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How do you deal with the constant barrage of criticism from the ex?

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WornDownByItAll · 24/01/2010 08:52

Every single thing that DP does is criticised, birthday and Christmas presents are ridiculous or a waste of money, his child apparently hates me, not enough money is paid, the food he feeds his child during contact is not good enough etc etc.

She of course is a perfect mother and the reason their child is lovely is all down to her and how much of a great job she does as a mother.

DP tries to be polite, doesn't antagonise her and looks after his child during contact very well. But there are only ever texts and emails pointing out that he hasn't done something, and effectively must try harder until he can meet the ex's unreachable ideal of parenting that she expects from him.

His communication with her is reasonable, measured and open. Her's are spiteful, critical and controlling.

I had no idea what I was getting into with this and although mostly I try to understand the difficulty she must have with having to share her "baby", at the moment I feel like I have no ability to either be reasonable or even angry. I'm worn down by the constant negativity, her exclusion of DP from his child's life and criticism of everything he does and would like it to all just go away.

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WornDownByItAll · 24/01/2010 08:54

When it's really bad I don't even feel like I can truly get help on here as I'm concerned that the ex will find my posts and that will cause even more trouble (hence the namechange)

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KaPe · 24/01/2010 11:09

I don't know the exact situation you are in, but maybe I can help with some insight from "the other side". I am very much stuck at the moment with all the tasks that concern DD9, because her father can no longer share all tasks given the fact that he has a new stepfamily (his words, not my assumption).

Ideally, we (just like your DP and his ex) should sit together (maybe in mediation) and communicate (and put into writing) our expectations. Agree who does what and when, agree rotas, etc. Your DP should make it clear that when it is his turn to do something, then HE will be the one scheduling it and taking the lead. Therefore, something might not get done straight away, but maybe a few days later.

By all means they can agree on "nutritional guidelines" for their child and try to stick to them as much as possible. 5-a-day is reasonable and (mostly) achievable, demanding and analysing the menu for the entire contact time is outright controlling.

As for presents ... we actually only managed to do it one year, but whenever DD mentioned she wanted something we put it on a list (DD did, as in a wishlist). I later scanned it and emailed it to her Dad and my parents. Whenever something was bought from this list, we notified each other. She got what she wanted (obviously not all of it), nothing was bought twice, and she actually played with her presents for quite some time (as opposed to parking them in a corner of her room after 5 minutes).

Have they ever tried mediation? We did twice and it failed, but I know many couples who benefitted from it. Maybe the feeling of having a little input (as opposed to full control) when her child is not with her will pacify the ex to the extent that you can actually enjoy the time with his daughter peacefully?

ChocHobNob · 24/01/2010 12:05

If you know that the food you are feeding your stepchild when they are with you is not doing them any harm and the presents are appreciated by the child then I would adopt the attitude in texts of "thank you for letting me know your feelings but (stepchild's name) is happy and healthy so I don't see a problem at the moment".

It doesn't sound to me, by your post OP, that it is anything actually serious that she has concerns about. (Of course, we're only hearing one side of the story but I'm writing in reply to your post alone) As long as you are not feeding the child a rubbish diet or something which could cause the child illness then she has to accept that she can't control what your partner does in his contact time.

We had a comment this week from DSD's mother that they "do not feed her that". There are things that she feeds DSD that we do not give to the children but it's something we have to accept and so does she. My husband would never dream of telling her what she can and cannot feed her own daughter (unless of course it was harmful to her welbeing).

The problem is, no-one can change her attitude and if she's set on being very critical and negative about everything all your partner can do is try to ignore the comments and get on with it. Easy to say I know.

How does your partner feel? Does it get him down too?

I would try to limit any contact and let her know that you wont be entering into petty arguments about presents that she deems "ridiculous" and you will only communicate with her over issues that are necessary.

If you were buying presents which were totally unnecessary she might have a point. But if it just doesn't meet her expectations there's not much she can do about it. A gift is a gift.

WornDownByItAll · 24/01/2010 19:25

Thank you both for your comments. I'm afraid I can't put too many details which would make the situation clearer as I don't want to be identifiable in RL. DP's child is still quite young so is inevitably quite dependent on DP's Ex, and also DP when it's his contact time, and I think this creates added complications which might not occur with an older child who is able to express their own opinions clearly (clutching at straws here as I'm sure other issues will raise their head at that time!).

I've discussed with DP how he (and I) might be able to deal with the current criticisms and I feel that at this stage it is worth trying to engage with his Ex and ask for her suggestions and ideas on how to go forward with particular matters that concern her. I know that it's unlikely we will ever be friends but I find the thought of all the current conflict continuing for the next X amount of years massively depressing. DP has tried asking his Ex to attend mediation and she flatly refuses.

I do live in hope that by making some effort to be reasonable and communicate with her then one day she might just realise that the animosity isn't worth the effort and none of our lives need to be so hard.

