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My review on "ColourB4" for removing colour build up in particular reds.

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TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 15:45

Some of you (FellatioNelson, Alouisereg etc) might remember me banging on about red hair etc during recent threads. Basically since November last year I started going redder and redder in the hair, first at the hairdresser and then at home (it seemed like a good idea at the time)...

I got sort of tired of it sometime in February and decided to colour over but of course the red was shining through...I went to the hairdresser to have highlights and she said I had so much colour build up and layers of colour all she could do was some nice red slices (which I did like to be fair and let her do)

Anyway, I did worry about how I was going to one day not be red anymore! Its a bloody hard shade to cover over without it peeking through and the thought of growing it all out didn't really appeal.

In the end I decided to use ColourB4, available at Boots and Superdrug. I think its a relatively newish product, not everyone has heard about it. Stripping out colour in a salon generally involves bleach or bleach baths - very bad for the hair, it alters the structure of the hair, though generally it survives. But this product is different in that it is a hydrasulphate, and shrinks the artificial colour molecules of permenant and semi-permenant dyes.

I was slightly worried it would dry out my hair but my alternative for lightening up significantly would involve so much bleach that I felt I had nothing to lose and it had good reviews online.

So I bought 2 boxes of ColourB4 Extra Stregnth. (About £12 from Superdrug). I bought 2 boxes because I have long hair, didn't know if it would cover my whole hair (it did, easily) and/or whether I would need to use a 2nd box due to excessive colour (I did, and you can use them one after the other, up to 3 in a row if you need to)

So I did that last Thursday. Took ages, lots of rinsing (you basically apply the product to dry hair - it stinks a bit, like hangover farts, but not strong, just feint) - wait an hour, rinse rinse rinse (for about 13 minute in all) then dry and review the results.

After the first it had killed my dark brown colour build up and a lot of the red, but was still a dark ginger with a pink hue on the bits that had been bleached so I went for the 2nd box.

After rinsing all that out it was a quite strawberry blonde but with stong ginger tones. Most the pink hue had gone.

You can't colour with a semi permenant or permenant colours within 7 days, they say, in case any remaining molecules re-oxidise. So I threw a Nice n Easy Temporary colour (6-8 wash) Medium Brown over the ginger to tone and cover it. (Needed 2 boxes of this, they are not huge). This left me with a quite pleasant light warm brown which I could live with in the meantime.

I got ansty yesterday (after 4 days) so did a strand test with Nice n Easy Light Ash Brown. This is quite a boring colour but it kills ginger dead - it has an almost greeny undertone to it (sort of, anyway). I applied this to a gingery strand. It didn't reoxidise and it killed the ginger - it far exceeded my expectations!

So this morning I washed the remaining 6-8 wash out of my hair and coloured it with the Nice and Easy Ash Brown.

The verdict - my hair is now a very light natural brown colour - no major gold undertone, so it killed the ginger, its not red, but its not dark either - its the lightest my base colour has been in years.

The idea is that I will soon have some highlights put in and be a subtle blonde for the spring or summer. I never would have achieved this without stripping all the dark chocolate and red tones from my hair.

My hair is soft, shiny and bouncy, does not feel dry, and I am really happy with it as a base colour for my blonde.

I would highly recommend this product to anyone. If you have colour build up (even blacks and dark browns) and have been wanting to go lighter for ages but hairdressers have fobbed you off due to the difficulty of doing it without turning you ginger, or if you have done the red thing and are now over it, this is the product for you.

Hope this review has been useful for some.

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withagoat · 08/03/2011 15:46

it takes AGES

i liek it

withagoat · 08/03/2011 15:46

( and lol at good old nice and easy 118)

Nagoo · 08/03/2011 15:47

Thank you.

I am currently the owner of some bright fushia maternity leave hair, so nice to know this works for when I go back to work.

Nagoo · 08/03/2011 15:49

Also tatty , if you use the purple shampoo for blonde hair it will keep you more ashy and less gold :)

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 15:52

It sure does!

