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Disparity in finances

38 replies

TheGreatMrsCheese · 06/05/2022 13:29

The long and short of it is, myself and DH are comfortable but not really well off or anything. My DSC mum is similar.

However my parents are quite wealthy and this means they like to spoil our DC and afford them certain things like taking them on big holidays, making significant contributions to savings for them, big presents at Christmas and birthdays, various treats throughout the year, even things like they paid to have their room done.

I know my husband feels bad about this sometimes but my argument is I don't see why my DC should miss out on things. My DSC do have their own grandparents on their mum's side who can do whatever they like with them and it's none of our business, why can't our DC have the same? I'm not going to tell grandparents they can't spoil their grandchildren if they want to.

How do we manage this?

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BaaMoon · 07/05/2022 07:50

TheGreatMrsCheese · 07/05/2022 07:33

He thinks our DC should get less spoilt so it's not as obvious.

Why shouldn't it be obvious though? they have different grandparents.

NamechangeFML · 07/05/2022 07:53

Its not really any different from cousins , is it?
theyd share granparents, but one may have a set of grandparents who were wealthy?
i lived across the road from my cousins and their DF was minted! Mine weren't. Spent every day together. Thats just how it goes.

your parents buy stuff for the SC they sound nice and thoughtful
DH is caring for his children and aware theu have thier feelings hurt a little ( not a bad thing that he's aware) but im not sure he's giving his children credit for being aware of the situation

BaaMoon · 07/05/2022 07:53

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 07/05/2022 07:42

I think this is difficult and I think on one side I can understand why they want to do it but on the othrt side they make your step children feel less important and like second class citizens, and they are making it very obvious.

I understand why you want your child to get more and don’t care so much about what the step kids get, but I can also see why your husband wants them treated equally as you are a blended family.

I think on balance I am with your husband.

They dont feel like 2nd class citizens when their rich mates get nice presents though? This is the same. As I said previously the only thing that made me feel a bit like DH has a point is the bedroom as that's part of the house. But easily sorted by DH doing up the DSC's room a bit.

SoggyPaper · 07/05/2022 08:01

I agree that it’s actually better to think of nonresident half siblings as more like very close cousins than full siblings. They share some family but not all. That means there will be differences.

why should it be some kind of dirty secret that they have different families?

SoggyPaper · 07/05/2022 08:05

Tbh, that’s true of any half siblings. My elder son is an only child on his father’s side. He’s the only child in that family at all. And his dad buys PS5s and takes him away very regularly. My youngest is not an only child on any side. No one needs to compensate him for having a different family make up. It just is.

BaaMoon · 07/05/2022 08:11

why should it be some kind of dirty secret that they have different families? I agree with this so much. I mean my DSC have a completely different lifestyle at mums to here so they already get that things are different with each part of their family. Kids aren't stupid.

SoggyPaper · 07/05/2022 08:19

BaaMoon · 07/05/2022 08:11

why should it be some kind of dirty secret that they have different families? I agree with this so much. I mean my DSC have a completely different lifestyle at mums to here so they already get that things are different with each part of their family. Kids aren't stupid.

I think the worst possible thing for the children is to decide that their non-nuclear family falls short of the nuclear gold standard and then:

  1. treat it like a dirty secret by hiding the (obvious) difgerences
  2. start compensating them for their inferior family situation.
all you are doing is telling them that their family is lesser and they should feel that too.

acknowledging the differences and framing them
positively is healthy all round.

TheGreatMrsCheese · 07/05/2022 08:21

No one would expect my DSC to get less from their maternal grandparents to compensate the fact my DC don't get anything from them. I'm with PPs that don't see the problem in children understanding they have different family. I don't want to hold my DC back from getting things that seems unfair on them.

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BaaMoon · 07/05/2022 08:30

I think the worst possible thing for the children is to decide that their non-nuclear family falls short of the nuclear gold standard absolutely! This way lies Disney dadding!

BaaMoon · 07/05/2022 08:32

And the DSC shouldn't even be aware of the savings accounts if the DC are young? Sounds like it's more DH worrying he hasn't saved anything for DSC's future there? Although it would be deeply unfair if he saved for the DSC but didn't add to the DC's pot imo.

aSofaNearYou · 07/05/2022 08:46

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 07/05/2022 07:49

The op hasn’t said if the other grandparents are also wealthy. I just think on balance the grandparents should respect they are now a family and treat the kids fairly equally and not make a very clear differentiator, it leads to envy and disparity, and for the kids who get less feeling shit.

Some step parents on here may say that they've taken their partner's kids on "as their own" and want their family to treat them exactly the same as biological GC. But it's safe to say that if the person to whom they have a connection (OP) doesn't feel that way then it isn't how the blended family is defined and there is nothing to respect.

Nobody involved in my "blended family" (and I don't think that term really fits a lot of situations) feels like my DSS and DD have exactly the same lives and families. I have no doubt that from DSS's perspective, his main family is his mum's family, because these are the people he spends most of his life with, he is NR here. The result is that nobody involved sees the situation as upsetting and "feels like shit", it just is what it is, it's not something to be upset about.

I agree wholeheartedly with the posters saying in a lot of ways half siblings that don't live together full time are more like cousins than full siblings. Neither description totally fits because half siblings in a non nuclear family are their own thing that can't and don't need to be jammed into the mould of a family that adults like this poster are more comfortable with, and incidentally passing on that anxiety to the kids is not helpful to them at all. But somewhere between the two would be quite close.

