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Step daughter feeling ill...is she bluffing?

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HolyJackaMoly · 31/05/2024 08:37

Sorry for long post. Not sure what I'm looking for from this...I think maybe an independent viewpoint as I think the whole family are too emotionally involved to be rational?

Context: Married to DH who has 4 kids, 3 to one partner and 1, an only child (SD), with his ex (nothing in the breakup to do with me - she cheated). I have 1 grown up child. The older 3 step kids all have young kids of their own. I have been the single mum facing an awful step-mum with my son's dad, therefore have determined to not-be-that-woman when being an SM to DH's kids. I must have done OK as I get on fab with the 2 older ones and their families.

History: We had an issue about 3 years ago with the youngest SD (now 13), who made up a complete barrage of BS about DH telling school and her mum that DH was regularly hitting her (or at least said he'd hit her and didn't correct them when they jumped to conclusions about the frequency). He's never laid a finger on her. Cue a whole host of shit hitting the fan CAMHS involvement, social services, me taking time out from work to attend meetings, the lot. When everything blew over I gently explained to DH (perhaps too gently) that she needed a sitting down and a hard chat about how making up lies like that can ruin lives and get her (and others) into serious trouble. I was constantly given excuses that it was 'too soon', 'not the right time', and eventually 'too late now'. There was always some excuse offered for her behaviour to justify it.

Flash forward to the last month...this youngest SD has been complaining that she's getting dizzy spells. I actually suffer with these myself so can relate and
recognise symptoms. Unusually for her, she demanded dad takes her to the GP
(not mum) - of course he was delighted to be involved, but I was curious as to
why her Mum didn't seem to think it was important enough to go (or she could have just been busy and grateful of the support), but when I ask, I just get attitude as if I'm challenging why he'd want to attend.

Last week she was with her Mum, and at one point she phoned DH to say she was off to the hospital as she'd blacked out in her room. She said she'd stretched, started videoing herself on her phone and next thing she knew she was waking up on the floor. She said she was videoing herself as she felt dizziness coming on. DH assures me she has a bruise from falling but I’ve not seen it.

This weekend the full family were at ours. Everything was going great, until she was pestering DH for something when he was busy so eventually he shouted. Less than 30 seconds later she said ‘I feel dizzy’, having been fine the whole day so far. My older SS thinks she’s doing it for attention, my oldest SD and her hubby think it’s all lies too. DH even took SD to see an ex-nurse we know, leaving his other family behind in the house (SS said “Why, what’s the point, she’s already seen the Dr?”.). Whatever the case, it got DH’s attention and she then said she wanted to go home (playing on her phone all the way – something I can’t stomach if I feel dizzy). During the trip home DH mentioned that we have private health cover. When the youngest SD got home, it was all of 5 mins before DH got a ream of unprompted shitty texts from her Mum ‘How dare you offer private care, she’s been checked out by the Dr and they’ve said nothing is wrong, we have our own private care so if we decide to use it we will use ours’. If I were Mum I’d be thanks, but no thanks, politeness costs nothing. Needless to say he came home in a foul mood which affected the whole family (they were still with us).

Last night DH returned from work, again in a foul mood as there’d been another black out and he’d had ‘words’ with the ex. They’ve been split up over 10 years and they still cannot act like adults (both in their 50s for context, so not youngsters). SD had been to hospital again and has a scan booked in a couple of weeks and a consultant in a month or so. Again he’d raised the private care issue to bring the test forward and was given verbal abuse and a refusal. Something just does not add up with me:

  1. SD can predict when these ‘episodes’ happen, yet seems to be highly reluctant to let Mum or anyone else video her. You’d think DH would welcome the idea himself but seems to side with SD all the time (she wouldn’t possibly lie!). He thinks her videoing the event is sufficient (oh look, a falling camera).
  2. Episodes only seem to happen when she’s alone in her room and filming herself
  3. Nothing has ever happened at school or anywhere else, given that she seems able to ‘make’ them happen if she wants to demonstrate it to the Dr for example
  4. If SD is an only (and very spoiled on both sides) child then why would you refuse private treatment? Her Mum is def not an ‘NHS way or no way’ person, so it’s not that

I’ve tried to explain to DH that mum is there 24/7 and possibly knows something she’s not telling him. Obviously he’s worried sick.

