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Stepson crying and asking mummy

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Lmsb30 · 07/03/2021 18:01

SO's youngest boy has been living with us 3 nights a week for over a year and half now, since he was 2 and a few months to now nearly 4. He never showed signs of distress at the transition to two houses (I know this doesn't mean there wasn't more going on under the surface with him), he seemed to take it in his stride. We had a few problems with him waking in the night and crying because at mum's house he just gets in her bed but our house by nature of the layout the stair gate stops him getting to our room. So he would need settling in his room but we've come on leaps and bounds and he regularly sleeps all night through. He never asked for mummy or cried coming over and recently he's been really excited to come over and always asking his mother when he's coming to dad's. His older brother was harder, he was four and few months when he started living here and is now nearly six. He did a lot of asking to for his mum and when was he going home and some crying over it in the beginning. It unsurprisingly seemed he would get emotional and want mum when we told him off for something but sometimes it was calm but constant asking when he could go home. We're miles from that now and he spends full weekends here without crying or asking for her. It was hard but it was all new for him and of course it was a huge adjustment so we knew it would take time and patience and things are much better now.
This last week or so though the youngest has been very moody, attitudey and temperamental, having a tantrum or crying fit at the drop of a hat, even just asking him to come brush his teeth let alone telling him off for something. He's melting down at the slightest inconvenience and mostly when we say more to more video games as if we didn't he'd literally play them 24/7. With all of this comes almost hysterical cries for mummy, which is completely new. I get that he's still so young and kids deal with things the way they do and they can be up and down. But this seems out of nowhere, he's always been a right daddy's boy too but at the moment seems to not want to be around either of us (I have a good bond with the boys). The littlest thing sets him off and we've had a full weekends of tantrums and meltdowns and calling for mummy over and over like 4/5 times a day. Thing is I've noticed, soon as I leave the room he'll stop and if I go back in he starts up again. I've tried sofly softly with him but everything sets him off. I've tried lots of hugs and affection and telling him it's ok and he'll see mummy soon but I'm now realising it actually just feeds the meltdown as opposed to soothing him. I know I shouldn't take it personally but the way it's come out of nowhere when he's had over a year and a half of seeming to settle in well so it happening now feels like such a rejection of me and his father and our home.
I feel like we're letting him get away with stuff he shouldn't because of the tantrums, which we worked hard on breaking him out of in the beginning. But those tantrums were him not genuinely in distress, short lived and never about mummy, just annoyance that we wouldn't give him another biscuit type of thing. But these tantrums are emotional and will go on and on sometimes and because his whole attitude is sulky I feel we're tip toeing around him. I don't want him to relearn that behaviour with the now more distreasing and effective factor of shouting for mummy. At the same time I'm so loathed to see him so distressed when he's going through it that I'm doing anything avoid it.

This is a massive ramble but it's been so emotional and such hard work and I'm at my wits end with it.

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aSofaNearYou · 07/03/2021 19:29

This is a very similar story to me. My step son's started showing much more issues at that age. I think it's a combination of him starting to become more in tune to his mum's ongoing bitterness and upset over the situation, which was very apparent at the time, and his own feelings evolving and maturing. They just become more aware of the whole separation subject, and the perceived loss and injustice to their traditional family unit.

I can't suggest much but in my experience this is just a natural progression and you have to adjust to the new normal, get used to the fact that he has these feelings and behaviours now. It might mean being firmer with him in certain areas and laying down the law in terms of not just crying for mum when he doesn't get his way (he needs to learn this won't work), but also reassurance and potentially many heart to hearts with his dad.

Lmsb30 · 08/03/2021 10:57

@aSofaNearYou yes their father and I talked a lot about it and we had similar conclusions. As the youngest gets older he's probably getting more conscious of the situation and maybe confused by it. I let it overwhelm me that he was crying and calling for mummy but as you say I can't let him learn that gets him what he wants.
It's obviously very distressing for his dad to hear and see too, probably more so and I need to stop making it about my not being able to deal.