SoggyPaper · 07/05/2022 12:37

I agree wholeheartedly with the posters saying in a lot of ways half siblings that don't live together full time are more like cousins than full siblings. Neither description totally fits because half siblings in a non nuclear family are their own thing that can't and don't need to be jammed into the mould of a family that adults like this poster are more comfortable with, and incidentally passing on that anxiety to the kids is not helpful to them at all. But somewhere between the two would be quite close.

Absolutely. There are differences, but in many cases a comparison to (close) cousins rather than full siblings is more realistic. They only share some family. They live in different houses where there may well be different rules and expectations.

obviously there are some key differences - and there will be variation in different non-nuclear family set ups.

I guess the key point is that pretending there are no differences between full siblings and half siblings (and particular differences where they are NR half siblings even beyond resident half siblings) is not helpful. There is actually nothing wrong with being half siblings. It’s not a lesser relation, but it is a different one in some quite important ways.

It’s like do many things in stepfamilies. The dominance of the nuclear family norm and peoples insistence on it as the measure for things causes so many problem. We see it time and time again on here: they are your family, they are siblings, it’s their home too, and so on. Yes - all of these things are true but they are very much shaped by a range of factors.

They are your family. They are basically children-in-laws rather than children to stepparents. You wouldn’t expect people to relate to their MIL and their mum in the same way. We don’t expect SC to relate to SMs as they do to their mother either. But somehow expect SMs to operate as if it’s not an in-law relationship where there is a key person in the SC’s lives in the parallel role (the fact they have a mother is important - it’s still important where she’s no longer alive).

They are siblings. As we are saying, it does make a difference whether they are full, half or step siblings. It matters how much contact there is. In all sorts of ways. The distinction matters to everyone related to any of the children. There’s no single right way to handle the differences, but pretending they don’t exist is rarely helpful. It just becomes the elephant in the room in various ways.

And it is their home. But it’s not their only home. It often isn’t even their main home. All of this does make a difference in various ways. Especially when they have parents who simultaneously insist that ‘it’s their home’ but then treat them like visiting dignitaries rather than residents. The NRP cake and eating it tendency is never helpful.

Nor is the stepfamily animal farm version of equality. Very often on these boards we see variations of a logic that is absolutely ‘all children are equal but nonresident stepchildren are more equal’ (because they are victims of their non-nuclear family).

None of it is helpful. There’s nothing wrong with being a stepfamily. You can be open about the different relationships and roles within it - and actually celebrate the differences. Even where it’s the case that some half siblings have more generous grandparents than others.

On MN is generally only controversial if it’s the Nonresident SC who appear to be getting less. It’s fine if they have wealthy and generous maternal grandparents. Or live in a more affluent household where they get taken on loads of holidays. It only seems to become a problem if their are or half siblings are benefitting from generous grandparents etc. Because animal farm…

ilovemyboys3 · 07/05/2022 17:07

SoggyPaper · 07/05/2022 12:37

I agree wholeheartedly with the posters saying in a lot of ways half siblings that don't live together full time are more like cousins than full siblings. Neither description totally fits because half siblings in a non nuclear family are their own thing that can't and don't need to be jammed into the mould of a family that adults like this poster are more comfortable with, and incidentally passing on that anxiety to the kids is not helpful to them at all. But somewhere between the two would be quite close.

Absolutely. There are differences, but in many cases a comparison to (close) cousins rather than full siblings is more realistic. They only share some family. They live in different houses where there may well be different rules and expectations.

obviously there are some key differences - and there will be variation in different non-nuclear family set ups.

I guess the key point is that pretending there are no differences between full siblings and half siblings (and particular differences where they are NR half siblings even beyond resident half siblings) is not helpful. There is actually nothing wrong with being half siblings. It’s not a lesser relation, but it is a different one in some quite important ways.

It’s like do many things in stepfamilies. The dominance of the nuclear family norm and peoples insistence on it as the measure for things causes so many problem. We see it time and time again on here: they are your family, they are siblings, it’s their home too, and so on. Yes - all of these things are true but they are very much shaped by a range of factors.

They are your family. They are basically children-in-laws rather than children to stepparents. You wouldn’t expect people to relate to their MIL and their mum in the same way. We don’t expect SC to relate to SMs as they do to their mother either. But somehow expect SMs to operate as if it’s not an in-law relationship where there is a key person in the SC’s lives in the parallel role (the fact they have a mother is important - it’s still important where she’s no longer alive).

They are siblings. As we are saying, it does make a difference whether they are full, half or step siblings. It matters how much contact there is. In all sorts of ways. The distinction matters to everyone related to any of the children. There’s no single right way to handle the differences, but pretending they don’t exist is rarely helpful. It just becomes the elephant in the room in various ways.

And it is their home. But it’s not their only home. It often isn’t even their main home. All of this does make a difference in various ways. Especially when they have parents who simultaneously insist that ‘it’s their home’ but then treat them like visiting dignitaries rather than residents. The NRP cake and eating it tendency is never helpful.

Nor is the stepfamily animal farm version of equality. Very often on these boards we see variations of a logic that is absolutely ‘all children are equal but nonresident stepchildren are more equal’ (because they are victims of their non-nuclear family).

None of it is helpful. There’s nothing wrong with being a stepfamily. You can be open about the different relationships and roles within it - and actually celebrate the differences. Even where it’s the case that some half siblings have more generous grandparents than others.

On MN is generally only controversial if it’s the Nonresident SC who appear to be getting less. It’s fine if they have wealthy and generous maternal grandparents. Or live in a more affluent household where they get taken on loads of holidays. It only seems to become a problem if their are or half siblings are benefitting from generous grandparents etc. Because animal farm…

Absolutely agree!

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