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Boyfriend's son lying about me

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LexLuth · 23/12/2020 21:57

Okay to start out, I am not a stepparent, but I definitely needed some advice. To explain the situation, my boyfriend and I have been together for a little over a year now. He has two sons with a previous girlfriend, an 8 (almost 9) year-old (not biological) and a 3 year-old (biological). He has raised the 8-year-old since he was a baby and that's who he knows as dad. I am not a kid person, but I accepted his children as a part of my life because they are a part of him. The mother and I do not exactly get along, and she is a very unkind person in general. Overall, I pretty much avoid her to keep the peace. I met his children probably about 9 months ago and since my boyfriend and I live together, they always come over our place. She has them during the weekdays and we take them from Th-Sun/sometimes Mon. Pretty immediately, the 8-year old began clinging to me. I thought we were building a really close bond. Like I said, I'm not a kid person, but I am actually very good with kids when I am in a situation where I am around them. Once the 8-year-old really started to get comfortable with me, he began saying some pretty horrible things (by my standards, at least) about his mother while he would be over our house. Examples include “my mother is lazy”, “all she does is sit on her phone”, “I wish you were my mother and not her”, “she treats (his brother’s name) better than she treats me”. He would also say that he missed when my boyfriend used to live with them because at least they got to go to the park and go outside and he says his mother never takes them anywhere and she just sits at home all day on her phone. At first when he would say these things, I would kind of encourage him that his mother loves him and that she’s doing her best. In my honest opinion, I think she’s a horrible mother. But I would never say that to him, so I would just do my best to change the subject. Meanwhile when he was over our house, he would be living it up. So much so to the point where when we would tell him it was time to go home, he'd be angry and give us an attitude and he has even cried on several occassions because he said he didn't want to go back. Many months later, I hear from my boyfriend that the son has been going to his mother’s boyfriend and telling him that all the awful stuff HE is saying about his mother have been coming out of MY mouth. He was also saying that he doesn't even like coming over my house because every thime he's there, "she talks about my mommy". WHAT. Meanwhile, when he’s over our house, he’s telling me that he hates being at his mother’s house, that he wishes she weren't his mother, that he wishes he could live with us, etc. So I let this go one time because it was the first I had heard about it and I didn't want to come between my boyfriend’s relationship with his sons. Also, I know this kid has been through a lot and I was trying to be understanding about his issues. That was mistake number one on our part. Now this last weekend when he was over, he was saying more nasty things about his mother (direct quote from him after I had made him lunch: "you're the best, too bad for my mom because she's not the best") and I told him that we are not going to discuss his mother, because what happens at their house is none of my business. Well guess what. Heard from my boyfriend today YET AGAIN that he was saying all the awful stuff was coming from me. And it's so interesting because everything she claims he is saying that I am saying have been direct quotes from HIM. It's like he's projecting his thoughts onto me as if they're my thoughts. It’s literally to the point where I can’t stand this kid and I feel horrible because I would never want to come between my boyfriend and his sons. My boyfriend said all of us should talk to him the first time and we didn't. Now he is saying we are all going to sit down and talk to him. I almost feel like it's pointless, because his mother is so ignorant that she is refusing to believe anything that comes out of my mouth and I'm sure once I say something, she's just going to back me into a corner and defend her child even though he is lying about me and my character. In the past, she has admitted to me HERSELF that she knows that he lies. The son had even come to me telling me stories about her boyfriend hitting/"beating" him (which I didn’t believe because he’s an awful liar) and she said he makes stuff up all the time. He would even come to me at times and make up stories about his mom and her boyfriend and if I would question him, he would laugh and be like "you actually believed that?"

OP posts:
nimbuscloud · 23/12/2020 22:02

He’s 8 years old.
In the last 12 months the man he has known since babyhood has split from his mother and has another partner and his mother also has another partner. That is a huge amount for a young child to deal with.

Changechangychange · 23/12/2020 22:10

It sounds like he thinks you want to hear bad things about his mum, and is saying what he thinks you want to hear. In turn, he is either telling his mum what he thinks she wants to hear, or using you as a shield for the scary emotions he feels about his mum (an extension of “I didn’t do it, Teddy did it”).

It sounds like he is very mixed up, and needs a lot of love and understanding from both sets of parents. Meeting the ex might help with that. You shouldn’t go in saying he’s a lying liar, go in saying he’s obviously upset and is saying x to her and y to you, how can you give him a consistent message?

AnneLovesGilbert · 23/12/2020 22:11

Your boyfriend needs to sit down with his ex and son. You don’t need to be there.

How’s he getting on at school? Have they got any concerns, is he telling lies there or saying much about his home life to his teachers?

