Uni payments

[Mulcahy75]

Hi my hb stopped paying for his daughter at 18 after she completed a levels at college, now he's been told she's doing more a levels at uni does he have to start up payments again?

This.

It's awful that he won't support his daughter through Uni. Why doesn't he give her what he was paying in maintenance?

Then it's between DD and mum if she owes her rent or whatever

Just to say she will categorically not be doing A Levels at uni. Id say the first step would be to find out what she’s studying - both course and level and then you can see what’s required. Which is different than the moral decision.

Surely though she still paid towards some elements of your life though? Or did she chuck you out? It's shitty of a parent to just stop contributing anything financially as soon as a child turns 18.

Did she feed and house during uni holidays?

She’s trying it on saying she’s doing a levels. Child maintenance stops when they enter higher education, they need a levels or equivalent to get into uni so she can’t be doing those anymore! it’s completely unfair on the parent who’s had child live with them and step parent’s income is included so step parent has to start paying as other real parent stops. uni loans are based on there income and they are expected to financially support young person. Could he half the payment and send her that or at least £100 supermarket gift cards per month for example!

One of my uncles presented his kids with a suitcase for their 18th birthdays - you're an adult, over to you. Guess how much contact he has with them and his grandchildren now.

If OP's husband had ever been an equal parent, invested in his daughter's life and future, he wouldn't even be considering cutting her off while she's still in full time education.

He should support her
Full stop

I was in halls and lived with my Dad in the holidays until I got a shared place.

It's not shitty to not have bad luck and find yourself in a place where you don't have enough money. She couldn't lay golden eggs 🤷🏻‍♀️

Did she stop being his child when she turned 18? Or is your husband just a generally feckless father?

I think that legally he is done, morally he should still support her. I reckon her doing a levels is bollocks which goes to show the relationship is not good.

You don’t do A levels at uni.

if she is at uni she will be getting a loan based on the resident parent’s income. If her mum is low income she will be getting maximum loan and no one needs to contribute anything.

If mum (including any step parent) is mid-high income then mum is expected to contribute.

what I’d do in that situation is look at the amount he’d be expected to contribute if she were resident with him based on your family income and offer to meet mum half way.

Just for some context why doesn’t he see DD anymore, is this a new thing or has he never had a relationship with her?

I have never heard of a university offering A levels.

Funny though, if a together family can’t afford to fund a son/daughter through uni, it’s accepted. If a separated parent can’t afford it, then they are described as deadbeat. A shocking double standard.

I would ask for the proof of enrollment

Maximum loan is nowhere near enough to make parental contributions unnecessary at many universities. My ds has maximum loans and is at Oxford, the loan amount barely covers rent. We pay for everything else or he couldn't study there. We eat less and don't go out much. It's only for a few years, and he's our son so we want him to have the opportunity he's worked hard for.

It's clearly not the case that this father can't afford to contribute a penny. He was making maintenance payments until she turned 18; pull the other one.

She’s not doing a-levels at uni. To my knowledge maintenance continues as long as child benefit does, which is until the September after they finish full time non advanced education. That can be 19 if they repeat or even 20 depending on their birth date but not past that. If she’s at uni she wouldn’t be entitled to child benefit or maintenance.
Surely she would go through cms for it and they would inform yous and allow yous to pay. Unless he’s a very high earner and it’s done through court, but as you say you can’t afford to pay anything I’m assuming that’s not the case.

Surely the decent and right thing to do would be for the ex or daughter to send the proof of enrollment email along with a cover email saying "Hi Ex-Husband/Dad, DD/I've enrolled at X uni to do X qualifications. A financial contribution would be appreciated, you can pay direct to DD, here's her bank details. Thank you".

Loving all the responses that suggest OP should just continue receiving child support like her ex is begging her to take it but she's not sure ?!?!

I would imagine child support ends at 18 as that was my experiance, though would take advice from somebody saying its till 20 & persue it through legal means if it's not something you & your ex are aware of BUT many people don't go to university or take a year off to work & apply for loans if they dont have family help which sounds like what might happen to your daughter realistically

The whole secondary to university (especially with the leisure of doing a foundational year/extra A levels) with ongoing financial support from 2 parents let alone 1 is extremely uncommon for children who arnt from a pre-wealthy parental background & you will need to have a realistic conversation with your daughter about picking a specific career path she can study for & wether she can afford to go straight on to do it while also working or wether she'll need to defer unfortunately

Step parent income isn't included in any calculations. Grant funding at Uni is based on the income of the legal parent at the resident house only. In this case DM. Technically, maintenance stops once a child enters Advanced Education - that is degree level or similar. Maintenance would continue until 20 if studying at a lower level - and for more than 12 hours per week. I suspect DM has said she's studying for A-levels so maintenance payments continue as she's in full knowledge DH is about to stop making any. However. as PP said...I'm not aware of any uni where A-Levels are studied for as they're a requirement of entry.
Despite that, agree with all PP's who have highlighted that despite any technicalities over legally paid maintenance payments - university is a huge cost, with loans covering the bare minimum, if that. Why should DM provide support all on her own?
Even if you half the maintenance payment you were making, if you say you truly cannot afford it (which is odd considering you have been paying it) and give it directly to DD (not DM) this will help, which is what any parent should do...if they can.
DH can stop paying it to DM directly, but to wash hands of any support or responsibility entirely now she's older is awful. Would you be supporting this stance if she was your own daughter?

No you don't have to pay. Depending on her main household income she will get a loan to cover her course (I'm guessing it's an access course if not a degree) is she moving out ? She should get a mainstream loan to support her although it doesn't always cover all costs.
My ex didn't support our dd at uni. I gave them money towards food/expenses and they both got jobs for extras.
Really tho it's pretty poor to expect the mother to cover everything (there's cost of living for her too!)
I'd give some money direct to your dd to support her.

Most people aren’t actually answering the question that was asked, just ploughing on in with their opinion

You probably can afford it. Parents are expected to make up the difference between minimum loan and maximum loan.

My dad stopped paying maintenance when I turned 18 and his girlfriend wouldn't allow him to give it to me directly to support my university studies.
Not gonna lie, our relationship has never recovered.