Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Step-parenting

Connect with other Mumsnetters here for step-parenting advice and support.

SS hates me

14 replies

CBW123 · 08/08/2020 07:29

Hi all, this is my first post.

I guess I've always relied on therapy to talk thorugh issues, but never really reached out and asked for advice, coping mechanisms and strategies from like-minded step parents in similar situations. I guess I'm worn out too, so I may just need this to vent and write down my upset.

I'm a step-parent to two boys one almost 13 one almost 15. The almost 15 year old, I've always had a great relationship with. The almost 13 year old has never liked me. And he never fails to show me that he despises me.

I met his dad almost 10 years ago - so I've known him since he was 3 years old. I've provided, bought clothes when they have been sent with nothing, bathed, taken out, homework, school projects - everything I would do for my own little boy who is 3.

I remember way back when he was three years old and I had a great time with him for the first few times that I met him with his Dad. I remember the first Christmas that he spent with us and he would come into the kitchen and tell me that I was the reason that his mum and dad aren't together (I wasn't, but, I understand that its natural for a child to want their parents to be together and they make make assumptions and speculations to make sense in their little heads) and that I should 'get out' because I 'was not wanted'.

Since then, he has shown his dislike for me. Whatever I do, he lets me know its not good enough. I'll give an example, (this is not the most severe, but it happened yesterday so is fresh in my mind) he hates vegetables, he moans at me when I provide a healthy meal, but equally will grate on me if we're having a rubbish food evening that there isn't enough vegetables on his plate.

Even now, at 12 years old , he will orchestrate the table seating plan so that I'm sitting as far away from him as possible. I understand that younger children do this, but I'm wondering if this will ever stop.

A few nights ago, we were talking about jobs and opportunities to develop professionaly when he's an adult. We spoke about larger organisations providing traning for him whilst he learnt on the job. He made this sweeping proclamation that he would accept the paid for training if he didn't like his employer because they'd be spending all their money on him and he just wouldn't do the training to spite them'. I was slightly shocked, my husband didn't say anything, and neither did I as if I say anything that opposes his views, he contacts his mum and she then contacts my husband to say thet he should be allowed to express his views and that I am crushing his views.

I'm exhausted, I woke up crying this morning and my husband has suggested that need to take anti-depressants to help - like they solve the problem. My husband has returned to work having been on furlough, and I'm on summer holidays from school.

My husband is very understanding of his son having behavioural issues, both in and out of school; everywhere we take him (SS, not husband) , community sports clubs, lessons, there are complaints about his attitude, et cetera, but no one seems to want to help him get any help. His mum smashes up his x-box when he gives her attitude and throws it out of the window, before rewarding him with a new x-box once his attitude has improved.

My husband is scared of never seeing his child again given previous circumstances through the court where his ex took him to court to stop him from seeing his kids, but was instead rewarded with a court order because of difficulty he'd had in accessing his children in direct contact and via the phone.

I'm sorry, I've quickly re-read through, and I'm all over the place. I'm sorry for going on so much, I just don't know where else to turn.

Thanks for reading.

C

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Chucklecheeks01 · 08/08/2020 09:00

You're step son has been failed by his parents. Until they change how they deal with him your situation will never improve.

I personally couldn't carry on in a relationship like that. You deserve a happy home.

Louise91417 · 08/08/2020 09:07

I agree, parents must always read from the same page when parenting and this is an absolute when step parenting is involved. Sounds like your ss has been let down by his parents and your are trying to add structure but, sadly you will get nowhere. Ss has been allowed to behave in this way toward you for so long it will be impossible to change his way of thinking now. Time to think of yourself and the example being shown to your 3year old.

Leobynature · 08/08/2020 09:08

I am not a step parent so other may have a different opinion. You say you do everything for him and treat him like your own son, however he is not your son. He has a mom and dad to parent him, your post reads that your too try hard and desperate for approval and love from this child. Your DH sounds unsupportive and cheeky to suggest you take anti-depressants rather than him dealing with his son.
If I was you I would step back and stop doing things for him, let your DH worry about him.

aSofaNearYou · 08/08/2020 09:12

Your post is a bit hard to unpick - some of the things SS does seem targeted to you and others don't (like the career stuff). What stood out to me most were his words when he was young which do sound particularly unpleasant - I'm more than used to the "my mum says you're the reason my mum and dad split up" or "I want mummy and daddy to live together" but his way of directly telling you you aren't wanted and should leaves sound nasty and hard to deal with, so I commend you for having managed years of that budding attitude. It sounds like he was probably heavily influenced by his mum's feelings (and possibly words) at that young and impressionable age, to me.

