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I'm struggling

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a647gjf · 12/12/2021 13:19

I live with my partner and my two sons from a previous relationship and his daughters from a previous relationship stay with us every weekend. And as the title suggests, I'm finding myself at breaking point. I love his girls dearly and I hate myself for admitting this out loud but I've grown to resent them recently. They're 8 and 12 and I can't stand how they treat my boys and boss them around. They're often spiteful and nasty to them, as kids are but the fierce mother bear in me can't stand it. I'd love to have that fierce kind of love for them that I do my own children which would perhaps make me look past a lot of the things they do but it just isn't there :( I also can't stand how they speak to me, especially the eldest, which is where a lot of the resentment has come from. I've spoken to their dad about it and he's talked to them about it and nothings changed. Granted, the oldest is 12 so I know she's at the age where hormones are flying all over so I try and be a little more lenient in view of that. The 8 year old however is very spoilt and so used to getting her own way with everything. She's really difficult. She tries to control everything my boys do. She tells them off. And what irks me more than anything is they both try and tell me how to parent, which is ridiculous. I've spoken to their dad about it who says they're just kids and it's just who they are but I can't help but find it so incredibly rude and disrespectful. They just don't respect my boundaries at all. For example, this morning, my son was at the table and his spilt his juice over the table. Accidents happen, no bother. However the 12 year old said 'are you not even gonna tell him off for that'. Explained why I didn't but I'm tired of having to justify my actions and my parenting choices TO CHILDREN. That's just an example, but it's so much worse than that. I'll be honest, I'm contemplating leaving. I'm sick of being undermined in my own house and feeling disrespected by everybody. I don't want my boys to grow up to disrespect me either. Any advice?

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sassbott · 12/12/2021 20:16

I didn’t say she didn’t have a choice. They both did. Now there are issues, the Op has another choice to make.

But to be crystal clear. What’s happening here is unacceptable. And the clear driving factor is the OP’s partner.

EdgeOfTheSky · 12/12/2021 20:16

[quote RedWingBoots]@EdgeOfTheSky when children are rude, nasty and spiteful to younger children regardless of their living situation they need to be dealt with firmly.

Otherwise they will go through life bullying others, and then likely end up in difficult situations when they bully someone who has a legally protected characteristic outside the home environment.[/quote]
Rude, NASTY AND SPITEFUL?

Really?

Ok, they are not being angels.

I also agree that whatever the emotional cause it isn’t ok.

But the emotional background may well inform how you deal with it.

An 8 year old is a young child. A 12 year old is at a difficult age.

But hey, this is MN and step kids, and those older than your own just have to suck it up, behave and apologise for their existence.

User8658 · 12/12/2021 20:24

Did you see the post the other day about the step mother podcast? I would recommend listening. It explains in a family where parents haven’t separated, the mother and father have control. When you become a single parent, it is hard and the power often transfers to the children, or step children. Combined with the idea of a Disney dad, a parent that feels huge guilt and to fix that guilt, fails to enforce boundaries which are actually the best thing you can do for a child, the child feels completely in charge to the expense of the step mother.

I was in a very similar situation to you, my DP has started to understand the Disney dad behaviour and changed massively, but it has been so much work and so difficult. And I know a lot more is still to come. The more I look back at what happened the more I see how ridiculous it was and then read posts like yours and understand even more how out of order it all was.

The thing that pushed me in the end was I couldn’t let my children be treated badly by anyone in their own home. I’m sorry you have had to go through this.

isadoradancing123 · 12/12/2021 20:48

Start telling them off yourself and setting your own boundries, if they dont like it its tough

Tattler2 · 12/12/2021 23:40

What explanation do you provide to children to explain why as a parent you decided to keep them in an unpleasant living environment with people to whom they were not related and in which there was no legally binding ties existing between any of the people in the household and nothing preventing you and your siblings being moved to a less toxic living environment?
How do you explain that the decision to remain was totally elective even though there were other options available for instance moving into a home of your own?

I would be quite confused as to an explanation that would justify my staying in such a situation.

The question is not directed to the OP but is simply one that comes to mind given the fact situation presented in the OP's posting.

BeyondOurReef · 13/12/2021 14:56

Ok, they are not being angels.

No. They are being:

  1. Nasty to younger children.
  2. Openly disrespectful to the OP.

As a parent of a 12 year old, it is my job to do something about both of those things. For him as much as anyone else. Regardless of him being a stepchild.

The problem is that their father not only excuses this behaviour but reinforces it by telling his partner off in front of them. He’s a terrible father. Awful.

An 8 year old is a young child. A 12 year old is at a difficult age.

An 8 year old is really not that young. This gets trotted out on MN stepparenting all the time, as if the child were 3 or something. 8 year olds are in the period of middle childhood, in KS2 at school and are able to understand that their choices and behaviour are not ok.

This 8 year old is being let down by her useless father. He is doing the NR father having cake and eating it thing, where apparently she’s old enough to overrule young children’s actual parent on snacks and parenting, but presumably too young for anyone to challenge this behaviour. Similarly she should bd respected as ‘an elder’ but doesn’t need to have any respect for her elders.

But hey, this is MN and step kids, and those older than your own just have to suck it up, behave and apologise for their existence.

It’s not apologising for their existence. It’s being asked to behave acceptably. That is something their father should be insisting on regardless.

The 8 and 12 year old are with their mother the rest of the time. The logic trotted out about poor SC having to watch their father live FT with other children (and, if it IS FT, then those other, actual young children do not have a father in any meaningful sense at all yet get to watch their stepdad act like his children are the second coming of Christ every weekend) is bullshit. They are more than old enough to understand that their parents have split up and that they have regular weekend contact (every weekend with their dad). The rest of the time they’re with their mum not abandoned on the street wishing they could live with their dad.

Their parents should be helping them to accept this. Not pandering to poor behaviour out of divorced parent guilt.

But this is MN, a nonresident stepchild is always beyond reproach and resident (step)children do not matter in the least.

Otherwise maybe we’d be talking about his terrible it must be for two very little boys who must almost never see their own father (because otherwise they wouldn’t be subjected to their de facto stepdad’s daughters every weekend). How must they feel that two much older girls are allowed to come in and treat them badly - and to treat their mother with contempt. Indeed, to see that their mother is told she’s in the wrong for trying to protect them from bullying behaviour from children very much old enough to know better.

But no. We are making excuses for very poor behaviour in a 12 year old.

Tigertealeaves · 13/12/2021 18:32

OP, you are not in the wrong.

We have a 2 year old, and DP's older children (11 and 13) are here half the time. OK, slightly different setup, but similar age gap.

They do give her snacks, tell her off if she's being naughty, etc. But - since day one they have always taken the lead from the adults - from me at least as much as DP, in terms of "is she allowed this" or "you know mummy said no throwing". As such they're actually really helpful.

No way should DP be letting a child overrule the parent. I don't care what the emotional context is. They need to follow your lead and work as a team. Can you get DP on side with this?

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