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Worried about reaction from SD Mum

18 replies

Tallulahh3 · 01/10/2021 17:45

Hi, I’m happily pregnant with my wonderful partner and now we have passed the first trimester we are excited about telling his two daughters. I’m lucky to have a great relationship with them but their mother has been rude and difficult from the start with me and my partner. I’m beyond stressed about her reaction once we tell her about the baby and we can’t decide the best option - advice needed please!
For reference she does have mental health issues and has had a number of breakdowns over the past 5 years. The youngest daughter (7) has aniexty to the point she is literally sick with worry about mummy’s stress and headaches. She has had unprovoked screaming rages over the phone with my partner over the past 2 years. For context of her behaviour she has called me a b I t c h to the children, tried to stop me seeing my family by screaming at my partner and making threats, moved the kids 4 hours away when she found out my partner had moved on with me (no crossover - they were long separated) and claimed mental health issues to justify the move so far away to the children, bad mouthed my ex to the shared schoolgate friends when they broke up and then claimed I’d ruined her life and was evil when she found out about us (the school gate friends told us they sang ‘ding dong the witch is dead’ when she announced she was moving away…). She broke all Covid rules with house parties in Tier 4 whilst I was shielded and knowingly forced me to move out temporarily so my partner could still see his kids - and somehow found reason to scream at him to blame him for the kids being upset about her parties, and last week started threatening to reduce contact with the girls because he had to book a train 30 mins later (he travels from Yorkshire to London and back x 2 to bring them home on access weekends and she travels 20 mins to London for the handover). There are many more examples but she has a history of severe temper swings and depressive episodes.

We are terrified of another screaming fit and threats when we tell her and can’t decide what’s best. I feel she should be told by phone over a conversation (in person doesn’t feel safe given her volatile past behaviour) but friends who knows her and her behaviour says to email her and let her react in private before speaking to her at the handover. An email feels on the disrespectful side given how emotional she can be, but I would love independent views on how best to handle this. We will be telling the girls first and then telling her before she speaks with them.

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limmylee · 01/10/2021 17:57

I'd contact her when the children are in your care. Let her know you'll be getting them before they return to her. That way she can't poison their reactions and you have time to spend with the girls to reassure them of their place in your lives and how proud you'll be of them when they become big sisters to the new baby. She'll also have space to react however she likes on her own.

MadreT · 01/10/2021 18:00

It doesn’t sound like she’ll take it well whatever method of delivery you choose. I agree with what @limmylee has said though.

HogDogKetchup · 01/10/2021 18:12

Don’t answer the phone and don’t enter into any discussion re your pregnancy.

Tallulahh3 · 01/10/2021 18:19

Thank you all - really helpful! The current plan is to tell the girls in a few weeks when we have them here with us for a week so we can be there for any potential worries they might have with lots of reassurance, love and cuddle time - and away from the negative influence. We have the ‘promoted to big sister’ tshirts from their baby brother on standby for them.

Their mum often has wobbles and demands calls every couple of days (in addition to the agreed call times) so we want to make sure she has been updated before the girls tell her on a likely call. Whilst every moral fibre says it should be done by conversation I’m terrified she will shout vile or threatening things about me and/or the baby. I can normally handle the name calling etc but this one has me in a tizzy!

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aSofaNearYou · 01/10/2021 18:32

She shouldn't have the opportunity to shout at you, your DP should inform her.

aSofaNearYou · 01/10/2021 18:34

And congratulations on your pregnancy! Don't let this stress you out, let your DP handle it all.

Kimbo180 · 01/10/2021 18:38

Dont be nervous and fuck what she says. U enjoy ur time with the kids

RedMarauder · 01/10/2021 18:44

You both tell the kids as this is their sibling so they should get the news first.

Then your DP can tell her or their kids can before they go back home as this is not really her news.

You have no relationship with her and should have no contact/the absolute minimal contact with her.

