the mention of Astrakhan on this board lately? I hadn't known exactly what it was until then. Worth a thread oof its own really. I will link again: here.

There is no need.

[lurkingaround]

of not oof, obviously. Sheesh, read before posting.

[toomuchmonthatendofthemoney]

Please don't go for real fur, Astraril has said it all already.

I like Hobbs Chamrousse coat with detachable hood. They are 20% off till today too.
hobbs

[bishboschone]

Astaril... That has made my blood run cold .. I have never been able to watch the footage but I know it goes on. I agree totally that the men / women ? Doing it must be disturbed to be able to do that to a living creature . Why the feck can't they kill them humanely just before they do it ..( if they must tear its fur from its body .. .bastards !

[slug]

You know, some fur is ethical.

Back when I was a student in the 80's, one of the ways I made extra money was by trapping possums for fur. I would get $10 a pelt and it was quite a common thing for my peers to do.

Before you get horrified at why and how I could do something like that, can I put some background in here to give you a perspective. I come from New Zealand, a country with (almost) no native mammals. It's known for it's unique birdlife and unique forests. The possum was imported into New Zealand and, having no predators, has caused absolute devastation. It eats bird eggs, eats the growing tips of the native tree ferns and spreads bovine TB. It's hard to describe just what a ecological disaster it caused. The possums have proved very difficult to eradicate, the govt have tried poison bait drops, always controversial, and paid people to trap possums. As trappers for fur we were, is a small way, helping to keep the numbers down to a reasonable number.

However, later in the 80's as the anti fur movement gained ground and started spreading it's propaganda, the demand for fur dropped and the numbers of possums soared. Quite a few bird species hovered on the verge of extinction until the govt stepped in with the poison bait drops. As I explained to DH the first time he witnessed the NZ roads, Kiwi's see it as their patriotic duty to run over any possum they see.

I feel no shame wearing possum fur clothes. The possum - merino knitwear especially is the softest warmest thing you will ever wear.

[IAmSoFuckingRock]

slug did you kill them humanely?

[bishboschone]

Yeah that's the point .. Just kill the feckers humanely .

[waltermittymistletoe]

Just become you think possum are a nuisance doesn't mean it's ethical.

How did you get the fur?

[Astaril]

Justreadthefuckingwords- Thanks, thats brilliant! I am also, like you, meat eating and leather wearing by the way. I do source free range and only eat lamb in restaurants where I can not be sure but I am certainly not anti farming animals, nor against some poor eskimo who needs to keep warm and makes a fur coat. I am anti fur trade because it really is genuine cruelty. It can not be compared in any way to farming meat or using leather. It is in a different league and will always be as it can never be regulated. The craziest thing is that high quality fake fur is amazing so it is just so unessesary.

bishboschone- The equipment needed to kill them without ruining the pelt ie: gas, electrocution is expensive so in China they just don't bother with it.

Slug- If the possums were caught in the wild using a cage type trap and killed quickly there is nothing wrong with it exactly, it is the larger problem of regulating a fur trade. How can you know which pelts are humanly caught, kept and killed and which ones are not?

Farming Fur is illegal in Britain and there are restrictions on what can be imported, sadly this doesn't go far enough. The only people who can stop this trade gaining even more ground are the fashion designers, celebrities and models willing to be brave enough to say NO and they will if people would just bloody well STOP BUYING IT!

BBC article

The Independent

[slug]

So what do you propose waltermittymiseltoe? Let several species of birds go extinct instead? there are shades of grey in this argument.

FWIW We used large live catch cages and a friend, who had a licence, did the gassing.

[bishboschone]

I know because they are heartless bastards !!!

[waltermittymistletoe]

I don't propose you do anything.

I was saying that an overpopulation of the animal doesn't necessarily make it ethical because it's about the method used to skin the animal.

So you gassed them. One of the more humane ways. Fair enough. I was only asking!

[Sleepwhenidie]

Was going to say just what sansucre did

[50shades1]

I have the Aigle Cuckmere coat which is duckdown with detachable real fur collar, costs about £260. It's lovely and warm and I think always looks smart compared to other padded coats.