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How can I ensure I stay in ex-SD's life?

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vtori · 06/01/2024 14:27

Last month, my partner (now XP) left me for someone else. We have lived together for 7.5 years, but we are not married. XP will soon find a new place to live for both herself and her daughter (SD). SD is 11 and I have been a parent to her since she was 3.5 years old. SD and I have a very close bond and, out of the adults in her life, I am the one with whom she spends the most time. During the week, I am responsible for most of the standard parental tasks (meals, school, activities, bedtime), and we often chat and play games together. When speaking to third-parties, SD will refer to me as her "dad" and she considers herself to be my daughter. I feel the same way about her. SD is the most important person in my life.

My concern, now that XP has broken up with me, is that I have no parental rights in relation to SD (I'm in the UK). Therefore, AFAIK, my continued involvement in SD's life will depend on XP's consent. SD wants to live with me part of the time during the week and be able to see me (or stay with me) on some weekends.

XP was initially in favour of sharing parental responsibilities with me on a flexible 50:50 basis. XP suggested that we have a schedule of one week on followed by one week off, depending on our work schedules and other commitments. I would be thrilled to have this arrangement. I desperately want to remain a parent to SD.

Unfortunately, in the few weeks since the break-up, XP has become non-committal about my involvement in SD's life. XP has told me that it depends on logistical factors relating to where she will be living (she's still looking for a place). This cooling-off has coincided with XP spending almost all of her free time elsewhere, presumably with her new boyfriend, leaving SD at home with me. When I asked XP if she plans to move in with her new boyfriend she was very dismissive of the idea, but that was a couple of weeks ago. AFAIK XP has not told SD about the new boyfriend, but SD knows that XP has overnight visits with someone.

Based on XP's reluctance to talk about co-parenting, it feels like XP is planning to form a family unit with the new boyfriend and that I am possibly facilitating that by looking after SD whilst XP is out. A new family unit would leave no space for me in SD's life because she still sees her biological dad every other weekend. However, I don't know anything about the new boyfriend. So I have no idea if he would be interested in being SD's parent.

I will continue to be SD's loving and supportive parent until she or XP say that I am no longer welcome in SD's life. What I would like to know from the other members of this community is whether you have any suggestions on how I could improve my chances of convincing XP that I should remain a part of SD's regular everyday life? Perhaps other step-parents have been in a similar situation and managed to persuade their XP to agree to a co-parenting arrangement?

OP posts:
Grilly · 06/01/2024 15:01

As you know, you have no legal rights to SD and contact will be at the whims of your ex. It’s likely that SD (particularly if she’s upset at the breakup and move) won’t be the most fun for the new boyfriend to have around. But I doubt you’ll get an every other weekend arrangement as then your ex gets no downtime with her child. Your best bet is to agree to whatever you’re offered now, and when SD’s a bit older, she’ll vote with her feet.

Consideringachange2023 · 06/01/2024 15:06

Agree with PP, try to stay as flexible and cordial as you can with XP, keep your opinions re her new life / bf / living arrangements to yourself and without being over the top jsut try to be reasonable, friendly and supportive.
hopefully XP will realise that her original plan is best for everyone and moving in with new BF isn’t necessarily going to be this ready made family situation.

Essentially do what you’re doing but be prepared for it not being a 50/50 situation. It’s only going to be a few years until SD is more than old enough to advocate for herself and will hopefully choose to see you often

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 06/01/2024 15:09

You sound like a lovely man. If she loves her daughter and enjoys her child free time (which is sound like she does) your ex would be totally stupid not to keep you in her daughters life and use your offer of free child care. You are the 'ex' of most women's dreams!

hellojelly · 06/01/2024 15:11

I think if you've lived with the child for at least 2 years you can (in the same way as grandparents can) ask permission of the court to allow you to file a petition for a child arrangements order. Usually this is between mum/dad but it can also stipulate contact between other people.

cutlery · 06/01/2024 15:13

You'll have to accept that the end of the day this was always a risk. It's why I never understand when people demand more and more of stepparents.

IKnowYouBetterThanThat · 06/01/2024 15:27

I would wait and see and don't push for any formal agreement just now as this could cause you ex to push back and reduce contact.

Honestly, your ex might be hoping for happy families but I'd be very surprised if the new boyfriend wants take over all the parenting you've been doing (and why should he!) so your ex is going to need childcare, you are offering it for free and the child knows and is attached to you. As long as your relationship remains amicable, she surely won't turn you down although 50/50 might be too much to hope for and you will have to accept whatever you get.

At 11, the child is also old enough for an option and I expect she will want you in her life.

Good luck.

Whattodo112222 · 07/01/2024 19:19

You sound like a lovely man x

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 08/01/2024 08:00

You can’t I’m afraid , so you need to focus on you and moving forward as best you can

DocOck · 10/01/2024 16:02

hellojelly · 06/01/2024 15:11

I think if you've lived with the child for at least 2 years you can (in the same way as grandparents can) ask permission of the court to allow you to file a petition for a child arrangements order. Usually this is between mum/dad but it can also stipulate contact between other people.

I think you can get an order, but I think you need to be have been married ie an actual step-parent.

HangingOver · 10/01/2024 16:16

Oh this really sad. Poor you. Poor SD.Sad

NewNameNigel · 11/01/2024 15:37

At 11 my DSDs were starting to make their own contact arrangements. She is reaching an age where she will be able to be left alone while her mum pops out - her mum won't need you for you childcare for much longer and you will be ditched. I would try and keep the relationship with DSD more like taking her for a dinner and doing other stuff with her that she wants to do rather than being her babysitter!

Please don't make yourself at your exes beck and call for free childcare. This will not end well for anyone.

Sodndashitall · 11/01/2024 15:46

I'd second the @NewNameNigel approach.
You can't secure any access rights as you are not a parent but you can be a great (and sound like you are) adult in her life. This is going to be tricky for her to navigate regardless of stbx bf situation. Dsd will be upset about losing her home and your support day to day. You can help her navigate this by being a loving adult, supportive ear and generally being available for her to come and visit or speak with.
She will express her opinions and is.old enough to have access to an ipad or phone to do calls etc. And hopefully you can retain this lovely relationship you have with her

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