I'll give the same advice I would give everyone in this scenario - how easy would it be for you to just disengage from looking after/dealing with him? You say his attitude is poor with everyone, so this isn't just a you problem, why not just leave it to his dad to sort? Speaking of dad, where is he in this? What are his expectations of you as step mum? Are you on the same page?

Enoughnowstop · 08/08/2020 09:18

It is clear his parents need to step up and parent, lay down some boundaries and introduce consequences. It is the only way it will improve. Your DH needs to decide if children/teens who grow up without boundaries will thrive in the real world and whether or not he wants to be dealing with this kind of crap way into adulthood. Not saying anything just isn’t acceptable. Similarly, you need to put in your own boundaries and decide where your line is. This may mean you have to walk away. Really tough decisions for you ahead, I think.

PS I just want to point out that it really isn’t his mum’s responsibility to send children with clothes to their dad’s house. They should have a basic wardrobe for when with you.

cantarina · 08/08/2020 09:37

I feel for you. I don't know what will work but it strikes me if you can learn to do less, care less and refer to your partner that could work for you. 'I don't like the vegetables' - say nothing, if you must say something 'talk to your dad about that'.

I would not be providing child care. If you are off for the summer and dad is working then it's for him to find a childcare solution. Find a child focused way to reject this 'it's obvious that X struggles in my company, it's not fair on him, I don't want to be the source of his unhappiness'

As a step parent sometimes you can't win, you have put your time in here and it's not working. You've done your best for 10 years. You can't do more without support and it sounds like you aren't going to get it so give yourself permission to disengage. Not your circus.

Anti-depressants! Cheek.

CBW123 · 08/08/2020 09:41

Thank you all,

I totally agree, I feel like I'm filling in for where parenting hasn't been put in place. i.e Througout 2 months of lockdown, my DH's 12 year old only did 40 minutes of work, so when both teens arrived up here, over two months ago his tutor called my DH and said that 40 minutes work wasn't enough work and that he needed to complete his core subjects.

I stepped up, and started sitting wih my step-son everyday as my DH returned to work, and it has been breaking me.. that feeling that I'm filling in for both parents, my husband is not exempt from this... and I'm under no illusion that his behaviour is acceptable.

Thank you so much again, I think I needed to hear from others that I need to put in boundaries and concentrate on myself and my little boy and leave the parenting to his biological parents. That's not to say I don't care about both teen's progression into adulthood, I really do, I've known them too long to not have attachments to them, but I feel like I'm doing the worrying for both biological parents.

Thanks all x x

OP posts:
Tiredoftattler · 08/08/2020 17:08

You are worrying about these kids because that is what you choose to do. There parents are choosing to parent as they wish, and good or bad that is their right.
Stop doing things that you feel are not your responsibility; particularly if you are doing them with the expectation of gratitude or appreciation.

As for food, after you have prepared the food, what does it matter what the kid says? He will not starve if he elects not to eat what you have prepared.

You are doing 2 things that are the source of your own pain. You are electing to assume responsibility and then blaming the parents for the decision that you made. Secondly, you are giving the child's words and actions far too much power in your life. Does it really matter if he does not like your cooking or meal selections? He is free to choose to eat or not eat. If he decides to not eat, so be it.

If he wants his parents to be back together, that is simply his wish. The heart wants what the heart wants. He is free to want that which he wants, but his wishes do not alter his or your reality.

Stop trying so hard. You are not making anyone happy., and you are making yourself unhappy. Recognize that the the parents have the rIght to parent as they see fit. You are not their fixer or surrogate, and it is not your responsibility to step in or to step up.

Finally, the kid does not have to like you. He should only be expected to be polite and civil in your house. You do not have to like him; you too only need to be polite and civil.

Once you stop assuming responsibilities that are not yours to assume; both you and the kid will probably find the atmosphere to be less toxic.

Iyiyi · 08/08/2020 18:07

His mum sounds like she has issues modelling effective conflict resolution and it is not surprising he has behavioural issues. The thing about work and training I would dismiss in and of itself - teenagers often say challenging things to provoke, even ones with no behavioural problems.

It’s lovely that you care about him enough to put in the effort to work on his schoolwork with him, but it isn’t your problem and it’s thankless enough to do that with your own children, I speak from experience! Same with eating - he shouldn’t be rude about what you give him and his dad should pull him up on it or cook for him himself - but it’s not your problem if he eats it or has opinions about vegetables!

I think detachment is the way to go, to give you time to reflect, and to protect yourself from stress.

FrootTheLoot · 09/08/2020 09:10

What does your husband say to his son when he says these things to you 'you're the reason mum and dad aren't together' etc...? Does he ever pull him up on his behaviour toward you?

13 is old enough to be told to stop being unkind to someone (especially someone who does such an awful lot for them). My husband would never just sit idly by whilst his children were unkind to me or anyone, especially at that age.