Lol at Nice and Easy 118. I never thought I'd end up using a Nice & Easy for my permo colour - the marketing is so unappealing! I think of it as a very, well, middle aged brand.

But when it comes to knowing where you are with the colour and what it does, they are great. Very straightforward labelling. You know if its gold, ash, light, or dark...none of this "Havanna Breeze" or "Truffle delight" bollocks. It does what it says on the box!

I'm dead impressed how it killed off the gold and I now am thinking I could use their medium ash blonde on my roots after highlights to lighten my base shade a touch more and actually not have a ginger glow.

We shall see!

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TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 15:53

Thanks for the purple tip Nagoo - I'm an ex blonde (from about 10 years ago anyway!) so familiar with that trick, and may well get my hands on some. I've heard the Lee Stafford Bleach Blonde shampoo is quite good though if anyone has any recommendations feel free to share...

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mippy · 08/03/2011 16:06

I've been dying my hair red for 12 years, so I'm dubious as to whether this would strip out the colour - I wonder whether stripping then dying red again would be worthwhile when I go from the bold red to a more natural shade in a few years.

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:11

Depends a bit how long your hair is Mippy and what brand you use - do you use XXL? These contain silicone and if you use GHD's the silicones can melt, and silicone damage can be very hard to remove. So can "cuticle staining" which is what Directions and the vegetable dyes can do on bleached hair.

But if you just use a Red box dye, do your roots and run it through at the end, and you have even mid to longish hair, it should remove it.

Bear in mind that most people end up with light ginger hair after doing this - even if you've been dying your hair dark brown or black, the peroxide in box dyes lightens your hair considerably (though not enough not to be ginger, generally) and once you remove the actual colour particles, you are left with this ginger tone.

But my experience is that you can go back to even quite a light non reddy or gingery brown by using this product and then the right kind of permenant colour on top. Its like starting again really, for me, because I have no colour build up and no red tone to deal with.

It genuinely doesn't damage the condition of your hair or alter the structure so you have nothing to lose by trying it.

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TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:16

Here's what it removed for me:

Some kind of permenant red the hairdresser put on, which was quite subtle, over my chocolate brown higlighted hair back in November

An full application of Garnier Herbashine Ice Mahogany Brown

A full application of Garnier Herbashine Red Mahogany

2 Root touch ups of Red Mahogany

A full application of XXL "Real Red" (and I use straighteners, so there you go)

A full application of Loreal Casting Cream Gloss Mahogany 550

A full application of Garnier Herbashine Ice Mahogany Brown (to cover all this red when I decided I was never going to get my ideal shade...

I then had slices put through (bleach) at the hairdresser that she toned with an orangy red

I then got bored of them as they started to fade and put Directions "Rose Red" through my entire hair (its nearly purple!) to give it a red gloss and reddify my slices

Feck me, written down that looks really bad and I can hardly believe it!!! I'm surprised I have any hair!

Anyway, its all gone, my hair is now light natural brown and shiny, soft and lucious!

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Nagoo · 08/03/2011 16:23

tatty I give it 2 weeks Hmm

I spent so long trying to get the red out of my hair, and then I just felt so shitty and depressed at being normal I'm back where I started! Grin

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:26

Haha

I think I will "feed" that boredom, but I'm going to channel it into going nice and blonde for the summer, rather than going down the red route again.

I've learned my lesson about colour build-up though - I didn't realise you could get to the point where even bleach would do nothing much for you. That scared me - highlights have always been that "get out of jail free" card for me if something looked a bit strong or dark or whatever.

Thing I hate about reds is the way they just wash out so quick and the colour bleeding...if you break a sweat at night you wake up to a stained pillowcase - texas chainsaw massacre in the shower after a dye job...etc etc.

I wouldn't rule out having some warmth added in the festive season in future. I'd dabbled in this in the past at the hairdresser, but it never got to the point where I had to be committed to it and live with it - I suppose they know about colour build up and stopped that happening on my behalf, for which I am grateful! But I've definitely learned my lesson...