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GrumpyHoonMain · 08/03/2021 11:00

Are you the only one disciplining him? That might be why he asks for his mum and stops crying when you leave the room. I know it’s difficult but you need to let your DH choose (or not) to discipline him otherwise you’ll always be painted as the bad guy.

Lmsb30 · 08/03/2021 12:32

@GrumpyHoonMain I think there's something in this. There was some crying for mummy when DP was dealing with youngest DSS but more so with me. DP does discipline and generally deal with the kids, he's not expecting me to do it and it's not the case that I'm doing all the childcare leg work but I am of course involved. But I do feel like the bad guy sometimes as I'm usually firmer. I am always telling myself I should just step back but I can't stand seeing DP getting in negotiations and arguments with the kids that drag out and escalate the issue. I have told him that I feel like the bad guy sometimes because of things like he might threaten a time out but rarely actually doles one out, but I do. He'll get wound up by the argument/negotiation and can fly off the handle. I feel like I swoop in to stop it getting to that, so that's on me, I need to back off. I have talked him about his approach because obviously he feels really guilty when he loses his temper with them. He takes it on-board but in the moment it's like he gets in the weeds and can't see straight to just be firm but calm, not let it escalate and get angry.

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SandyY2K · 08/03/2021 13:03

I agree that backing off a bit might help. If the person who isn't the parent is doing more of the telling off or other discipline, you'll be seen.as the baddie.

He might also just miss his mum, it's quite a young age and it's not so easy to express his feelings and emotions at that age. It may just be a phase he's going through.

It seems like you take him asking for his mum as a bit of a rejection towards you. Try not to take it personally. Could also be the effect of the way we live and restrictions at the moment...taking it's toll.

You made me laugh when you said he stops when you leave the room...I remember my DD when she was very young crying about something...when I left the room she stopped...I came back thinking great she's stopped...then she sees me and starts again..I noticed it was something of a pattern...and laughed in my mind....but gave her a big cuddle..and she was fine.....it's often for attention at that age.

GrumpyHoonMain · 08/03/2021 14:03

[quote Lmsb30]@GrumpyHoonMain I think there's something in this. There was some crying for mummy when DP was dealing with youngest DSS but more so with me. DP does discipline and generally deal with the kids, he's not expecting me to do it and it's not the case that I'm doing all the childcare leg work but I am of course involved. But I do feel like the bad guy sometimes as I'm usually firmer. I am always telling myself I should just step back but I can't stand seeing DP getting in negotiations and arguments with the kids that drag out and escalate the issue. I have told him that I feel like the bad guy sometimes because of things like he might threaten a time out but rarely actually doles one out, but I do. He'll get wound up by the argument/negotiation and can fly off the handle. I feel like I swoop in to stop it getting to that, so that's on me, I need to back off. I have talked him about his approach because obviously he feels really guilty when he loses his temper with them. He takes it on-board but in the moment it's like he gets in the weeds and can't see straight to just be firm but calm, not let it escalate and get angry.[/quote]
I think you have your answer. Honestly if he’s flying off the handle all the time the best thing you can be is the good guy. Someone for the poor boy to run to or confide in. Let your DH face the consequences of his behaviour alone

SnoringSnore · 08/03/2021 14:58

You've had some good advice and suggestions OP.

Just to reassure a bit too, I think this can be quite a common phase. We had the same with my DSS when he was around 5. Had been absolutely fine and then suddenly just went through a stage where he'd scream and cry at leaving his mum, mostly he'd been fine once he got to our house and had settled down but it was actually really distressing picking him up from her house and seeing how upset he was at leaving. It would have been easy to say let him stay there then but 9 times out of 10 he did enjoy the time with his Dad once he'd 'forgotten' about the earlier distress of leaving Mum. We also had the constant asking of when he was going back even without the tears and tantrum.

It didn't last very long and he's perfectly fine now a couple of years later. He was just going through a particularly clingy stage with his Mum I think.

I strongly believe that it was never a reflection on how be felt about his Dad or being at our house. It was just a Mummy phase so to speak, we've had instances where he's been the same about leaving Dad's too.

He's much better now.

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