I would honestly just step back. Just let his parents get on with it. You're in an impossible situation, you care for and want to do what's best for them but at the end of the day the sad truth is you just don't have as much influence or control as his biological parents. Leave it to them, concentrate on your own son. If they don't change, no amount of involvement from you will make a difference.

CBADotCom · 09/08/2020 20:16

A lot of what you say resonates as my DSS isn't a fan of me because I parent with boundaries (his Mum CBA and his Dad was a guilty disney dad).
You cant control what happens at his Mums house so disengage from that. Although her method of parenting probably doesn't help but you cant change it so try to ignore it.

Speak to your DP with regards to DSS attitude towards you - your DP needs to be the one letting him know that its not acceptable to be rude to other people. When my DSS last said he didn't want to be at mine and he hated it here and I was not normal because I wont let kids sit up on consoles all night DP said I was doing things the way he'd told me to and that I do a lot for DSS so he should be bloody grateful and no more whinging about it because it's how it was end of.

Regarding providing childcare & helping with school work etc - I've done the same during lockdown but made it clear to my DP that he needed to help elsewhere or do the school work every evening when he got home from work. If you're getting no appreciation or support - stop doing it.

You sound like you're trying to do so much for this lad which is amazing but, as I learnt, sometimes you need to step back and disengage. Eg - with dinner if you're cooking it and he makes a comment either ignore or direct to the kitchen where I'm sure there's plenty of food he could make for himself (no teenage boy will go too long without food IME). Or rather, get DP to direct him to kitchen to cook for himself.

If he was 5/6 I could understand but he's got to 13 behaving like this because it's been unchecked. Your DP needs to get on top of this asap.

Reluctantcavedweller · 10/08/2020 11:43

Your DSS is not your responsibility. Focus on caring for your own little one. You don't have to put in with an ungrateful teenager who doesn't even belong to you.

You deserve to be treated with respect in your own home. Call your DSS out on his disrespect to you and tell him firmly that it is unacceptable, as you would any other unrelated teenager behaving to you in this way. Demand that your DH sorts it out. Ignore the meal comments and just stop cooking or doing chores for him (his dad can do those). You are not a domestic slave to be abused or an emotional punchbag. Leave his care/education to those adults who are responsible for him (your DH/DSS mum). Take your little one for a nice trip to the playground or picnic in the park, buy him an ice-cream and sod the DSS home-schooling.

AlternativePerspective · 10/08/2020 12:02

I think people are too quick to say that a step parent shouldn’t care because it’s not their responsibility etc.

At the end of the day this child spends time living in the OP’s home, and whether the parents are parenting well or not the OP doesn’t deserve to be spoken to like that.

OP you say this child is difficult anyone, so chances are that you’re feeling it more because you’re married to his dad and therefore closer to the situation. But your DH needs to pull him up on it and make it clear it’s not acceptable to speak to anyone like that.

And actually so does his mum. The hope should always be that we bring our kids up to be able to go to other people’s houses and behave well when we’re there. Failure to do that should make people question their parenting.

My DS doesn’t have a good relationship with my ex’s partner, and consequently he doesn’t stay there any more. But if he does go there, if he was rude to her in her own home I would hit the roof.

He doesn’t have to like you, but at thirteen he is bloody well old enough to be told that we don’t speak to people like that, and I would go so far as to say that you have every right to pull him up on it while he’s in your home.

Tiredoftattler · 10/08/2020 15:13

I think that caring about a situation and assuming responsibility for a situation are 2 very different things. The OP is taking actions regarding the child's in-home instruction and over sight and then resenting the parents because she chooses to do those things.

As a matter of fact, she does not have to do those things; instead she makes a deliberate choice to do those things. The only person who is responsible for her choice is the OP as she is acting in accordance with her choice.

As a spouse/partner, I think one of the hardest things to recognize and accept is that your spouse/partner has the right to rear his/her child as they see fit. It does not have to be consistent with the partner's views on child rearing.

The partner has a right to expect to be treated with courtesy at all times. The partner has a right to decide if they are willing to live with the other partner's child rearing practices. The partner has every right to disagree or disapprove of the manner in which a child is being reared, and they have every right to refuse to participate in that process. At the same time, it is the right of the parents to decide how they wish to parent, and in most cases, they are not seeking or asking for input.

If you cannot live with the way that your partner chooses to parent, the solution is to live apart and to accept the fact that your parenting style is not the only effective parenting style.

Effective and responsible adults around the world grow up in homes with varied parenting styles, cultural practices, morals, and socioeconomic differences.

There is no singular and absolutely right parenting style. There are many, many styles and methods that lead to acceptable outcomes.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page