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I don't know what to do.

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blogvlog · 23/04/2023 01:47

I am really struggling with our situation with my DSC.
They are aged 9 and 11.
This is a long one so apologies.
DSC were having 50/50 care between my DH and their mum.
I have always gotten on really well with my DSC and they were really happy and settled when DH and I eventually blended and got married last year. Everything was going along fine until around 18 months ago DH and his ex had a disagreement about contact and maintenance.
We have always paid for half of what the DSC needed to his ex and paid maintenance even though we had them 50% of the time. Despite paying for half of the DSC clothing etc they would often turn up for contact with clothing that was too small or not enough pants/socks/pyjamas and we were having to buy extras for them. Not a problem except they would take the clothing back to their mums house and often not return with it.
DH then suggested to his ex that they stop splitting the costs together and that we have school uniform and clothing for our house that we would pay for and keep here and she could do the same at her house. As we were having the DCS 50/50. She was really angry about this and also abut the fact that she changed her working hours to an ad-hoc pattern and then wanted us to have the DSC on various days/ times so she wouldn't have to pay for childcare, which we tried for 3 months but it really unsettled DSC.
The DSC were becoming more and more unsettled with this arrangement, especially as plans were often made at the last min and she refused to give DH her work schedule in advance so we could plan our time with DSC and my children which reside in our home full time.
DH discussed with his ex that this ad-hoc contact was not working for anyone except her so things needed to be discussed properly with a view to making a regular and consistent arrangement.
he suggested a week on/week off, 3 days on 3 days off, 4 days on 4 days off ( sorry to phrase it that way like work, but I don't know how else to articulate it)
Suddenly one evening she said the DSC didn't want to come to us for contact, both DSC had blocked him on their phones and when he phone her she said they didn't wish to speak to him. He would call round to her house to collect them and they would be sat in their jammies or be getting ready to go out somewhere and then say that they didn't want to come as they had already planned to do XYZ. He was heartbroken and contacted a solicitor who suggested mediation, which she refused to do at that time
She would call and text DH on occasions saying that she needed him to have DSC and he would go to collect them and they wouldn't be ready or say they had other plans. Often when DH called her to speak to them about coming over to our house she would ask them 'do you want to go to daddy's or do you want to do XYZ instead?'.
This went on for a bit and then DH again suggested mediation, which on this occasion she agreed to.
During this time the DSC became school refusers and due to some other issues in her home (most of which have never been explained to DH) the DSC became involved with social services, DH became aware that the DSC were being left home alone for periods of time and that they were on their gaming devices till 1/2 am and were refusing to get dressed and leave the house at all.
They attended mediation and DH suggested the consistent 50/50 contact with DSC and pointed out that she should be making them available for contact at the agreed times, she refused to agree to anything suggested by DH, said the DSC hate him and made suggestions that he was verbally abusine towards her. we were also made aware that she had made these suggestions to some of DH mutual friends and one of them warned DH to protect himself from potential accusations as she was looking for an opportunity. After 2 sessions she refused to attend and said it was a waste of her time. DH then went back to the solicitor to get advice and start legal proceedings. however, around 6 months ago DSC mum called DH and said that he needed to have DSC as she wasnt coping, within a week we had the DSC attending school full time and into a good routine at home.
It was not without its difficulties, we had screaming tantrums, refusal to get out of bed in the mornings and battles over the xbox etc for that first week, which affected my children emotionally, but we remained consistent in enforcing age appropriate boundaries, used rewards like 'screen time' and gave lots of support in the form of cuddles and healthy conversations, it really worked.
After a month she said that she wanted the DSC to come home, reluctantly DH took them both home and it was back to square one with them disengaging from school/ friends (except when gaming) and DH.
Social work just keep saying that they are 'working with' DSC mum and that the difficulties are due to 'differences in parenting' when the DSC don't want to come to our home, because they have to go to school, go to bed when told and get up when they don't want to.
One of our DSC even went as far as to say to the social worker that they didn't want to come to our home because ' daddy will kidknap me' and the other said 'daddy smacks children'.
There have been accusations from DSC that there has been physical chastisement in our home which is completely untrue and that we shout at them all the time which is also untrue. If anything they are treated incredibly gently as DH is frightened of shattering their fragile relationship due to the circumstances.
At Christmas they acted ungrateful and spoilt regarding their Christmas gifts that DH gave to them. All of our children had a £100 budget for gifts and both DSC said it was 'not enough' which really saddened me. Their mum spent close to £600 each on them, which I am not jealous about, rather sad that we are not financially able to come close to that and it is a subject that obviously drives a further wedge between the DSC and DH.
We are now in a situation where DH can only see DSC if he goes to her house, which put him at risk of being accused of something, she says that DSC don't want to see him and then in the next breath invited him over to her house.
Due to the accusations from DSC and the refusal of their mother to come to a stable contact arrangement, I have said to DH that unless he gets a court order for contact arrangements and has some sort of help from social work or another agency to help DSC transition between homes I am not happy about them coming to our house.
I am just really scared that they will say we have tried to either kidnap them or have hurt them in some way. Both DSC are know for telling lies about adults and have done so in the past about teachers and their peers all which has been proven to be untrue but just caused so grief for everyone concerned.
Both myself and DH work with vulnerable people and would risk losing our jobs should accusations be made not to mention the risk of social work becoming involved with my children because of it.
I really am scared to be around DSC and worry about what move their mother will make next. She is very good at a game that I really don't want to play and it is putting a huge strain on mine and DH relationship.
I think I just need some advice and a hand to hold, or for someone to give me a virtual shake and tell me if I am just being an unreasonable cow.