You’re right to stop engaging in any discussions about his mum. You can also refuse to be on your own with him, his dad needs to be there all the time if he’s making things up.

RedMarauder · 23/12/2020 22:12

The boy is doing this because he knows he can play his parents off against each other using his parents new partners as pawns. If he can continue to do this then as a teenager he will get away with murder.

Your bf and his ex need to decide to be on the same page with dealing with it and talk to him about it together. You and your bf ex's partner, if she has one, shouldn't be around as you aren't his parents.

Then when he does it again - which you will have to inform your bf as soon as it happens - the punishment agreed between his parents should happen.

If you bf refuses to address the issue with his ex without you then unfortunately you need to consider leaving the relationship, as it is clear your bf is unwilling to parent his children on his own.

Alacrity85 · 06/01/2021 08:41

@nimbuscloud

He’s 8 years old. In the last 12 months the man he has known since babyhood has split from his mother and has another partner and his mother also has another partner. That is a huge amount for a young child to deal with.
He's 8 for christ's sake! He's old enough to know exactly what he's doing and his parents splitting up doesn't excuse bad behaviour, manipulation or blatantly lying.

From what LexLuth has said it sounds like he needs some discipline or even counselling.

Bluntness100 · 06/01/2021 08:45

I agree, he’s telling both sides what he thinks they want to hear and trying to curry favour. The issue he failed to recognize is both sides would talk

I’d let your boyfriend deal with it. I fail to see why you need to be involved.

QuantumJump · 06/01/2021 08:46

Would family therapy be an option? He sounds like a really unhappy mixed up kid.

QuantumJump · 06/01/2021 08:47

In the meantime, yes, if I were you I would step back and avoid situations when you're alone with him.

aSofaNearYou · 06/01/2021 09:02

Tbh I don't think I could stomach putting up with all this due to my partner's former SC. Either your partner sorts it out or I would leave.

Eggcorns · 06/01/2021 09:07

This is a good example of why meeting a new boyfriend’s young children within three months and living together within a year (possibly much less) is a bad idea.

SandyY2K · 06/01/2021 09:08

I would not be alone with him from now on and you should tell your BF this.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 06/01/2021 09:26

I'd secretly record him saying all this stuff and when you all aot down, play it.

SallyMcNally · 06/01/2021 13:13

Poor kid is obviously feeling very insecure and unloved. I think a discussion with his parents where they make it clear that they all love him and like each other and each other's new partners and that he doesn't need to say things like that just because it's what he thinks other people might want to hear.

And yeah get him some counselling if you can. I agree it's probably all been a bit too fast.

Witchymclovely · 07/01/2021 06:11

This is exactly what happened to me! This is how it all starts. I went on a very painful journey and didn’t get it right. It could get a lot worse, do something now and nip this behaviour in the bud. If you don’t get the adult support from his parents I advise you to leave the relationship, sorry Op.

Miramour · 07/01/2021 06:19

Horrible for you but the 8yo is clearly very unhappy and confused. Two issues really. He needs a ton of help - with all significant adults on board, and you need your own support.

MusicWithRocksIn1t · 07/01/2021 12:15

You need to record what he is saying, without him knowing. Let your bf know you are going g to do it ahead of time.

Sounds like he's after attention which given what he has been through isnt unexpected.

Hes also boundary testing and so far winning as his DM obviously wants to believe him.
Get your evidence. Keep a log of everything he says and send it back with your bf so he can tell his ex and yous can all compare notes.
Only way to move forward is to make sure everyone is on the same page if possible.
And if that doesn't work point blank refuse to be left alone with him ever.

Adoptionfrombirth · 08/10/2023 20:47

In context i was 20 now i am 31.
one dusty night at a pub nonetheless I met thiss women I was drunk with my beer goggles on when my friend said to me "she's pregnant" I thought that's the beer talking that's when I woke up thinking I must of dreamt thiss when I opened my eyes she was next to me in my bed 7 months pregnant.
I then thoght to myself how long was I asleep for then my sense of felling kicked in and I thoght to myself "not my child" but we still exchanged numbers then I felt a duty of care to check on her I rang her after 2 weeks with still no sign of the father.
I took it amongst myself to rise the child as mine even put myself on the birth certificate (yes this is a crime in the uk) but every child needs a dad.
Years went by in fact 8 and I had my own 1 boy and a girl so I have 2 boys and a girl. We broke up 3 years ago the child is nearly 11 which I have no contact with the children. I am going through family court proceedings (expensive might I add) she has admitted in a court setting (cafcass) the child is not mine I couldn't admit to it to the courts.
My questions are what shall I do? Shall I tell the child?shall I claim dna tests? Shall I just focus on my biological children? I promised him il take it to the grave am I being selfish in thinking thiss.

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