Also your child is not related to her so you need to make it clear to your DP that he must not talk about what your child is up to with her or allow your child to have any contact with her. This is to protect you and more importantly your child from her mental health issues.

My DP's ex has "issues" and I was given this advice by health professionals. This was later backed up by lawyers.

GullyGull · 01/10/2021 18:45

If she is thay unstable surely your DP should be seeking full custody of his children? What you have described is emotionally abusive so why leave the children in that environment?

Kimbo180 · 01/10/2021 18:49

Im actually getting sick of s.ms coming on here and getting slated for actually having a life and been afraid of the first wives club. Heres a post i seen and it well relates to how us sm feel

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Tokyotammy · 01/10/2021 18:50

For reference she does have mental health issues and has had a number of breakdowns over the past 5 years. The youngest daughter (7) has aniexty to the point she is literally sick with worry about mummy’s stress and headaches.

Why would a father leave his children in this environment? has he been back to court to seek residency of the children. Surely this should be the priority if she is that ill.

Tallulahh3 · 01/10/2021 19:08

We’ve had legal advice regards custody and have flagged the concerns and have been advised against acting yet. We would likely get re-awarded joint custody which is effectively impossible since she moved them away - and it would likely set her off and make access more difficult. It’s frustrating to say the least. DP was advised he couldn’t legally fight them being moved away at the time - new lawyers advised this was potentially wrong sadly.
DP does handle all conversations and I have no contact whatsoever. The abusive calls have at times left him shaken and I’ll be able to tell if she has been vile/threatening and reacted badly.

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MeridianB · 01/10/2021 19:52

There is actually nothing you can do to help her get better. So treat that as a liberating aspect of all this and know that you’ve put the girls first and will support them in the future to feel secure once the baby arrives.

Beyond getting good legal advice on custody, don’t waste any more time or headspace on this woman. It’s pointless.

fidgetmad · 01/10/2021 22:05

Is there a chance she might be pleased about the news. Not as in that she'll be happy for you.

I often think of my exH and his partner had a baby, she might stop interfering so much as a SM.

I've had issues for years with her completely overstepping the SM boundary and trying to act like her mum and I thought having a child of her own might help her realise this

Hattie765 · 02/10/2021 11:43

Just step back and let your partner tell her, preferably by email as he shouldn't have to put up with the abuse. You need to think of yourself and manage your stress at this time (trust me am talking from experience). Ask your DH not to discuss Exw reaction with you, you do not need to hear about it at all ATM. If your DH needs to unload about how unreasonable she's been he should call a mate. Just stay away from it and enjoy time with the girls before baby comes xxx

vivainsomnia · 02/10/2021 13:09

We are terrified of another screaming fit and threats when we tell her and can’t decide what’s best
Why? Don't let her moods affect you do much. Your pregnancy has nothing to do with her.

Firstly it should be 'we' telling her but tour OH. Then it should be a 'just to let you, were expecting a baby' and leave it to that.

Tell your OH you don't really want to know what her reaction was because it's nothing to do with you.

Remove yourself from as much of it as possible and you won't be so affected.

vivainsomnia · 02/10/2021 13:11

The current plan is to tell the girls in a few weeks when we have them here with us for a week so we can be there for any potential worries they might have with lots of reassurance, love and cuddle time - and away from the negative influence. We have the ‘promoted to big sister’ tshirts from their baby brother on standby for them
Do not give them the t-shirt unless you are 10000% certain they have over the moon. Your happiness doesn't have to be theirs, at least not at the start.

BungleandGeorge · 02/10/2021 13:44

Did she move away to be near family who are keeping an eye on her? She sounds quite unwell.
I agree I would keep it all quite low key, they may not be happy and even if they are at their ages waiting for a new baby seems like it takes forever.
Could your partner contact her family before he tells her so that they can support if necessary? I think over the phone would be better, maybe with a text prior to see when is a good time?

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