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Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 08:34

2 teenage children stay with dad/stepmum 3 nights per week. If mum needs to change these days, they always have to be ‘swapped’ (dad won’t just have them an extra night). Dad/stepmum had twins a few years ago and since then teens have mentioned feeling as though she has changed towards them. Recently mum has been going through some major life stress and has needed to leave her home, asked dad to have kids during week nights so they can stay in school/ do activities and she will collect them at the weekends (taking over the weekend day they’d usually stay with dad/stepmum too). Dad agreed but stepmum called mum shouting about them having 4 children and dad being unable to cope under stress and lots more which was basically just attacking the mum’s character. Mum has always been polite and respectful of stepmum but had noticed being ignored etc when she would say hello over the years. No idea why other than stepmum judges mum because of history with struggles/conflict with others.
dad has always told children his home is theirs and they can stay whenever they like as now they are older and can look after themselves. But stepmum has disagreed on these occasions because it messes with her routine I.e she wants to go to bed early although teens stay in their rooms anyway.
should also mention for the past few months dad has done the majority of after school activities because mum has physical disabilities and was unable to keep up with them. Stepmum has been resentful of this although apparently unaware of mum’s disability. That was something else she was shouting at mum about. Mum very upset both at the character assassination and feeling as though her children are unwelcome at their dad’s house. Stepmum is resentful of help provided by dad to mum. Think there are some jealousy issues too.
WIBU?

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CandiedPrincess · 10/12/2024 09:32

I just cannot be at my home for the next week

So it's just one week? It didn't sound that way from your first post.

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:38

AnneLovesGilbert · 10/12/2024 09:32

Is the issue your living situation (break up?) or your disability? It’s unclear. Is there an end in sight for this change or not?

As I said, it’s a temporary arrangement, a week and a half. I am taking the children both weekends during this time.

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Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:42

CandiedPrincess · 10/12/2024 09:32

I just cannot be at my home for the next week

So it's just one week? It didn't sound that way from your first post.

Oh I see, yes I didn’t make that clear.
Still, me asking for this help aside. My children have been told they are welcome at their dads house whenever they want, including days they’re not supposed to be there (their dad has repeatedly stressed this to them and I’ve heard it) but stepmum has said it’s a problem this week. No one seems to be commenting on that. Funny that.

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habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 10/12/2024 09:44

Ahh a week ! Then if that's the case then absolutely no problem whatsoever. You need to be honest and open with ex and step mum and say it's just for a week or two weeks tops and all will be sorted before Xmas. That's completely different. I got the impression this could be months or more as didn't seem to have an end in sight. Be mindful though that these two weeks now up to Xmas may be difficult for ex and stepmum too because of the Xmas activities and sorting gifts etc

loveawineloveacrisp · 10/12/2024 09:49

SM should have a say on what happens in her house as it impacts her as well. Maybe she hasn't had the full story and is annoyed at not being consulted. You really do sound like you have it in for her with your snide comments.

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:49

habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 10/12/2024 09:44

Ahh a week ! Then if that's the case then absolutely no problem whatsoever. You need to be honest and open with ex and step mum and say it's just for a week or two weeks tops and all will be sorted before Xmas. That's completely different. I got the impression this could be months or more as didn't seem to have an end in sight. Be mindful though that these two weeks now up to Xmas may be difficult for ex and stepmum too because of the Xmas activities and sorting gifts etc

It was made clear from the start. I realise I could have been clearer but I’m trying to gauge whether it’s reasonable to tell children they have a home they can be at any time they choose, but when reality calls for it, it’s suddenly an issue. I’m upset for my children about this.

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Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:50

When I say it was made clear from the start, I meant to them. I know it wasn’t here.

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habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 10/12/2024 09:54

I see what you're saying and the children do have a home at their dads they are there 50% of the time and are welcome whenever but you have to realise that there are two other children who matter too.

Why do you feel sad for your children? They are at their dad and stepmums 50% of the time anyway.

I'm assuming your going through a hard time and that's why your not coming across great rather than this being your personality. But come on op you want everyone including your children to chop and change on your command and your ex or stepmum aren't allowed an opinion

loveawineloveacrisp · 10/12/2024 09:55

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:50

When I say it was made clear from the start, I meant to them. I know it wasn’t here.

