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Rubbish hair

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 07:15

Ladies, I'm at the end of my tether with my flipping hair, and need your wisdom.

I have brown hair, kind of just below should length. My problem is FRIZZZZZZZZZZZZ Sad.

The only way I can get my hair in a presentable state to wear it down is to dry and straighten it, but it takes me ages to straighten it. So it probably takes me the best part of an hour to dry and straighten it. Which consequently means I mostly just have to tie it back because I just don't have that long to spend every time I wash it (3 yo DS and of with no 2 = not that much excess time Wink)

Ok, so when I go to the hairdressers to get it coloured and cut, they can get it lovely and smooth. They can properly blow dry it and only have minimal straightening work to do with the GHDs. I went last week and had a lovely conditioning treatment and from Friday until today (when I've washed it again) I had proper non frizzy hair. T'was marvellous....

Products wise, I use frizz ease serum and moroccan oil, tresemme heat defence spray, and have tried various shampoos etc. I dry my hair (but CANNOT properly blow dry it myself AT ALL) and then do a load of straightening with my GHDs.

So, what I would like, is some tips. Anything gratefully received! Products that may work for you, styling tips, ANYTHING.

I am just so fed up of it being such hard work and then just ending up tying it back

Apologies for the inevitable typos - typed on my phone and it won't let me scroll back to read it.

Thanks

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ClaudiaSchiffer · 19/12/2011 08:09

Brazilian Blow Dry - apparently marvellous.

Even Ritchie www.nicolerichie.com/2009/03/you-have-to-get-a-brazilian-blow-dry/ raves about it.

So obv must be wonderful.

ClaudiaSchiffer · 19/12/2011 08:10

Oh ARSES, I mucked up that link Nicole Ritchie looking all smooth and shiny shiny

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 09:46

Ah yes I was reading about this at the hairdressers the other day - has anyone actually had it done? Is it good? Worth the money? It was £180 at my salon.

Also it said it was suitable for 9 out of 10 types of hair (but I never got round to asking my hairdresser what the 10th sort was that it wasn't suitable for). Does anyone know?

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porcamiseria · 19/12/2011 09:50

cant you go lighter and shorter? this is what I did, then i let it dry naturally and then its 10 mins to straighten it

i think you need to really invest in a good shorter funkier haircut

hevak · 19/12/2011 09:58

It can damage your hair, especially if you colour it - so definitely check with hairdresser!

I have similar issues and I have started tying it back, looking at YouTube for inspiration. I actually find it much more practical and also glamorous (when I get it right! Grin )

It's an alternative anyway! On phone so can't link to YouTube unfortunately.

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 09:59

Mmm yes, I have toyed with the idea of going for shorter hair, but I was scared! Confused

I was worried that if I didn't like it it would take for ever to grow again, but also that if it was shorter it would have less weight so might be more frizzy?

Also, if it's short I HAVE to find the time to dry it EVERY time I wash it - there's no fallback of just tying it back. So, for example I don't know what I'd do after taking DS or the new baby swimming when there's no facility (or time!) to do my hair?

I also struggle to figure out what would look nice on me as I've had long hair for such a long time iyswim.

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hevak · 19/12/2011 09:59

Sorry - the Brazilian blow dry can damage your hair - that wasn't very clear!

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 10:03

Sorry, cross post Havec. Now other ways if tying it back would be very handy. I literally have it down and 'straight' (ha, well straight ish) or just pulled back into a frizzy ponytail. I'd love some new ideas to tie it back in a way that makes it look like my mum didn't do my hair to go to school!

If you get a chance and are near a computer later I'd love some links, or even just some terms to search for? Smile

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 10:03

Sorry hevac not havec - couldn't see through the frizz curtain Wink

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hevak · 19/12/2011 10:03

You sound more and more like me Grin

Yy - not having short hair, it's a pain in the neck to style, at least when it's past your shoulders you can quickly tie it back.

I'll watch this thread with interest... Thanks for starting it OP!