OP posts:
blogvlog · 23/04/2023 09:04

Update- I've had a terrible nights sleep and this morning before the kids got up I tried to talk to DH about it. He keeps saying 'so you don't want my kids here'. This really isn't true, I do want them here but just done right and with support. I just feel their contact should be an environment that is healthy for all of the children in our house and the adults involved.
sigh.
im so tired and tearful today. 😥

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clarepetal · 23/04/2023 09:37

Don't know what to say except this is shit. And you have both been brilliant. The ex sounds like a total prick.

hourbyhour101 · 23/04/2023 09:50

Ah op this is hideous. It's telling that DSC have been making up lies about other adults teachers ext and I totally believe you need to safe guard you and your Dc against these lies.

I would frame it with DH is that your children are at risk of DSC saying something and social services getting involved with you based on these lies. So you need a court order, it's not about you not wanting to see DSC. It's about safeguarding all the children.

I would also say it sounds like the ex is poisoning the children (poor kids having a mum like that) some family therapy wouldn't go a miss. Usually when a court orders in place this type of behaviour tends to settle (not always but mostly)

Sending hugs 💐 this is a shit storm

moonspiral · 23/04/2023 09:54

Oh this is such a hard read. It sounds like it was going so well until mum ruined her kids' lives.

blogvlog · 23/04/2023 11:40

hourbyhour101 · 23/04/2023 09:50

Ah op this is hideous. It's telling that DSC have been making up lies about other adults teachers ext and I totally believe you need to safe guard you and your Dc against these lies.

I would frame it with DH is that your children are at risk of DSC saying something and social services getting involved with you based on these lies. So you need a court order, it's not about you not wanting to see DSC. It's about safeguarding all the children.

I would also say it sounds like the ex is poisoning the children (poor kids having a mum like that) some family therapy wouldn't go a miss. Usually when a court orders in place this type of behaviour tends to settle (not always but mostly)

Sending hugs 💐 this is a shit storm

This is exactly how I feel, that I need to safeguard my children, myself and DH from this situation. To prevent any potential accusations from DSC and to prevent possible accusations from DH Ex-W that could have an impact on me and the children. I don't think that DH quite understands that if his Ex-Wor the DSC make an accusation that is taken seriously, he won't be able to remain in our family home until the situation is resolved. He keeps saying 'it wouldn't come to that' but I know from my line of work that it would.
Regarding the potential poisoning from DH's Ex-W, the fact that the DSC are saying weird things makes me wonder if their mum or others are telling them stuff. Eg one child said 'daddy smacks children' but when they were prompted by SW to say why they thought that, they couldn't explain why. A week later they had a huge elaborate story about how they apparently witnessed DH smacking my DD (4), even down to the detail of what time it was, what she was wearing, the room it was in, all very scripted. Our other DSC said 'daddy will kidnap me' but again when nudged by the SW they had no reasoning as to why they thought that. It is all very weird.
There's a lot more history of them telling smaller lies about what we have done/said in our home and when out on trips etc. Just silly things like claiming my children were bought things and they were left out or that my children were allowed to do XYZ and they were not allowed. DH often took them out for 1:1 time together and they would claim that this didn't happen or that he wasnt interested in them.
It is all very painful for DH, my thoughts are that the only way forwards now is via a solicitor as his communication between him and Ex-W is incredibly toxic and rarely productive.
DH is scared that I will resent him for using our savings to fight his Ex-W by the time its been dragged through court, CAFCASS and then potentially enforcement measures.