So you have no idea how it was relayed to the SM and dad. Teens are notoriously difficult at relaying messages. We often get a garbled half story from DSS which bears no relation to what the mum has actually said. Maybe you need to communicate clearly with your ex.

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 09:57

I would advise the mum to only communicate with the teenage children’s father. A settled routine is fairer and better (imo) so avoid making changes, if at all possible.

The attitude of the step mum is outside your control. Personally I wouldn’t be interacting with her at all now.

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:59

They are there 40% of the time, his other children 100% of the time. If it’s a problem my children being there at other times, then none of us should have been told it isn’t.
As I said previously, if I had more children and they lived with me 100% of the time, I wouldn’t dream of telling my older children they couldn’t be. That’s the reality of the situation. Anything could happen at any time which would mean our children need to be with their dad full time and now I’m aware it would be resented, yes it’s upsetting.
If I had a partner who wanted to have kids with me and was happy to have those kids 100% of the time, but not my kids with my ex, that would no longer be my partner.
They are allowed an opinion, but those are mine and the heart of them is my concern for my children.

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loveawineloveacrisp · 10/12/2024 10:03

You're not listening to anyone's completely reasonable comments OP, so I'm not sure why you asked for advice.

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 10:03

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 09:57

I would advise the mum to only communicate with the teenage children’s father. A settled routine is fairer and better (imo) so avoid making changes, if at all possible.

The attitude of the step mum is outside your control. Personally I wouldn’t be interacting with her at all now.

I don’t intend to and I didn’t initiate this interaction. Any problems they have had, I’ve stayed out of. I’m happy to have my children home with me more and have offered this to them, but they want the arrangements to stay the same because of their dad and younger siblings. They are confused about why they’re being told they can be there anytime they want and it’s their home, but now it isn’t ok.

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Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 10:04

loveawineloveacrisp · 10/12/2024 10:03

You're not listening to anyone's completely reasonable comments OP, so I'm not sure why you asked for advice.

Because people also aren’t answering my very valid points too which I feel are the heart of the issue. I’m finding I’m just having to defend inaccurate statements.

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habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 10/12/2024 10:05

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 09:59

They are there 40% of the time, his other children 100% of the time. If it’s a problem my children being there at other times, then none of us should have been told it isn’t.
As I said previously, if I had more children and they lived with me 100% of the time, I wouldn’t dream of telling my older children they couldn’t be. That’s the reality of the situation. Anything could happen at any time which would mean our children need to be with their dad full time and now I’m aware it would be resented, yes it’s upsetting.
If I had a partner who wanted to have kids with me and was happy to have those kids 100% of the time, but not my kids with my ex, that would no longer be my partner.
They are allowed an opinion, but those are mine and the heart of them is my concern for my children.

It's probably not the case what you are saying though Op. it sounds like it's just sprung out of nowhere that plans have to change. Think of your ex turned around and said this to you instead but you had things planned and things booked and right before Christmas I'm sure it would take you a back a bit. Perhaps they need time to change their plans to accommodate.

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 10:11

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 10:03

I don’t intend to and I didn’t initiate this interaction. Any problems they have had, I’ve stayed out of. I’m happy to have my children home with me more and have offered this to them, but they want the arrangements to stay the same because of their dad and younger siblings. They are confused about why they’re being told they can be there anytime they want and it’s their home, but now it isn’t ok.

They need to talk this through with their dad, with your support if necessary.

StormingNorman · 10/12/2024 10:13

CandiedPrincess · 10/12/2024 09:03

I had to ask Chat GPT to make sense of this.

A mum shares parenting time of her two teenage kids with their dad and stepmum. The kids stay with dad and stepmum three nights a week. If the mum needs to change this schedule, the dad insists on "swapping" days rather than taking on extra nights.

The stepmum’s attitude towards the teens has seemed different since she had twins with their dad, and the teens have noticed. Recently, the mum has faced major life challenges, including leaving her home. She asked the dad to take the teens during weekdays so they could keep attending school and activities, with her collecting them on weekends, even taking over the weekend day they’d normally spend with dad. The dad agreed, but the stepmum called the mum, yelling about their family stress and accusing the mum of being a problem.

