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10 year old lied about her dad, now we can’t see her.

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Humbledmum · 23/11/2024 12:19

Hello

This is my first post and I’m really needing some support.

Last week we had my partners daughters over for the night - They are 11 and 10 and our routine is they stay with us 2-3 nights per week on a set weekend rotation.

I have two older girls at home, who are at uni and sixth form. Two kind and chilled kids who have their own life and a great relationship with their father and step mum.

My partner and I have lived together for five years, he moved in with me and our arrangement with his children was agreed via a court order after difficult contact barriers with their mum.

His children are two lovely, and firey wild girls who are very different to how mine were at that age… They can be quite fierce and mischievous at times and can often (or always) be quite reluctant to taking any responsibility, as a member of the family, or for themselves. For instance, they will simply refuse to help out in the house by cleaning their room, or picking up their clothes, or brushing their teeth, or taking showers. They are very confident to say “no” and mean no!

Now that they are getting a bit older, it is not uncommon for us to pick them up from school and they smell quite strongly of B.O, or their hair is matted and greasy. Personal hygiene is one of the biggest battles we have with the girls, (and I say “battles” lightly, as you will understand in a moment)

(Before I continue, I’d like to just add that we have tried all kinds of gentle conversations about personal hygiene. We have bought lovely bath and shower items to encourage and tried to set a bath/shower and bed routine etc etc etc)

Anyway, so last week the 10yo was asked if she’d like to take her shower first, or second. She said neither and told us she’d had a shower yesterday at her mums (they don’t bath or shower at their mums and after he text to ask, she had told us she hadn’t)

Her and her father got into a bit of back and forth about not telling lies and his daughter started getting so angry with him, screaming that she hated him and he was a lier and everyone just lies to make her do things. He said “okay, take this up with your mum” and asked her to call her.

She then argued with her mum for about 20 mins, begged her mum to come and get her because she hated it here and she felt scared and unsafe, and when her mum refused she told her mum that her dad had grabbed her, threw her and really hurt her. This did not happen, but of course mum had no choice but to come and remove her and her sister from our house. I think I would have done the same had one of my children ever said this to me.

This is not the first time an extreme lie has been used to get mum to pick them up. There has been a few occasions where they have told mum we have tried to hurt them, usually after they have been in trouble for something.
They have also accused teachers and other kids of inappropriate behaviour in an attempt to get out of trouble.

This makes it really hard for us to ask anything of them. Because of their reluctance to do anything or take any responsibility, and their extreme efforts to get out of things, their father is quite terrified of their mum stopping him from seeing them. (Which has happened with her other children and their father)

Their mum has now said she doesn’t want the girls returning to our home as they feel unsafe here with us and she’s happy to take us to court if it comes to it. This is a regular threat, but you never know when she’s going to stick to it)

Please help. I don’t know what we are supposed to do. In this situation, and how to manage the girls when they are allowed back.

My home used to be such a calm and positive environment when my girls where growling up, but it’s so hard to maintain that in this situation.

Thanks for reading.

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chinup123 · 25/11/2024 09:10

I don't have any advice unfortunately but came here to say we are going through something similar, it hasn't quite escalated to your extent but I feel like we are all being held hostage by the words of DSD.

We used to have the issues with hygiene, tbh I just put it down to their age and we just kept on it until we have eventually reached a place where they now either voluntarily or with very little persuasion will shower etc but it was a battle.

Youngest DSD, also 10, her behaviour is just awful lately. DH and their Mum have differing views on discipline and DH is stricter and we have been trying to get on top of her behaviour. A few weeks back she was having an almighty meltdown and DH took away her privilege's and sent her to bed. When she went back to DM's she reported that DH was mean and had threatened her and other lies. DM threatened to withhold contact. But contact resumed as normal, we have 50/50.

That was a few weeks ago and since then DSD's behaviour is just as bad, worse now that she's learnt she can manipulate the situation. DH feels like he can't do or say anything, so she is just getting away with really poor behaviour and it is making the whole household uncomfortable. I am trying to keep out of the situation as best I can for fear of having accusations made against me.

We used to have such a happy house and now its so far from that it makes me sad. I'm hoping all that is needed is time and DSD will grow out of this phase she's in but it can feel quite hopeless. Tbh I have questioned the future of my marriage.

Sorry for lack of advice, but hugs as I feel your pain

BodyKeepingScore · 25/11/2024 09:38

LakeUtah · 23/11/2024 22:15

I wouldn’t worry about them coming over, they sound like horrible unhygienic smelly liars. Your house will be better without them around. They can get you and your DH in serious trouble.

The mum will soon get bored of them misbehaving and send them back around.

What a disgusting way to speak about children

Raineys · 26/11/2024 22:04

Supervised contact for the foreseeable future is the way to go.
How has this affected your own daughters?
It sounds like a very stressful tedious environment for them.

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