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Laughloveloneliness · 23/04/2023 11:48

It's gone past you not wanting his kids there and his defensiveness will be his undoing. I think you need to remain firm here OP and face the fact that you might have to separate to save yourself and your own kids. Because your kids WILL be targeted. You have put up with far more than I would have. He needs to own up to this mess and see his children away from your house at the very least.

Livinghappy · 23/04/2023 12:00

How long have you been together, just trying to understand the timeline.

Is your dh seeing the children at all now? Could they come to your house to visit, rather than stay over? I think I would trust that accusations won't get worse. If SW have already disregarded previous comments then it's likely they understand.

I do understand your fears however but for your relationship I think you may need to back your DH but then limit the time you personally spent with the dc.

blogvlog · 23/04/2023 13:36

Livinghappy · 23/04/2023 12:00

How long have you been together, just trying to understand the timeline.

Is your dh seeing the children at all now? Could they come to your house to visit, rather than stay over? I think I would trust that accusations won't get worse. If SW have already disregarded previous comments then it's likely they understand.

I do understand your fears however but for your relationship I think you may need to back your DH but then limit the time you personally spent with the dc.

We have been together for 4 years, living together for a year and married for 8 months.
DH sees the children if he goes to Ex-W house, or sometimes she will call him and say one of the DSC wants to see him so he will pick them up and either take them for a hot chocolate or go for a walk, or bring them to our house for a bit. This is always on Ex-W or the DSC terms though and is very ad-hoc, usually resulting in us changing our plans for the weekend or DH does something with the DSC and I will go elsewhere or remain at home with my DC.
At both Christmas and more recently Easter we got a phonemail the day before to say that one DSC was coming to our house, they got their gifts/ easter basket, announced that they didn't like what was in the basket and then asked to go home as they had made arrangement to go on the playstation/xbox with their friends.
DH then received a call from Ex-W announcing that she was coming to collect DSC as they wanted to go home.

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Laurdo · 23/04/2023 16:07

You need to push on with getting a court order in place. The ex will be loving the power she currently has, bring able to call the shots knowing your DH will jump at any chance to see his kids. Social work and courts will have had A LOT of experience in kids bring told to tell lies and parents poisoning their kids against the other parent. You're not going to get anywhere the way things currently are. The ex is not going to suddenly become a reasonable person and your DH will be at her beck and call until the end of time if he doesn't sort something more structured and legally binding.

bookbu · 23/04/2023 19:36

You don't need a virtual shake...you need a virtual hug Flowers

YoyoYolo · 24/04/2023 07:05

This is a sad situation all round and I do feel for your DH.

But absolutely no way would I be having these children around myself or my own children. I wouldn't risk their lies affecting my own kids or potentially even worse, risking getting SS involved in my own relationship with my children.

Whilst I appreciate your husband is just desperate to see his children, he does need to understand this is a valid and major concern for you. You cannot risk your own children to facilitate his. That is not a reasonable ask or expectation.

He needs to continue seeing them outside of the house or only when you and your children aren't there for now.

Id go so far as to separate if he didn't agree to that to be honest. You've put up with a hell of a lot more shit than I would have.

Offthexmaslist · 24/04/2023 09:01

Why on Earth didn't your DH go for a child arrangement order when she refused mediation the first time ?

He needs to stop blaming you. Stop allowing his ex to ruin the children's lives and grow a bloody spine. Get into court - which will also reveal why SW are involved - and safeguard HIS kids.

flowergirl2020 · 24/04/2023 10:05

This is so sad and you've been so patient with the situation. Not as extreme as this but from my husband experiencing similar in terms of controlling access, lies, sabotaging plans etc Definately apply for a child arrangement order. It doesn't guarantee she will stick to it but it would take an extreme miscarriage of justice for SS, the judge etc not to look at all of this evidence and not see if it what it is. Those children are going to have so many issues in their own relationships all because of their nasty mother. You're quite right to protect your own children, yourselves and careers from false accusations. Sending you a hug.
We have found that my husbands child uses a lot of the tactics learned from mum towards his peers, and teachers when trying to lie and manipulate himself out of trouble, mainly bullying weaker children at school. There's a lot of gaslighting. Unfortunately the idea access in the home with everyone just relaxed being themselves isn't always reality and it has to be done in a way that protects everyone. Good luck with it all. Xx

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