Having a fringe cut in and how too muss up very straight, fine hair.

[FerminaUrbinoDaza]

Two totally different questions really, but not worth two threads...

After fantastic advice from MNers I want a fringe and I want it now. Not any old fringe, but a particular one. But, I'm a total wimp with hairdressers and the only one I trust is a looooong way away and pretty much inaccessible for me ATM.

I'll be a couple of months before I can see him.

So, should I just go to a hairdresser here? I'm worried that they'll want to do more too me than just cut in the fringe, they usually do. I don't actually need a haircut ATM, but apparently my hair is a great pleasure to cut .

I think I could dare to get the fringe cut in by a 'strange' hairdresser but no way would I be happy with them doing my whole hair. Do you think they'd think I was totally deranged very strange to ask for just a fringe? Would they agree and then hack away at the rest anyway?

And, on a slightly less neurotic note, how can I make my hair less neat and smooth looking? Products? It's long, layered, totally straight and fine. No volume but not thin.

I Don't use anything in it ATM. Just wash, condition and let it dry. I've tried hair wax (DP's) in the ends f the layers, to little effect.

Can't help on the fringe front, but I have very fine hair, lots of it. Sounds similar to yours, with no volume.

Product does not hold in it, but at my last hair cut I got a product by Bumble & Bumble, called Sea Spray or something like that. The effect is as if you've been for a swim in salt water. Put it through your hair before drying it. Product sticks to it, as it kind of makes your hair a bit rough. It's the only thing I've tried that keeps product in my hair.

I've had just a fringe trim loads of times.

I am sure they'd cut a fringe and not a whole cut if thats what you ask for when you book it. They'll charge accordingly imo.

JeMeSouviens - Sounds great, the sea is the only thing that ever sorts my hair out, but ?26.00 for 125ml .

They say it contains salt, does it damage your hair?

princessProud - hadn't thought of that...

when it's wet tie it up in a scrunchy type thing and let it dry like that, then take it out and shake it all about :)

curling tongs/ghds etc, to create a few curls or interesting bits?

I'd wait until i could get to my trusted hairdresser.

Theres meant to be a new hair product for fine hair, its a powder - osis i think.

Here Schwarzkopf Osis Dust It Mattifying Powder, texturise with a matt effect.

Great, you're going for the fringe

I have had a fringe cut many times; just ask on the phone.

You could always try good ol' Jane Birkin's tip of rinsing your hair with coke; I couldn't find a reason for it, but I suppose it would certainly 'muss it up'.

Did the sock bun work? It made my frizzy/curly hair poker straight

I am/was hairdreeser before dcs and have cut many fringes without the need to restyle the clinents hair.

I've tried all manner of volume/thickening stuff.
Nothing made as much difference as having highlights/colour, it transformed it.
Made it physically thicker and also look thicker with a good cut and a few layers (with fringe)

Thanks for the replies, I think I'm on the way to a plan. But, the more tips the better, if anyone else has any ideas.

I'm going to try rinsing with coke, using salt water spray. Also another tip I found elsewhere. was volumising mouse in wet hair, towel on pillow and sleep on it. If none of those are any good I'll see if I can find the Osis dust stuff or the Sea Spray stuff. I'm used to it feeling all silky, hopefully it wont have to feel to horrid to look OK

It really is going to be months before I can get to my proper hairdresser, so, after much nail biting I've booked myself in at a salon here for Wednesday . First thing in the morning so I don't have too long to chicken out worry about it. He'll just have to sort it out next time I see him, if it's not quite right.

tethers - The sock bun thing has been a bit f a non starter all round then. I had high hopes of it too. As a bun it just slides out, like everything apart from a pencil does. I seem to have too many layers to get it rolled up properly for curling, but I'm going to give it another go. Gah.

Both DP and my mother agree that you've solved my hair with the idea of that particular fringe. But, the proof is in the pudding.

I was in Boots earlier and found strange things by Lee Stafford.Check out his website

Beach Babe sea salt spray
Day after spray
Matt stylee matt fat powder
Big fat healthy hair shampoo and conditioner

I was tempted to buy the day after spray but got distracted by escaping toddlers so couldn't read the details!

Thanks for that Morag, much more like my price range. I was googling to see if it was available here (am not in the UK) and found this recipe for Homemade Sea Salt Hairspray. Definitely going to try that!

