How do you get your daily SPF?

[Lottapianos]

What's your everyday SPF product/products?

Mine:

Winter - BB cream ( have used Gosh, Maybelline, Garnier) with minimum SPF 15

Summer - Ultrasun Factor 50 + BB cream with minimum SPF 15

and there ahve been cases of rickets again, even in the South of England.

I think common sense yes, paranoia no.

Oh come on Ariel- you are a devil!

No skin is not meant to sag or wrinkle in your 50s and 60s. I am that age-ish. I have no wrinkles. I was told to use SPF after/during treatment for ezcema 20 years back and have continued ever since.
Maybe it's coincidence my skin is unlined. Maybe it's the SPF. Your choice :)

Chandon- rickets was and is caused by people not drinking enough milk usually.

Yes it's the lack of vit D but you can save your skin and supplement- and eat a healthy diet.

How many of you eat a can of sardines twice a week and 2 portions of salmon or herrings? Plenty vit D in those.

Alright. Think back to when women didn't put SPF on every day. They would have been somewhat lined by their fifties.

I don't understand how you can say that skin is not meant to deteriorate over time . Of course we would all rather keep the smooth, dewy bloom of our twenties into our fifties and sixties - but it's probably not going to happen, no matter how much the skincare industry tells us we should be spending on products.

As for "your choice", well I have already mentioned what I use on my face.

A lot of skin "bloom" depends on how hydrated you are anyway i.e. how much water you drink.

I've always found that if the signs of sun damage, alcohol misuse or smoking start making me look old, I just have another cake. Nothing fills out the lines like an extra half a stone.

I've noticed that people with no sense of humour have few, if any, wrinkles of their faces, so maybe we should all stop laughing too?

I only started using it as I got such bad pigmentation all over my forehead while pregnant that I couldn't go without makeup at all.

Jurlique sun lotion or La Roche Posay tinted are the only high factor ones I can use regularly without getting horribly congested skin. City Block didn't suit at all.

Posted too soon! It is gradually fading with things I'm using but any sun on my face without SPF & it gets really dark again.

Does covering your face in chemicals all the time not have an adverse effect on the skin?

It's just depressing reading the silly replies here....

The OP asked a genuine question- some posters are just enjoying creating an argument, when one doesn't really exist.

Ariel- yes of course people look older, but what you don't want to accept is that sun is a major cause of skin damage, and which can be prevented to an extent.

I don't know why I'm wasting time on this- it's akin to someone arguing that smoking isn't bad for health and trying to convince them otherwise.

It is not aking to that AT ALL! And it's called discussion! People are questioning whether it is actually necessary to be constantly smearing their faces with cream. As for any aspersions you may be casting at my refusal to accept facts, then I refer to the post where I described what I do to prevent sunburn.

Smoking indeed.....good Lord!

No one knows for sure that wearing SPF daily has no adverse effect on skin.

What we do know is sun causes premature ageing. Sun causes skin cancer. If you want to try and avoid either, wear sunscreen (and don't smoke).

And while Caucasian skin has been designed to get as much exposure to the sun as is possible in this part of the world, there seems to be little doubt that a lot, if not most of us are vit D deficient, whether we wear sunscreen or not.

Yes, wear sunscreen for sure.

But also be sensible in the sun. Don't lie out in it at midday in the belief that because you are wearing sunscreen, you won't burn.

It comes down to common sense.

But what I don't get, and perhaps someone sensible might explain it, is that if most of us in this part of the world are so VitD deficient, then what is "normal" and why have we not adapted to this, given that there have been humans in northern Europe for hundreds of thousands and millions of years?

I use mainly Clinique superdefence. My family all have such terrible skin so I want to try and protect it as best I can. I've been using some kind of SPF for the past seven years. I kind of think the work I put into my skin now will pay off in years to come.

Plus my DM is a real sun worshipper, she doesn't look good for it. I want to avoid that.

Superdefence! It sounds like a fort

We're probably only learning what is normal for vitD, and we'll probably learn lots in the next few years. And we can now measure bones. Life expectancy was quite short all those years ago. So we don't know what bones were like. or any much else really. By living as long as we (hopefully) do, skews the 'normal' picture.
Osteoporosis is so common, most of us can expect its joys, so anything that might interrupt this disease is welcome.

Am I making any sense at all or am I talking shite?

You're making sense I think. But if so few people are normal, then why are they normal?

Ariel When I first started using 'nice' skincare it was one of the few moisturisers that I could find that was really good for oily skin. I have tried a few different ones and always came back to that one. Saying that my skin has changed recently and hasn't been responding as well as it use to. So I've been using origins perfect day with SPF. It's lovely! I would recommend it for a nice all round moisturiser.

Many diseases of today are a result of lifestyle.

In the past you would have run around a lot more - away from woolly mammoths. More exercise= stronger bones.

You would also not have lived much beyond your 40s or 50s and so diseases like osteoporosis would not have figured.

Diseases like cancer ( which Vit D may help) are greatly linked to diet and lifestyle, but also ageing. Most people who live long enough will develop either cancer of heart disease.

Research is showing that more Vit D may prevent some ilnesses, as people in warmer places like Italy etc have less breast cancer- but then it may be diet, lifestyle , pollution, and a million other factors that help them.

I doubt if that many people are technically Vit D deficient TBH_ I had a full profile of all my minerals and vits done as health screening for my bones, and although I don't eat dairy, I was fine for Vit D,

And I use sunscreen 365 days.

Well on that we do agree, MissBoPeep, especially on the exercise and pollution bit.

I wear factor 50 - I did used to spend the money on Cityblock but I don't bother now, just wear any factor 50. But, I do wear it every day, and I never sit in the sun, ever.

This is not from vanity (although I am very vain I must admit) - I had a cancerous mole removed from my face a few years ago, it has left a visible scar so every time I look in the mirror I am reminded of that. Truth is, the damage has probably already been done (I was fried repeatedly in the tropics as a kid, and I am very pale skinned).

The vitamin D thing I don't give two hoots about - I eat a varied diet and I take supplements. But I do care about protecting my skin.

Quite a percentage of us are vit D deficient, I think more and more of us are being advised to take daily supplements. Most of us do not get enough vit D from diet, and as we protect ourselves from the sun so well, the only option is to supplement.

I swim outdoors year round.
I never use an SPF anything - apart from sunblock when I go to somewhere hotter than I'm used to with my permatan.
I like my wrinkles.
And people still think I'm 15 years younger than I am.

HATE 'supplements' and 'products'. Fresh air is much nicer.