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DP vs DD, help!!

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Hssssss · 14/08/2024 23:02

I have a daughter (15) who I'll call M for this. My DP who I married about 5 years ago has a daughter (16) who we'll call C. Both girls get along really well, can't be separated mostly. DP and M have always gotten along considering C is mainly living at her other parent's house and only comes to ours maybe once a month. However, since DP and M rarely argue it means when they do it's BIG. It makes me so upset to see them like this as both have a very argumentative side. C on the other hand barely ever argues with DP - she's more shy/reserved. M has always been confident and extroverted and she's never afraid to speak her own mind and be herself which i've encouraged. Honestly, it's like two flames attacking each other and the fire just gets bigger and bigger until M is forced to apologise by DP.
DP has been so so helpful with M as they've known each other for 13 years now but M will see her biological dad a few times a month who are also very close.
I think it's a real problem that they may be too close in the sense that M might feel as if DP is trying to replace her dad (he does say that he's not a lot of the time if it does come up in conversation) but what do you think? Is it literally just two short tempered people having arguments and i'm being dramatic??

Just to explain a very recent argument to give you an idea: we had a family meeting to decide what we're doing tmrw as we're on holiday (all 4 of us) and we agreed on a small village to get lunch. DP suggested we wake up at 7am to get to the village by 9am but M did not take this lightly and suggested we wake up at 9am and get to the village by 11am. C stayed quiet (obviously) and so did I so it was back and forth. DP was very dismissive of M and shut her down whenever she tried to speak and he does this a lot. He has a sort of 'i'm the male, i'm the boss' mindset. M told him to shut up which DP told her off a lot for and i'm so worried that this relationship between them is getting really toxic, it's the smallest things that set them both off which ruins the whole miid for everyone else.
Anyway, DP said to M that she's just trying to show off to everyone and called her cocky and rude. And this is all whilst they're SHOUTING at each other.

It's become very awkward for everyone whenever this happens and it's getting way more common now since M has basically become an only child and I think that's difficult for her.
Please reassure me that this is normal or just call either one of them out, i don't care who i just need this to stop!!

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Hssssss · 14/08/2024 23:04

Hssssss · 14/08/2024 23:02

I have a daughter (15) who I'll call M for this. My DP who I married about 5 years ago has a daughter (16) who we'll call C. Both girls get along really well, can't be separated mostly. DP and M have always gotten along considering C is mainly living at her other parent's house and only comes to ours maybe once a month. However, since DP and M rarely argue it means when they do it's BIG. It makes me so upset to see them like this as both have a very argumentative side. C on the other hand barely ever argues with DP - she's more shy/reserved. M has always been confident and extroverted and she's never afraid to speak her own mind and be herself which i've encouraged. Honestly, it's like two flames attacking each other and the fire just gets bigger and bigger until M is forced to apologise by DP.
DP has been so so helpful with M as they've known each other for 13 years now but M will see her biological dad a few times a month who are also very close.
I think it's a real problem that they may be too close in the sense that M might feel as if DP is trying to replace her dad (he does say that he's not a lot of the time if it does come up in conversation) but what do you think? Is it literally just two short tempered people having arguments and i'm being dramatic??

Just to explain a very recent argument to give you an idea: we had a family meeting to decide what we're doing tmrw as we're on holiday (all 4 of us) and we agreed on a small village to get lunch. DP suggested we wake up at 7am to get to the village by 9am but M did not take this lightly and suggested we wake up at 9am and get to the village by 11am. C stayed quiet (obviously) and so did I so it was back and forth. DP was very dismissive of M and shut her down whenever she tried to speak and he does this a lot. He has a sort of 'i'm the male, i'm the boss' mindset. M told him to shut up which DP told her off a lot for and i'm so worried that this relationship between them is getting really toxic, it's the smallest things that set them both off which ruins the whole miid for everyone else.
Anyway, DP said to M that she's just trying to show off to everyone and called her cocky and rude. And this is all whilst they're SHOUTING at each other.

It's become very awkward for everyone whenever this happens and it's getting way more common now since M has basically become an only child and I think that's difficult for her.
Please reassure me that this is normal or just call either one of them out, i don't care who i just need this to stop!!

omg just realised how long this is, feel free to skip out the 2nd paragraph sorry!

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Starlightstarbright3 · 14/08/2024 23:13

Tbh what I got from the last argument … it was not a family meeting .

i don’t know a single teenager who chooses to get up at 7am to go to lunch nor would I .

A meeting suggests it is a group discussion - 2 people didn’t even speak dp doesn’t get the deciding vote - I have never found shouting my opinion at my teenager would make them more agreeable

WhyIhatebaylissandharding · 14/08/2024 23:19

Why did u and C stay quiet! 7am start for lunch is crazy. As is a family meeting to agree lunch.

If you and DH want to go for lunch just say what time you’re leaving if anyone wants to join you. That said if this was my DH trying to get to a village for 9 am he’d be going on his own.

Aquamarine1029 · 14/08/2024 23:24

DP was very dismissive of M and shut her down whenever she tried to speak and he does this a lot. He has a sort of 'i'm the male, i'm the boss' mindset.

You're the one who brought this misogynistic pillock into your daughter's life. That's the problem here. What a fucking prick.

Mushable · 14/08/2024 23:25

7am for teenagers on holiday? Madness.

Why didn't you try and sort out a compromise/input your own opinion?

What on earth are you going to do in a village from 9 am 'til lunch?

notapizzaeater · 14/08/2024 23:27

7 am on holiday - I'd be shouting at him too !

cupcaske123 · 14/08/2024 23:29

DP was very dismissive of M and shut her down whenever she tried to speak and he does this a lot. He has a sort of 'i'm the male, i'm the boss' mindset.

