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VERY, VERY long - dsd seems miserable and we're not sure how to help her

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Mumpbump · 23/07/2007 16:07

Dsd has just turned 10. She can be quite a difficult/moody child, but on the whole is really a very nice, thoughtful girl. I've known her for almost 5 years and we get on well as friends, but I am not "maternal" towards her as I don't want to be seen as trying to compete in any way with her mum. She gets lots of hugs and kisses from dh and ds though.

Her mum was diagnosed with lymphoma a couple of years ago and has come through it, but now has suspected lupus - she is undergoing tests. At home with her mum, I think they clash a bit because dsd is quite strong-willed and she is apparently very lazy around the house whilst her older brother mucks in a lot. At our house (I think primarily because she is a bit of a "daddy's girl"), she does help out quite a bit. Apparently, despite her mum's recent illness, which has been very debilitating from what I can tell - she can't drive, can't hold a cup, etc - my dsd is still reluctant to help her mum with housework/tidying.

Her brother is almost 14, good at most stuff (except practical/common-sense things where she is better) and very competitive. Dss is developing a bit of a habit of putting her down all the time which I think is rather nasty of him and I have said to dh that he needs to have a word with him about this. They are also bickering a lot which their mum is finding particularly difficult to cope with because of her illness. I suspect it's just their age, ie. both approaching puberty, but it doesn't help the situation.

She dotes on ds who is almost 18 months and bonded really well with him initially. But he has become very keen on footballs and now has more in common with dss. So, in his socially innocent way, ds is showing a preference for dss who will happily play with him for hours, kicking and throwing around footballs. If I take ds to the park, dss will come, but she won't so dss is spending more time with ds anyway. I'm also pg with no. 2, but I don't think that's worrying her as she seems quite excited about it generally.

In addition to all this, dh told me yesterday that her best friend at school is apparently being moved to another school because of bullying so (I think) she is also worried about what next year is going to be like. He is pretty sure dsd isn't being bullied as he says she wouldn't put up with it. I think I probably agree with him as she's generally a little toughie!

All in all, she is going through a fairly tricky time in her life and has been quite withdrawn and moody when she has stayed with us over the last couple of months. She apparently feels "got at" by everyone - I think this is partly because she compares unfavourably with her brother who is extremely easy-going and helpful whereas she can be quite sulky and obstinate, but she obviously doesn't see that.

I have suggested to dh that she help him with ds' bath at weekends so that she has a bit of bonding time with him without her brother around. I can't really think of anything else which she and he could do together. Dh also says that we will have her by herself for a weekend some time in the near future which might help, but is unlikely to change things long-term.

Dh has spoken to both of them about the arguing which seems to have fallen on deaf ears. As his way of talking to them hasn't worked, I have said that although I generally try to keep out of parenting issues, I will talk to them if he wants me to and take a tougher line - ie. cut the cr*p, your mother has got enough to be coping with and you're both old enough to start be more considerate towards her. I think they'd probably accept a tougher line from me although I'm not sure it will make any more difference than dh's "chat".

So my questions are:

  1. I am quite worried about her because she really does seem quite unhappy and I guess I'm wondering, is her behaviour just an age thing?

  2. Has anyone got any other ideas on how we can try to reassure her/cheer her up?

  3. Has anyone got any ideas on how to sort out the bickering or is it inevitable in siblings of this age? Do you think being "told it straight" is something which 10 and 14 year olds will get? Or do you think I should keep my nose out? At the moment, I've suggested having them on alternate weekends which means their mum won't get a break, but she might nevertheless get an easier life...

Any constructive comments welcome... Thanks in advance!

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CarGirl · 23/07/2007 16:12

I suggest you get hold of the book "how to talk so kids will listen and listen so kids will talk" and the book by the same authors "sibling without rilvary" and you and dh and exdw read them both!

I'm wondering if she's a bit depressed has she had someone neutral to talk to about all of it, she has had a tough ride learnt a lot of stuff young???

Some periods of one at a time would probably do all of them some good, are you able to have her during the hols (along with her friend??) or do you work?

Mumpbump · 23/07/2007 16:18

Well, I was wondering if I could be the neutral person, but don't want to tread on anyone's toes... I am worried that she is actually a bit depressed as it seems to have been going on for a long time now. It's more than just a "mood".

Do you really think the books would help? I'm quite into understanding what makes people tick, but dh tends to be quite dismissive of "self-help" books. Dh is very competitive and I think he holds himself partly responsible for dss being so competitive with his sister which doesn't help.

I think they're going to come for long weekends during the school holidays. I do feel very strongly that she needs some serious one-to-one time with her dad at the moment...

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CarGirl · 23/07/2007 16:23

They are very good books especially siblings without rivalry as it shows us how easily we roles onto our children "the helpful one", "obstinate moddy one" etc etc. I think it can be very hard for a child to admit to anyone how they feel - perhaps "I hate my Mum for being ill, she isn't a proper mum" - can you imagine the guilt - I was being a counsellor really, there is family therapy out there via NHS

It has techniques etc to use to stop the competitiveness, comparisons stuff like that? Also how to let them vent, how to help to connect to their emotional side?????

maisiedaisy · 23/07/2007 16:29

No advice but what a caring person you are, your Dsd is very lucky to have such a lovely step mum looking out for her

Mumpbump · 23/07/2007 16:33

Thanks cargirl for the tip. I have now ordered the books from Amazon. Hopefully, they might give us some ideas... I do think the usual sibling rivalry is getting a bit out of hand!

Thanks, Maisie. It's just very frustrating not knowing what might help her and she's usually such a chatty little thing...

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CarGirl · 23/07/2007 19:07

"being a counsellor"
"meaning a counsellor" that should read - I was hurrying!!!!!!!!!!! I would certainly try the alternate weekends thing, it would give dsd an opportunity to help at home without being compared to brother and give both of them one on one time with their Mum and hopefully their Dad.

Have to say you sound like a fantastic step Mum!

Hassled · 23/07/2007 19:16

I think being a 10 year old girl absolutely sucks - you're still a child but with adult hormones starting to kick in. It sounds horribly reminiscent of problems I had with my DD (again against a background of a difficult time at home) and her over-achieving, confident, popular brother. It's never really changed - I don't know if it's a birth order thing or just personalities, but you can't assume siblings will necessarily ever really like each other (however much they love each other). I think more involvement with your DS sounds like a great solution - "can you read him a story so I can put some washing in" and then lots of praise about what an invaluable help she is.
10 and 14 year olds can certainly be "told it straight" - they are old enough to be considerate, whatever difficulties they have. And I have to say you sound like an absolutely wonderful stepmother .

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