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21 replies

charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 19:06

Hi,
I would really love so advice, I have no where else to turn to and I am close to tears with this whole situation. Let me give you a bit of back story...

My Fiancè split from his ex in 2018 (his daughter was 1, it was a very quick and shortlived marriage) Their divorce got finalised last year after much hold up from her. I met him 5 months after they split and she has hated me from the very moment, she feels that if it hadn't been for me then there may have been a chance they could have been together again eventually. Anyway, I didn't meet their daughter for a year into our relationship (which is up to them of course)

There was a verbal agreement between them that my partner would have his daughter every other weekend. About 3 years ago mum left and moved 2.5 hours away with their child and my partner was still in the Army so had to stay put.

The mum is ill (MS at 25) and claims not to be able to drive most of the time (apparently only when she is required to drive) so that would mean my partner is expected to drive 5 hours there and back every other Friday and Sunday. This is not a big issue. Mum gets child support because my partner set it up with CSA but mum will often ask for more money, my partner will often give more but if he can't, she will withhold contact and block him from contacting his daughter. He has not spent a single Christmas or birthday with his daughter because the mother feels that it is her right due to being "the main carer" (this is not in writing, just an unspoken agreement). When mother has a partner, she plays ball and will coparent well (she recently broke up with her boyfriend). In the past she has faked illnesses such as cancer, miscarriage and stroke to get attention.

Recently, I have been at my wits end and I am so done with all the drama surrounding this woman.
2 weeks back she called and said she was ill and could we have daughter a few more days. My partner told her that he was unable to take to the time off work so she asked if I would look after their daughter. I was able to take some time off work to do this, so I agreed. The mother is not allowed my number as in the past I have had abusive messages off her and used others phones when I have blocked her. The mother was fine with this and gave me her number incase of an emergency. Later that night their daughter had said to me "why doesn't mum mummy like you? And why does she call you naughty names?" Their daughter got upset and starting crying saying she doesn't understand because im nice. I reassured her and raised the issue with my partner. My partner then rang the mum just to tell her what their daughter said but she flew off the handle. Saying that I needed to "take it with a punch of salt as her daughter is lying" and that I need to "learn to coparent and give her my number and get over the past". My partner then received a ton of abusive texts saying that he was a bad father and that she has to bribe their daughter to come to ours. It was all very unnecessary and only cause upset for us. She then demanded her daughter back later that day despite her daughter being excited for our plans that day. She then called and gaslit her daughter into thinking it was all made up and in her head. She then blocked all contact with my partner for a few days.

My partner later asked me if we should start thinking about going down a legal route to get his time in writing so she can't take it away when she feels like it. I was finally glad that something was being done after years of this rubbish. 24 hours later my partner went back on what he said and told me that he felt it wasn't the right way to go about it as it would make the mother more angry. I was livid, I have stuck by for years and allowed this woman to not only abuse him, but me too and I have been able to do nothing about it. I told him that I wanted no part in it anymore, I am not "coparenting" and I'm not helping when he has another issue. I am just gonna be Daddy's wife, nothing more, I can't. I was then told by him that I should be supportive 100% and to suck it up. I cannot, I have spent the last 2 weeks either angry or numb and he has just ignored this as he doesn't want to talk about it.

When we first got together I tried so hard at being understanding of her manipulation in him, he was completely spineless when it came to standing up to her but 4 years later and I feel its no different. I dotn know what to do or how to jeep my cool enough to speak to him about it. Please help, I have no one that I can talk to and I just wanna cry.

Sorry for the long post. I can answer and additional questions you have.

Thank you

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MeridianB · 01/11/2022 19:54

Is he really worth all this drama and stress? Because it’s going to continue for another 12 years at least. If he’s not prepared to go to court to prevent blocked contact and discourage verbal abuse, then I can’t see this suddenly getting better.

But you certainly do not have to ‘suck it up’ as he so supportively put it. I imagine most people would think seriously about walking away. Don’t let the sunk cost fallacy keep you in a bad situation.

charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 20:05

Thank you,

I do love him but all this stress is too much if he won't do anything about it. If he was willing to sort this then I would go through it with him, it just feels like my thoughts and feelings aren't relevant.
I honestly feel like an outsider with them. I'm moving through each day feeling numb.
I need to have a proper conversation with him about all this still but for right now I need support and someone to talk to because I just feel broken

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Temporary311022 · 01/11/2022 20:10

Run for the hills. I would escape out of this hell. What you wrote is my idea of hell.

there are plenty of men around without this level of drama and he doesn’t seem to have the basic intelligence on how to proceed. You can’t fix stupid.

charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 20:13

The thing u am at war with is thata it isn't that he doesn't care, he's just the type of person that likes to Bury his head in the sand until it all blows over. I'm the type of person that wants to get things sorted and done.

I dont want to leave him but I don't know how to speak to him about this. I can't do this for 12 more years and he needs to see that

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Ginger1982 · 01/11/2022 20:17

Didn't he do anything to try and stop his ex moving 2.5 hours away?

Charlotte123456789 · 01/11/2022 20:22

@charlotte1289 I have a very similar experience to you - my DSS’s mother moved a few hours away and visits have been patchy at best. We’ve been through mediation a few times, and with agreements broken repeatedly, we’re now finalising plans through the courts. If you’d like to catch up, so you have someone to chat to with some shared experiences, please just reach out.