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1234ThumbWar · 08/03/2011 16:27

I had a thread on here a little while ago when I did mine. I'd had a variety of red shades over the last couple of years when I was growing out highlights. I used the colour b4 and it got rid of the lot even the last colour, which was a very deep plum. I was so impressed with seeing my real colour for the first time in years that I wasn't entirely convinced that it was mine. However it's been a few weeks now, my hair grows fast and there's no difference at the roots, so the colour I have is the real me.

I had it cut today and the hairdresser was impressed with how even it was, she'd expected it to be patchy. I have long hair and had forgotten to get two boxes, so I was very careful when I put it on, but I'd say that one box is enough.

I'm a convert too.

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:28

Nice one Thumbwar.

Are you quite fair? If you have a brown base colour I think a lot of the box dyes do lighten you enough to be ginger.

If you are lighter to start with, I think this is less of a problem?

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TerrorFirmer · 08/03/2011 16:31

Hmm, I've been wondering about this ColourB4 malarkey. Reckon it could get rid of 15 years of Darkest Brown?

And if you're quite grey underneath, will it take you back to grey? Cos I quite fancy that.

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:35

Apparently it wont expose grey that has been exposed to peroxide - more of a yellowy tone.

There's never 15 years of darkest brown, unless your hair is down to your ankles, my dear.

My hair is halfway down my back, and my roots are the same sort of colour as my ends, so if it removes colour molecules, it removes colour molecules.

You might need 2 boxes though, like me, and I'd advise extra strength not the standard one...

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TerrorFirmer · 08/03/2011 16:36

It's pretty long! Disclaimer - I am not Liz Jones Grin

mippy · 08/03/2011 16:36

Tatty - it's a bob just now. I mostly use L'oreal, but have used Directions (years ago so may have all gone), XXL (fucked up my hair) and Boots/Superdrug own brand. I did go for six months without dying it last year for medical reasons but not all of it grew out. I tend to do my whole head with the dye rather than the roots and then ends because it's pretty short and fades fast. Natural colour is the shade of unpainted concrete.

Red feels like my colour now, but I think there#ll be a point when I want to do it more subtly. If it weren't so high maintenance I'd love to vegetable-dye it again.

brimfull · 08/03/2011 16:39

I used colour b4 and was really impressed , was suicidal after a disastrous diy job that left me with nearly black hair. Left me with gorgeous colour with reddish tinge which was lovely.
The standing in the shower for ages to rinse was well worth it.

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:44

Mippy - if you have a bob, and want to go more subtle, or natural red, or just want to remove some build up to make your dye job more "true" and less influenced by what lies below, go for it.

It really doesn't damage your hair, if its dryer at all (maybe slightly straight after?) I think its as much from all the washing and rinsing than the product itself, nothing a decent moisturising conditioner doesn't sort in one go.

See how you go, if you need to scale it down a bit, its way more reliable than bleach, I'd say.

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1234ThumbWar · 08/03/2011 16:44

Oh yes, I went for the extra strength too. My natural colour is brown/auburn so I'd expect it to be a bit ginger-ish but I don't think it's made any difference to the natural colour.

Having said that I'm going to stick in a semi-perm colour to cover a few greys.

TattyDevine · 08/03/2011 16:46

Terror Firmer - my friend is doing her "Darkest Brown" bob which looks nearly black this week. I'll let you know how it goes via updating this thread.

You are long, so if it takes her one box, you'd probably take two.

Hers is dark, "darkest brown", looks black, I think the numbers on the box are about a 300. So that's pretty dark.

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TerrorFirmer · 08/03/2011 16:49

Good-o - thanks Tatty :)

CMOTdibbler · 08/03/2011 20:38

I was really impressed with it too - I'm on my way back to my natural colour (varies from pure white to grey) from dark browny red

Boilable · 16/03/2011 20:40

Oh good grief it takes FOREVER. And it smells like a tramp's gusset. BUT - I now have light chestnut brown hair after years of old-hag black. Never thought I'd get it out.

CMOTdibbler · 16/03/2011 20:48

The smell is vile isn't it ! DH was not at all impressed.

I'm amazed it got all that black out for you though

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