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Surfermum · 24/01/2010 22:38

We were in the position you describe. Dh and I could never do anything right in dsd's mums eyes. If she needed new shoes and we offered to buy them we were saying she couldn't afford to look after her own children. If we didn't offer we weren't supporting his child.

One year we gave the dates we wanted for the summer holidays, she changed them and insisted we had a certain week. No problem for us, we just changed the holiday. On return she yelled at dh on the doorstep that we had ruined her youngest dd's birthday (not dh's child) as we'd taken her sister away and she'd missed it! She clearly forgotten that we went the week she'd insisted we had!!

So we just accepted that we would never do anything right and just remained pleasant and polite towards her. I stayed well in the background as my mere existence seemed to wind her up (and I hadn't been the OW or anything). We just left the door open for her to start building bridges with us whenever she was ready.

And it did work. It took a few years, but eventually the animosity lessened and eventually she started to talk to me. We just had to wait for her to be ready. I always took the long term view, that it was important for dsd the 3 most significant people in her life were able to get on - so although her mum had behaved appaulingly to me and dh at various times, there was nothing to be gained by holding grudges.

Oh and when she did start talking to me she told me that dsd had never gone home and said anything bad about me, and that all her behaviour had been her stuff and nothing to do with me - she would have been like she was regardless of who dh had married. I thought that took a lot for her to say to me and I really appreciated it. I must say I did despair at times of what the future held - what dsd's wedding would be like, whether we'd be able to be at her 21st, stuff like that, but things did get better, so I hope that gives you some hope.

WornDownByItAll · 27/01/2010 21:22

Thanks Surfermum, it's helpful to know that the situation might not always be as bad as it is. It does give me hope.

I've calmed down a bit since Saturday and I can see the situation a bit more rationally now. I also find it helpful to vent a bit on here as just typing it out tends to be therapeutic.

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clea75 · 03/04/2010 06:04

Hi,
I have been in an almost identical situation for just over 5 years. I have one stepchild, and met my partner when he had been separated from the mother for 7 years, so most definitely was not the Other Woman.
It has been one of the most difficult things I have ever had to deal with. Really, I think that people who have not experienced the harassment of an ex that can't move on have no idea of how bad it can be- so first off, I know how you're feeling!

Our situation is still not perfect (I'm writing this at 5am, unable to sleep because I'm stressing about the latest nonsense to do with summer holiday plans!!!) but our situation has improved greatly due to my fiance and I setting some very firm boundaries.

Firstly, accept that she will never change. All you can do is change the way you react to her. I can't stress how important this is.

Secondly, insist that he goes to mediation with her and that they work towards a clear,all-encompassing, mutually agreed, written parenting plan. This will be hugely beneficial to the child and the adults involved (including you!) will have a very clear sense of their respective responsibilities and boundaries.

After 2 1/2 years of putting up with constant arguing, criticism, late-night phone calls, changing of contact visits at the last minute, demands for more money etc etc, I found a family mediation service, which my fiance attended with his ex.(She, of course, didn't know that I had anything to do with it!)
While, again, the results weren't perfect it had a hugely positive effect on my life and, most importantly, that of my stepchild. We now have a structured parenting plan that, for the most part works. And the effect on my day-to-day life has been positive. For example, the mediator recognised that the parents were unable to talk on the phone without an argument ensuing, which my stepchild would often overhear, so now they communicate by email, using the phone only in emergencies. This has meant that i no longer have the intrusion of repeated phone calls at any time of day or night, and having to listen to my partner deal with them in my home. My life is much more peaceful!

Which brings me on to my third, and most important point. Take a step back and protect yourself.
As much as you love your partner and stepchild, the conflict between him and his ex is his past, his baggage, his to deal with.
Of course you want to be supportive of the person you love! But many men are so relieved to have someone "on their side" after years of dealing with a difficult person that they can over burden their new partner. That was certainly true in my case.

He doesn't have to tell you everything.
For example, do you really need to know about the critical, unpleasant and untrue things she says about you? Do you really need to know that she thinks his child hates you?!
I now have a rule that I only want to be informed about things that directly concern me- ie dates of visits, changes in the financial situation, my stepchild's welfare while staying in my home.
For example, when I recently got engaged (which my stepchild was really pleased about, by the way) I knew that the ex would have something unpleasant to say about it, but I told my partner that I never, ever want to hear any of her opinions either on my engagement or our wedding. Why should I let such a wonderful, positive event be tainted by someone else's unhappiness and jealousy? What she thinks about it is irrelevant so I choose not to hear it.

While you are still embroiled in his conflict with this woman you are both stuck in the past- his past. You must look towards your future together. If you know that you have a good relationship, that he is a good father and that the child has a happy time in your home that is all that matters. What she thinks about Christmas presents is just so much hot air!