I’m torn, I don’t want anything to be wrong, but equally so something doesn’t smell right with this. The logical side of me thinks she’s doing it for attention, but then I think no one would be that cruel and manipulative as to put their family through that. Then I have a reality check remembering she’s done it before. And if she’s lying again then where will it lead next? False accusations of someone in the family watching her get dressed or worse? What happens when she starts having sex and gets rumbled? Will she accuse the boy of pushing her into it?

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Catchlock · 31/05/2024 08:42

Can you not just take her to the GP and let him decide?

Meganmeccano · 31/05/2024 08:42

There is no way of knowing, but, clearly, she wants or needs attention. Can she spend some more quality time with her dad and generally be reassured by everyone in the family that she is loved and valued?

wizarddry · 31/05/2024 08:45

I don't see why dad can't take her to see a GP. My advice to you is to just let it go and let the two of them do what they think is best for their child. I think it's odd she has to film herself in an attempt to get people to believe her

Marblessolveeverything · 31/05/2024 08:47

It could be anything or nothing. I wouldn't be taking a chance on any dizzy spells. If she is faking well it points to her needing something.

If she is compliant to engage with medical staff I would suspect there is something medical going on.

RandomMess · 31/05/2024 08:54

Perhaps the approach with DH is that she could be exaggerating because she needs more one to one and time with him. That she's getting older and needs some extra hands on from him all the time and not just when she's feeling unwell.

🤞

RandomMess · 31/05/2024 08:59

Also dizzy spells can be common in teens often to do with hormonal changes especially if they have low pressure. I would be looking up some evidence on non serious causes to reassure him it's likely to be nothing and the Drs will rule anything sinister out.

Illpickthatup · 31/05/2024 13:13

I'd leave them to it. Not your circus, not your monkeys. If she is faking it and DH and taken her for several GP and hospital visits and used private health care then he's wasted his own time. As long as the private healthcare use doesn't affect your premium or is something you need to pay towards. Let him crack on. Same with the ex, she needs to just let him do what he wants in relation to this. Again, if she's faking it it's his own time he's wasted not hers.

GKD · 31/05/2024 14:18

. Then I have a reality check remembering she’s done it before. And if she’s lying again then where will it lead next? False accusations of someone in the family watching her get dressed or worse? What happens when she starts having sex and gets rumbled? Will she accuse the boy of pushing her into it?

You are worried about when a 13 year old starts having sex?

stayathomer · 31/05/2024 14:26

shes only 13 and horrendous as her accusations were, she was 10. She is so young and whether it’s made up or not she needs someone to remember that, remind her of that and just be there, maybe that could turn all this around

HolyJackaMoly · 31/05/2024 16:56

wizarddry · 31/05/2024 08:45

I don't see why dad can't take her to see a GP. My advice to you is to just let it go and let the two of them do what they think is best for their child. I think it's odd she has to film herself in an attempt to get people to believe her

People have believed her, she's just obsessed with TikTok which is where I suspect the footage is eventually going

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HolyJackaMoly · 31/05/2024 16:57

RandomMess · 31/05/2024 08:54

Perhaps the approach with DH is that she could be exaggerating because she needs more one to one and time with him. That she's getting older and needs some extra hands on from him all the time and not just when she's feeling unwell.

🤞

I suspect you're right

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HolyJackaMoly · 31/05/2024 16:59

GKD · 31/05/2024 14:18

. Then I have a reality check remembering she’s done it before. And if she’s lying again then where will it lead next? False accusations of someone in the family watching her get dressed or worse? What happens when she starts having sex and gets rumbled? Will she accuse the boy of pushing her into it?

You are worried about when a 13 year old starts having sex?

I'm worried as to where lies can escalate to and lead to and whose lives they can ruin, because if this is lying, then I can guarantee there will be no consequences

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NoseNothing · 31/05/2024 17:05

GKD · 31/05/2024 14:18

. Then I have a reality check remembering she’s done it before. And if she’s lying again then where will it lead next? False accusations of someone in the family watching her get dressed or worse? What happens when she starts having sex and gets rumbled? Will she accuse the boy of pushing her into it?

You are worried about when a 13 year old starts having sex?

