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CMS paperwork query

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Milkand2sugarsplease · 13/05/2024 22:25

Can anybody who pays child maintenance to an ex while having a child with a new partner confirm to me the information given to the ex about the other children - is the ex given just the number of children or are the children actually listed in the paperwork.

Genuine reason for asking as I've been advised by a solicitor, barrister and police to remain anonymous from husband's ex so just want to know the information she has about my children. I know she's given salary info and number of children, trying to ascertain whether she's given names....

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QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/05/2024 22:29

I don't think I was told their names. But I already knew them as DC had told me.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 13/05/2024 22:39

Thank you, I've just re read my OP and realised I should have been asking about people who receive cm from an ex who has other children, or responsibility for other children as far as the paperwork is concerned 🤪

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QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/05/2024 22:49

I knew that's what you meant. I can't be 100% sure the other children's names weren't on it, but I wouldn't have noticed as I knew their names. Won't your DPs child ever mention them to the other parent?

CandiedPrincess · 13/05/2024 23:01

She won't know anything. It will be basic info for the calculation.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 13/05/2024 23:15

It's a whole load of ridiculousness at the minute. DH ended up requesting written contact only for the time being because of the severity of the accusations exW started making - hence the sols, barrister and police advice to remain anonymous. The judge has allowed DH to use a PO Box address so she doesn't know where we are. She tried bringing my son into her warped ways so, at that point, I said I wanted nothing more to do with her so DH writes weekly but keeps me and the children out of it all. I know as the children grow up we'll have to figure out what to say to them but for now, I feel like I have to keep them away from exW.

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ZestofCoffee · 15/05/2024 13:51

They give their names and DOB. They give the ex absolutely ALL the information you give to them. They do not redact anything.

ZestofCoffee · 15/05/2024 13:53

It’s included in the calculation. They check the children exist by you registering them for child benefit (even if you don’t receive the payment). Every year they remove my kids from my dH’s claim and I have to “evidence” they still exist 🤦‍♀️

They share every penny of your OH’s income info etc. it’s a frightening use of your data and I cannot fathom how it’s legal.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 15/05/2024 23:10

We've both said that we can't work out why she needs to be given any information at all to be honest - surely it just needs to be that they have calculated x amount based on x's circumstances.

I get the breakdown for my ex husband and it tells me his income which I've no need, nor desire to know.
I asked what dh's ex would see about the children because of my new statement from my ex - that states the claim is for my son and when it says other children factored, it just says none as he doesn't have any more - so despite cms assuring DH that she didn't get any info about children, I wondered if her statement would read as 2 or actually detail the children's info.

Guess there's not a right lot I can do about it really though....

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ZestofCoffee · 16/05/2024 06:36

@Milkand2sugarsplease theyre incredibly hard to speak to OR write to. Could you get your solicitor to write a letter explaining that the names of the children must NOT be shared and detailing the reasons why? To be honest I think it’s £7 per week per child reduction so consider if it’s worth it.

and I agree re the sharing of data. Me and DH are quite private about how much we earn etc. DH’s ex tells everyone, so our MIL will tell us as she’s heard from exW. It’s awful.

atomicnotsoblonde · 16/05/2024 07:02

Mine just states exs income plus a deduction for 3 children. There is no detail about those children

Adidas105 · 27/04/2025 15:34

CMS will know exactly how much you earn if you're PAYE. They are part of HMRC and can get a deduction from earnings order without your knowledge or consent. If you challenge it, it will be heard at a tribunal, not a family court or county court. If you want to, ask for a 'mandatory reconsideration' of the amount you pay, if you're the paying parent. Quickest way to stop any crap is quit working and sign up for universal credit if you ex is being really nasty.

lunar1 · 27/04/2025 19:25

If you manage to have their names redacted, she can just ask her dc, it would e a lot of energy for something you can’t ultimately control.

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