Emmac50 · 19/12/2011 10:10

I have curly very curly hair so frizz is a big problem. Avon do a product in an orange bottle and sorts it out. I swear by it. I've been using it for about a year now and you put it on it lasts for 2-3 washes and it costs about £5 I then put mousse on after. It works for frizzy curly and straight hair. Best of luck x

mrsobriain · 19/12/2011 10:13

I know exactly what you mean, I have fabulous hair for about 48 hours after the hairdresser then back to the usual, frizzy mess that is my crowning glory. Sorry no solutions here although I have been using tresemme naturals for the last couple of weeks and am noticing a difference - softer hair, easier to manage, still get the frizzies, but not as much as before. I will be watching this thread....

wideawakenurse · 19/12/2011 10:13

You could try using a really powerful hairdryer like a Purlex to cut down the styling time, they are supposed to help the hair dry without frizz too.

I was once advised by a hairdresser to make you that when you wash your hair, you literally massage your fingers into the roots very lightly and let the lather just run down the hair shaft to help with frizz.

hevak · 19/12/2011 10:15

Hmm, I'm flying ourt on holiday tonight and on my phone til then!

How to explain... I tie mine up into what I (well. my mother!) calls a French twist or French knot.

If you search "hair updo" on YouTube quite a lot comes up (some too fancy for everyday).

I've invested in some seriously good bobby pins/hair grips and I use my hands to smooth my hair back into a low ponytail (at the nape of my neck) and then twist it around and around (but down, if that makes sense?) and then as I keep twisting I start pulling it "up" and I then turn/fold the ends of the hair under the twisted hair (hmm this really makes no sense!) and then stick loads and loads of pins in it.

I found it felt quite loose to begin with(used to tying it up with tight elastic bands, or ballet buns from when I was younger) but it actually stays up really well. I always carry a few spare hairgrips in my bag and I find the advantage is I can take it down and put it back up really quickly! I did have to persevere, it took me a while to learn how to do it quickly (and perfectly the first time)!

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 10:17

Ha! Mrsobrain - I have been using tresemme naturals shampoo for the last few weeks and thought it was worse! I was going to get a different shampoo today to see if that helped! I've used various different tresemme ones for a while though.

I did wonder if the current extra frizz was another wonderful side effect of being pg ConfusedHmm

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 19/12/2011 11:42

Emmac50 is this the Avon stuff?

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Emmac50 · 21/12/2011 06:19

yes it is. I used to be an Avon Rep and sold it like hot cakes to be honest that was the only product that kept me afloat as an avon rep (not the best sales woman in the world!!). I had loads of bottles left over so i'm sorted for another year i think lol

Fluffycloudland77 · 21/12/2011 16:38

Have you tried john friedas 3 day straight spray? I find it very good.

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 21/12/2011 17:17

Tired it - still frizzy Sad

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 21/12/2011 17:22

I think I have product resistant frizz ConfusedHmm

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LesserOfTwoWeevils · 21/12/2011 20:07

You could try the Curly Girls method. it entails not using shampoos with sulphates in them (which strip off the natural oils) and mean you need to use conditioners with silicones (which weigh down your hair but also seal out moisture).
With the Curly Girl method you focus on hydrating your hair?possibly to the extent of using conditioner to wash it, instead of shampoo.
I've been doing it for a couple of months and now have much curlier but far less frizzy hair.
You can find out more about it here and here.
Some of the people on the Naturally Curly site are obsessed with their hair, but it's not complicated and you can work out your own method.

LesserOfTwoWeevils · 21/12/2011 20:13

Oh, and there are amazing before-and-after pictures here.

Cybbo · 21/12/2011 20:15

does putting serum on it and sort of scrunching it dry relieve the frizz? Are you really keen on having straight hair? Or could you embrace the curls?

iliketea · 21/12/2011 20:20

Is your hair frizzy and fine? I had terrible trouble with frizz and when i last went to the hairdresser, he suggested using
volumising shampoo and conditioner and a volumising serum and not using my ghds except a couple of times a week. He reckoned that the frizz gets worse with over straightening and using too much product. I honestly thought he was insane BUT I followed his advise and my hait has never been so healthy looking. I use the naked range and an osis volumising serum and have had minimal frizz since my last haircut - hairdresser has changed my hair life!

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Biscuitsandtinsel · 23/12/2011 17:56

Cybbo - I've never found a way to get frizz free curls either SadConfused. I would have to straighten to get rid of the frizz and then recurl - which is just too hard. I've never figured out how to properly curl it without it just turning into frizz as soon as it was brushed or exposed to weather!

Other than that I would love gentle wavy curls Smile

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