The mum says she has always been polite to the stepmum, even though the stepmum has ignored her over the years, possibly due to judgment about the mum’s past struggles. The dad has told the teens they’re always welcome at his house, but the stepmum has objected at times, citing disruptions to her routine, like wanting an early bedtime, even though the teens mostly stay in their rooms.

The dad has been handling most after-school activities lately because the mum has physical disabilities. The stepmum resents this, though she seems unaware of the mum’s disability. During the argument, the stepmum criticized the mum for needing help, which deeply upset her. The mum feels like her kids aren’t truly welcome at their dad’s house and suspects the stepmum may be jealous of the dad helping her.

The mum is wondering if she’s being unreasonable to feel hurt and upset about the situation.

I understood the OP fine. Maybe you could ask ChatGPT to find you a night class in reading?

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 10:16

This is exactly why I’m feeling defensive, because people are assuming there’s more to it and I’m asking for more than I am. I’m not. If I had 2 other children, run up to Christmas or not, then I’d be busy doing kiddie stuff anyway so wouldn’t be a problem having my other 2 kids around for a couple of extra nights. Especially since they’ll only have their younger 2 at the weekends now, not the older ones.
I’m childfree when I don’t have my children, it still wouldn’t be a problem having them during the week instead of weekend days. They are old enough to get themselves to school and entertain themselves in the evening. Really not that big of a deal.
I wrote on here because I genuinely wanted to see if there was any points I hadn’t considered, that would make my children not being welcome at their dads house, when they have siblings who live there full time, less upsetting. But I haven’t read a single one.
Mums and dads are always held to different standards and if this was a mum saying she can’t have her older kids more (especially temporarily) when she has younger ones to another partner who live with them full time, there’d be absolute uproar and people would be screaming “poor kids” “terrible mother” etc.

I’m leaving the thread now.

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Hayley1256 · 10/12/2024 10:17

I would just ignore the stepmum, if your kids dad has said it's fine then I would just accept that and anything else is between them. As for her been different to your kids since having twins I would explain to them she may just be a bit stressed and urge them not to take it personally.

harriethoyle · 10/12/2024 10:18

You’re leaving the thread because you didn’t get the usual stepmom pile on you were hoping for. Maybe time for a bit of self reflection?

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 10:24

I’ve carefully read through all your posts @Cherrycola29k and it seems that the crux of the problem is you’re upset that the stepmum isn’t being as accommodating to your teenage children as you (and they) had been led to believe (by their father) would be the case.

OK, so what can be done?
You can’t change her opinion, attitude or behaviour towards your children- that is between her and your ex.

All you can do is be supportive to your teenage children as they try to navigate where they stand regarding their father’s home. This is a discussion they must have with him.

When arrangements are agreed upon I would do everything possible to keep to a regular routine, and when you seek to make changes give as much notice as possible, which I’m sure you are already doing.

Best wishes xx

Cherrycola29k · 10/12/2024 10:26

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 10:24

I’ve carefully read through all your posts @Cherrycola29k and it seems that the crux of the problem is you’re upset that the stepmum isn’t being as accommodating to your teenage children as you (and they) had been led to believe (by their father) would be the case.

OK, so what can be done?
You can’t change her opinion, attitude or behaviour towards your children- that is between her and your ex.

All you can do is be supportive to your teenage children as they try to navigate where they stand regarding their father’s home. This is a discussion they must have with him.

When arrangements are agreed upon I would do everything possible to keep to a regular routine, and when you seek to make changes give as much notice as possible, which I’m sure you are already doing.

Best wishes xx

All noted. Thankyou for taking the time to properly read my posts and provide helpful advice xx

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habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 10/12/2024 10:26

Hope everything works out for you op

JingleB · 10/12/2024 10:31

Their father can say all the welcoming things in the world, but unless he’s agreed it with his wife as well, he’s talking out of his backside. Like it or not, it’s also her home and the home of their young twins.

It is also their home 100% of the time, not 40%. They don’t have alternate living spaces.

This is a DH/XDH problem. He needs to step up, communicate properly with his older two children and his wife, and make sure everyone is on board with what’s happening.

However, as you’re the one who is altering the “normal” custody arrangements, the onus is on you to ensure it is all sorted.