My thoughts exactly.

pikkumyy77 · 31/05/2024 17:06

She is either really sick and/or becoming a budding fantasist and hypochondriac. Both can be true. Reward good behavior and ignore bad—so just encourage dh to give her lots of 1-1 at times when she us not dizzy. When she is feeling sick tell her that only the mother goes with her to centralize the medical care. Be very bored and uninterested in the tik tok fantasy behavior because it will kead her to very unhealthy behaviors even if she is really sick as she will exaggerate to monetize the attention.

SandyY2K · 01/06/2024 03:22

No need to video her. I absolutely wouldn't be videoing my child who was ill.

Marghogeth · 01/06/2024 03:33

13 year old who has had a disrupted home life is possibly lying about her health for attention? And you're shocked? Back off, OP. Be a force for good or at least neutral in her life. She doesn't need an overly invested, suspicious, critical stepmother figure along with everything else at this time.

PrimalOwl10 · 01/06/2024 03:33

Why do you keep saying she's an only child? She's not she has 3 siblings is she not integrated into her fathers family or is she an outsider? You say you get on with 2 of the older ones what about the 3rd? She maybe attention seeking but does he spend one to one time with her?

Octavia64 · 01/06/2024 04:25

Dizzy spells could be almost anything.

Lack of food, fainting, stress, ear problems etc.

I'd be very reluctant to write them off as non-medical on the basis that she lied about something when she was 10.

Sounds like your DH and his ex really don't get on. I actually feel sorry for the poor girl.

StealthSpinach · 01/06/2024 06:42

SandyY2K · 01/06/2024 03:22

No need to video her. I absolutely wouldn't be videoing my child who was ill.

Sometimes, it is actually vital to videotape symptoms a child has. It is the only way of getting certain information that a specialist may need.

Mamadoes · 01/06/2024 06:57

My dd2 had a year or so of unexplained dizzy spells when she was 13/14 - she had loads of tests and investigations and the result was an unexplained dizzy episodes - the consultant said it was very common in teen girls and she would grow out of it.....it can be hard to understand but I certainly wouldn't jump to a conclusion that it's a lie.

wizarddry · 01/06/2024 07:41

HolyJackaMoly · 31/05/2024 16:56

People have believed her, she's just obsessed with TikTok which is where I suspect the footage is eventually going

Then her parents need to have a word with her about tik tok

HolyJackaMoly · 01/06/2024 07:50

PrimalOwl10 · 01/06/2024 03:33

Why do you keep saying she's an only child? She's not she has 3 siblings is she not integrated into her fathers family or is she an outsider? You say you get on with 2 of the older ones what about the 3rd? She maybe attention seeking but does he spend one to one time with her?

I don't 'keep' saying she's an only child, it's simply to show how the dynamics are. She's treated like an only child and the other siblings all think this is for attention. I just don't get why mum wouldn't try the private option as she is her only child (she has nothing to do with her ex step kids).

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Spirallingdownwards · 01/06/2024 07:51

I wasn't believed by my mum when I had pains that came and went and was dismissed that it may be my period about to start.

Fortunately for me I was staying at my much younger aunt's (age 24) one time when they became unbearable and she called a doctor out and I was immediately ambulanced to hospital for an emergency appendectomy. Luckily she hadn't been able to get hold of my mum who would have probably told her to ignore me.

I know its not the same but please don't just dismiss it as nothing. Maybe have a chat with her and suggest she keeps a diary of when the dizzy spells happen. Treat her like an adult you believe.

HolyJackaMoly · 01/06/2024 07:54

SandyY2K · 01/06/2024 03:22

No need to video her. I absolutely wouldn't be videoing my child who was ill.

If it's a physical uncontrollable thing you would. An ex boss of mine had a kid that started with really bad ticks/turrettes and it carried on whilst she was asleep. The only way to effectively get this across to the dr was to film her sleeping

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HolyJackaMoly · 01/06/2024 07:56

Marghogeth · 01/06/2024 03:33

13 year old who has had a disrupted home life is possibly lying about her health for attention? And you're shocked? Back off, OP. Be a force for good or at least neutral in her life. She doesn't need an overly invested, suspicious, critical stepmother figure along with everything else at this time.

They've been split up since she was 2. She does not know any different. I had a broken home. I never acted like this. It's all about whether that person understands right from wrong and experiences consequences when doing wrong

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