Just reading the message about someone wanting an alternative to a shrug and I agree they do tend to look . Anyway I was wondering why they are so popular and then it dawned on me that actually what is needed is more dresses with sleeves. The strappy styles just don't look great unless your upper arms are fab and are a bit "exposed" to wear for work if you are say, a teacher or work in an office. I also find if you are generous of nork (as I am) then sleeveless styles are also difficult as if I buy a size big enough for my boobs the armholes gape and show off my bra. So what I need is nice trendy dresses but with actual sleeves. Dress designers please take note. Thank you.