Off to the hairdresser tomorrow morning

Back from the hairdressers and thrilled with the fringe . I gave precise instructions and showed her photos and she did exactly what I asked for. Which surprised me somewhat TBH.

After I'd finished I went to the chemist to get some bits and bobs for the homemade salt spray and lo and behold they had the Lee Stafford one. Which was also somewhat surprising as I could find no trace (on google) of it being available over here. So, I treated myself, 'twas cheaper than getting the bits and bobs to make it myself. Obviously a false economy but, why not. I never buy stuff for myself.

Just wanted to let you know about another salt spray that i use which is great, if you need another option at all.It is called GOSH salt of mine saltwater iget it in Superdrug about £4 i think,but i see you're not in the UK so not sure if it is any help!It is really good j have very fine hair and it gives texture without being sticky

Thanks baybay

Do people find the salt sprays drying after a while?

I'm definitely going to try the salt spray recipe I found on line, just treated myself to this one as a one off. I like the idea of being able to tweak it to give more or less hold and add extra conditioners/oils to stop it knackering my hair too much.

FUD i have used that spray for a couple of years and it hasn't dried my hair out yet and i use it most days.However i think i might give the homemade recipe a go when it runs out!

Any chance of before and after shots?

I have fine very straight hair and every now and then cave in a get a fringe. What sort of fringe do you have?

What does the salt spray actually do?

i spray it in my hair after i have washed it while it is still damp and then rough dry it or leave it dry naturally.It gives me volume and texture, but doesnt look like i have any product in and it makes it easier to style.
My hair is quite short in a bob and it means it can look messy but nice IYSWIM if i dont use it then it can look quite flat.If i spritz it on dryer hair it gives me more volume.
Can you tell this is one of my favourite finds ever!

Well bumper, seeing as you so kindly sent my your crib sheet, before and after photos now on my profile . Let me know when you've seen so I can take them down again sharpish.

The salt spray seems to just roughen the hair up a bit, like it is after a day on the beach without swimming in the sea IYSWIM. Glad to hear the it isn't too disastrous for the hair.

Thanks fermina! Looks fab, I have the same problem as you where my hair just kind of hangs around my face, so sometimes I get a fringe cut to 'open it up' a bit as the hair dressers usually put it.

Problem is when I get a fringe I usually then have to Do Something with it, whereas currently I can wash and go without it being too hideous.

Am 36 weeks pg so need low maintenance hair. Your hair doesn't look that straight though, is it the cut or have you done something to it?

It doesn't look that straight because (in both photos) it's just been released from a bun, that gives it a slight wave for about 1/2 an hour. It's actually totally straight.

I've got two very young DC (under 3) and almost always wear it up in a bun, 'tis just too hot and floppy otherwise. I only ever wash it and let it dry on it's own. I'll blast it with a dryer in an emergency but certainly never blow-dry it IYSWIM. No time and no inclination either TBH.

The reason I needed to do something with it is the same as you say, when it's down it just hangs. Also it was looking a pretty shitty up because my hairline is a bit scraggy. The idea is that I should just be able to but it up without it looking uncared for and wear it down without ending up shoving it behind my ears which really does look awful on me. A squirt of that salty stuff on towel dried hair and a good rub seems to mess it up enough that it doesn't look perpetually lank without actually being any work. The layers (have had them for ages) really come to life with the salt spray too.

Bugger. I'm now worried that I look like a total numpty with my hair up with this new fringe. Gah. Can't tell if it's because I'm not used to it or because it actually looks awful.

I bet it looks great up, a fringe tends to give a more interesting shape when hair is up. Without a fringe I look a bit 'Croyden facelifty'

lol. yes, me too!

I forced my mother to come on skype and she says it's OK. I suppose it'll just take a bit of getting used to

Taking notes here because my hair is exactly how you describes your, Fermina. I've had a soft side-swept fringe before and loved it -- like Bumperlicious said, it almost looked best when my hair was up, because there was more interest to ponytails and buns with zero extra effort. This thread has made me want to get it cut back in! What kind of fringe did you get?

Also, I need to know, even if it doesn't actually work -- what's a sock bun?!

Should have Googled sorry . I get the sock bun now! Any reason for using that rather than one of those spongy doughnuts?