Do you think that's an acceptable way to speak to a young woman? Why did you condone his behaviour by staying silent?

M is obviously going to get angry and frustrated with being treated like her opinion doesn't matter because she's female. It's not acceptable for your husband to domineer women and girls.

Just because he has a penis it doesn't mean that he's more important than anyone else. You need to talk to him about his attitude and stand up to him.

Fluffyhoglets · 14/08/2024 23:35

notapizzaeater · 14/08/2024 23:27

7 am on holiday - I'd be shouting at him too !

This!
I'd maybe consider waking up at 8.30 at the very earliest - 7am is earlier than I get up to go to work!
Not surprised she shouted.
He needs to listen to other opinions than his own. Have you and C just learnt not to bother disagreeing with him to keep the peace?

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 14/08/2024 23:38

Sounds like he, as the adult, could do with looking at how he's escalating things.

But im curious why didn't you mediate? Does he have the final say when you disagree?

And it's holiday time so getting up at 7am for lunch is too early imo! So is 9am and that seems like a reasonable compromise.

Talipesmum · 14/08/2024 23:42

It’s absolutely not ok for your DP to have an “I’m the boss male” attitude. I can see why if you are somewhere v hot, getting up early might be a good suggestion but you all need to agree not to be railroaded.

You’re not helping by staying quiet. M likely feels she’s the only one standing up to being railroaded. You should be setting an example of reasonable discussion where possible. It might feel like tit for tat when M and your DP are arguing but it would be good to model some more reasonable discourse and she shouldn’t think she has to shout to get her voice heard.

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 14/08/2024 23:43

Sorry but your DP is so far out of line. What's the point in a 'family meeting' if only one voice is allowed to be heard.

How on earth can you bear to sit and let your daughter be spoken to like that, especially by a man, given the level of prejudice she will already have unconsciously absorbed in terms of male bloody privilege.

I would be having a very serious conversation with DP and if he can't agree to make changes I don't think she should be forced to live with him. Yes they get on well at other times but this is almost worse as she will think that loving relationships with men also involve being squashed and bullied.

rainbowstardrops · 14/08/2024 23:43

If I mentioned to my children that they needed to get up at 7am to go to a village for LUNCH, they'd laugh at me!
It wasn't a family meeting if you didn't bother to air your views and your daughter was shouted down. I wouldn't be putting up with that.

elizzza · 14/08/2024 23:44

the fire just gets bigger and bigger until M is forced to apologise by DP.

DP was very dismissive of M and shut her down whenever she tried to speak and he does this a lot.

Please think about what you’re showing your daughter about relationships here. A man is dismissive of her and shuts her down whenever she tries to speak, and SHE is forced to apologise to HIM? And her mum sits there silently as if this is all a problem caused by two fiery personalities, when she should be saying “Please don’t speak to M like that, she’s entitled to speak”.

lunar1 · 14/08/2024 23:52

What on earth are you teaching your daughter to put up with in life?

Livinghappy · 14/08/2024 23:53

Si you and his daughter are conflict avoidants? If you don't find a way to have calm debate then you daughter is unlikely fo stay around once she has a chance to leave.

Your daughter isn't getting a good role model as there is no compromise or listening

SleepPrettyDarling · 14/08/2024 23:57

Wouldn’t you wonder why C has learned to be meek and quiet?

Mum2GirlSs · 15/08/2024 00:08

Why did you stay quiet? - you are an adult

Who gets up at 7am on a holiday for lunch?!

Your step child has learnt behaviour - keep quiet to not rock the boat with her dad - don't cause a fuss

"I'm the male, I'm the boss" wtf is this attitude? Is he like this with you? Do you let it slide?

Why would you be calling out your child?
Call out your husband!

Why should she have to apologise to him? He is an adult SHOUTING at a child and not hearing anything but his own self importance! He should be apologising to her

I grew up in a house where my dad was "the boss" and my mum pandered around him my whole childhood.
He now doesn't speak to my siblings / me and him have a strained relationship at best as I now argue back & don't take the "respect me as I'm an adult" line.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 15/08/2024 01:25

You should have said something to protect C from this dynamic too. You must have an opinion like you want to sleep in or there’s nothing to do in the village from 9:30 to lunchtime. You’re setting a bad example to C too - she’s been conditioning into shutting up and doing as her dad says.

M has always been confident and extroverted and she's never afraid to speak her own mind and be herself which i've encouraged. Honestly, it's like two flames attacking each other and the fire just gets bigger and bigger until M is forced to apologise by DP.
Is M always in the wrong ? You are not really encouraging M to speak her mind if she’s forced to apologise by your dp. Does he apologised first? Forced to apologise sounds like she’s not actually sorry - she’s saying it because she’s worn down by your partner. Things like this give your partner the impression that he is the man so always right and the women should always do as he says and apologise when they get it wrong.

DreamTheMoors · 15/08/2024 01:36

Who TF schedules anything at 9AM while they’re on vacay unless it’s a museum or gallery or castle tour?
But lunch in the village? 😂
Vote that dude off the island.

MrsKwazi · 15/08/2024 01:56

Your stepdaughter is quiet because she has been trained to be so by her bully of a father.

Why are you exposing your daughter to this??

Zapx · 15/08/2024 02:07

Could there have been a compromise? He goes at 9, M comes along later and joins for lunch? Can’t say I’m surprised a 15yo on holiday didn’t want to get up at 7?

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