Well,I feel better now anyway- writing here is quite therapeutic, isn't it? I hope this is helpful in some way.

I'm going back to bed!
Clea

talie101 · 05/04/2010 13:43

All situations are different and there are always two sides to a story.

My exh likes to portray me as the 'bad' one to his new wife. I leave them well alone and grin and bear things that really wind me up when the children come home but sometimes I do feel the need to send a text to that affect (we aren't communicating at the moment - not my choice).

He pays maintenance but being a single parent on a low income I struggle to manage. Always send the children decently dressed in the only clothes they have and all that I can afford. The only trouble is they come back covered in grass stains, mud, pen, food - you name it they're covered in it and on occasions I haven't been able to get the stains out of their clothes - hence ruined and have to buy new! I've even had to buy new shoes because they were trashed, which is something I just can't afford to do! He is wealthier than me and I've asked nicely if he would buy some 'play' clothes so it doesn't matter but to no avail - to him and her I'm just making a 'scene' and being darn right awkward for the sake of it!

So in affect both sides can get the rough end of the deal.

I also believe (wherever possible) that agreement should be made to both have similar, if not the same, sets of rules and boundaries at both houses because this lessens children playing parents off against one another and causing unnecessary arguments. Stability/routine for the child is paramount and therefore, I feel, important for both sets of parents to work together.

Exes (be it mother or father) who wont listen or feel the need to keep on getting their own back for the situation give us decent exes a bad name! We all need to learn that it's about the welfare of the children and NOT about revengeful adults!

Good luck, hope your ex can sit down with his ex and amicably resolve some of the problems - at least you can say you've tried even if it doesn't work out.

If only ALL adults could honestly and openly talk with their ex partners and come to an amicable agreement for the sake of the children - what a lovely world it would be!

prettyfly1 · 09/04/2010 23:32

God tallie that would be great, but you only have to look at the boards here to see how different peoples views on parenting are and how inflammatory it can get.

OP, I think the advice to refuse to hear any of her critism and maintain your distance is best - hard, but best. And whilst he is in your and dps care, whilst respecting mum is important, she doesnt have the right to dominate parenting choices, so if something is REALLY unreasonable, you and dp can and should do it a way you feel is more appropriate, but it is up to your dp to find a way to make sure this is explained to mum - do not leave the child to do it for you (I am sure you wouldnt but I know some families who do this and it always shocks me a bit).

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EMS23 · 12/04/2010 13:49

talie101 - that thing with the clothes makes me mad for you!

I'm a stepmum and I don't send the clothes home until they are washed and ironed and any stains properly removed.
To be fair, it started off with my DH's ex dictating that I had to wash and iron all the clothes which annoyed me at first but on reflection I could see her point and in practice it makes sense anyway. It's made easier for us in that my DSS has plenty of clothes so if I can't get it all done for Sunday, I can keep them back and DH will drop them round when done or they go back on DSS's next visit.
I just think it's terrible that they send you back ruined clothes.

jonesy71 · 21/04/2010 12:35

this clothes thing made me laugh - i'm glad i can laugh about it now!!

it is interesting to hear the stepmum/bio mum stories re the clothes.

i am the stepmum of over 10 years, who made sure the DSC went back to their mum sparkling, even though the condition they arrived in was never too clean!! (on reflection maybe she was in the habit of sending them in their old gear before i met their Dad because he probably wouldn't take care to keep them clean)

if their clothes were stained or torn (as we found them) i would work on the stains and make repairs during the weekend to be ready to send them back pristine.

anyway after years of doing this i finally twigged that she was selecting items for them to wear to get the renovation treatment from me!! DER!! what a mug!!

the eldest step even brought a favourite hoody to me one weekend with a stain saying 'mum said you could probably get this out'!!

in my attempts not to be criticized by her i missed her trick,

have to laugh really.....

EMS23 · 21/04/2010 12:47

yeah, that is a bit rubbish but in some ways, kind of funny that their Mum actually deferred to you on that skill!

AnitaBlake · 21/04/2010 15:17

Clothes are such a mental subject in step situations! We aren't to clean anymore of DSDs clothes as 'there's no point in you keeping them for a whole week' despite the fact we send her back in clothes she adores, and she quite obviously isn't dressed in while she is with them! It's mental!

Unfortunately the mad ex is simply a fact of my life now, she hasn't attacked me for months now, but I can see all that changing quite soon. We have DSD for 24hours a week, unless there's something more important going on in her 3yo life. We're hoping to increase this quite soon, but can't see the mum agreeing, despite our loss of contact so that she can send her off on holiday with her Grandma (mum will be at home getting drunk), we really want to take he away for a few nights, and why the hell not?

I'm used to being attacked by the mad ex now, I'm a precious little princess, but fat and ugly too lol! Meh, it could have been so easy......

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