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charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 20:24

He didn't because the relationship was so toxic that I think he was happy that she (the ex) was going to be away. She caused a lot of trouble with him in the army. And she moved closer to his family so he saw it as a good thing

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charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 20:25

Charlotte123456789 · 01/11/2022 20:22

@charlotte1289 I have a very similar experience to you - my DSS’s mother moved a few hours away and visits have been patchy at best. We’ve been through mediation a few times, and with agreements broken repeatedly, we’re now finalising plans through the courts. If you’d like to catch up, so you have someone to chat to with some shared experiences, please just reach out.

Please may I? I need someone to talk to and I'm at a loss. I'm new to this app so I'm not sure how

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WeeOrcadian · 01/11/2022 20:30

This sounds a shitshow OP. Think very hard and very carefully if you want to take part - I imagine that this is just the beginning of a saga.

And the PP who asked if your partner had done anything to stop the ex moving away - such as....? You can't physically stop someone moving house.

Guavafish1 · 01/11/2022 20:33

Too much drama

you'll be better off without him… he will not change and you’ll waste your life on pointless drama!

charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 20:46

I said in my post that I didn't meet him until 5 months after they split and he moved out. I don't understand how you're assuming I'm the villian here?

Also, yes I know. Did you miss the part where she lied about cancer and miscarriages? I never said anything bad about her having MS. I said that she only claims she can't drive when it benefits someone else.

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Bananarama21 · 01/11/2022 21:09

I wonder if you were unknowingly the ow, such short time between him splitting up and moving on to you when they thought they would get back together. He could have been potentially with her especially with a young baby.

charlotte1289 · 01/11/2022 21:21

If that is the case then she lied too. She told me that they were split but she was hoping to get back together.
Regardless of what her thinking is, there is absolutely no need for her to use her child's relationship with her dad because she's bitter. Even if I was the OW, she shouldn't be using her daughter as a weapon so I'm not sure why that's relevant to my issue with now.

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SandyY2K · 01/11/2022 22:04

I think you should suggest couples counselling to him so that you can express your feelings with the support of a professional third party.

He doesn't seem to understand your position here.

Lemon80 · 01/11/2022 22:54

Run... I wish k had. It only gets harder.

PeterRabbitIsNotHere · 02/11/2022 15:45

Run and keep on running, it will never get better. As much as I love DH if I had my time again, or my nieces ever asked my opinion, I'd say never ever get involved with a man with children. It is nothing but stress, drama, nasty ex, nasty kids, and leads to mental health issues.

Navigatingthroughlife · 04/11/2022 09:16

Have you got any of his relatives that your close to that you could have a chat with such as his mum? If he’s the type to bury his head in the sand maybe his mum can offer some advice to get him to actually listen. Maybe he doesn’t realise how much this is actually impacting you and your mental health. If he realises this could be a make or break moment for you he might actually pull his head out the sand and listen. Hope everything works out for you

TiredStepMum89 · 04/11/2022 12:31

Thank you. Unfortunately, his whole family are people who bury their head in the sand. I can't imagine that take note of the damage its doing to me. His mum is exactly where he gets its from and his dad is the type of person to say that I don't matter and I should just suck it up

Laurdo · 04/11/2022 13:25

She sounds like my DSDs mother! Although it's not your decision to make, your fiancé urgently needs to get the custody agreement legalised. My fiancé and his ex had a verbal agreement for around a year, 50/50 custody Sunday-Sunday. This was fine until she wanted to make a change, my DP didn't agree so she stopped contact until he agreed and they had it in writing and signed by lawyers. They ended up having to go to mediation and eventually a legal agreement was drafted. This process took 2 months so we didnt see DSD for all that time. The formal agreement has made life much easier as everyone knows where the stand now and who has the kids at what time for birthdays and xmas etc.

With regards to the ex badmouthing you, this will do her more harm than you. Kids aren't stupid and regardless of what her mothers told her it seems she's made up her own mind about you being a nice person. Keep being that nice person and prove her mum wrong. Don't ever badmouth her mother back and she'll never be able to hold it against you but may start to lose some respect for her mum.

If you're being asked to provide childcare then I think it's only fair that you DP listens to your concerns, stands up to his ex and ensures a legal agreement is put in place. If he refuses to do that then I think you should take a step back. He can't use you for childcare when it suits him and also let his ex call all the shots and walk all over him.

My DSDs mother is an absolute nightmare and has caused endless problems. Thankfully my DP stands up to her and always has my back. I'm heavily involved in my DSDs life (my choice) and my DP always listens to any concerns I have, will pull up his ex, involves me in decisions about DSD as they'll also affect me. If I was providing the childcare I currently am but DP didn't have my back 100% I would definitely feel resentful and like I was just being used as a babysitter. DP has never made me feel like that. Step-parenting is hard, especially when the ex is high conflict and difficult but if you work as a team it can work and be incredibly rewarding.

TiredStepMum89 · 04/11/2022 16:48

Thank you for replying. This is all I am asking for, for it to be in writing when he is supposed to have his daughter so mother can't take it away and use their daughter as a weapon.

I'm not worried about what the mother has told their daughter, as you said it will only damage daughter. I am used to her mother talking rubbish about me.

This was the first time I had agreed to it because in my mind, I was trying. I have already made up my mind about stepping back, mentally I cant do it anymore. My partner thinks that I shouldn't be stepping back and should just get on with it because he has to.

I really wish he would have my back. He normally does but this time I feel alone.

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