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DSD(10) denies starting puberty

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twentytimes · 19/11/2018 10:11

DSD is 11 in 2 months. She started puberty at the end of last year and has had her period since the summer which she is all completely in denial about. She insists that she hasn't started her period, doesn't have boobs, doesn't have body hair and doesn't need deodorant whenever I've try to talk to her about it which I know isn't the case. She spends most of her time here and its not something that her mum will have anything to do with so leaving it to her isn't an option. Her dad tried to talk to her but basically just told her to come to me and I will help and dsd denied to him that anything was happening.

I've bought her everything she could possibly use and nothing has even been opened. Deodorant isn't a huge problem as she showers every morning and only smells a bit by the end of the day but it shows how set she is on refusing to acknowledge anything to do with puberty. Not wearing a bra or shaving also wouldn't be an issue if she wasn't interested in either but she refuses to wear anything other than baggy tops with sleeves and long trousers so she obviously isn't comfortable with her chest or body hair.

She has pads in her room and in the bathroom which she knows about and how to use but chooses to use toilet roll instead which shes hidden in various places in her room. Every month her underwear, bedding and most of her clothes end up with blood on and stuffed in the bottom of her wardrobe. I put a special rubbish bin and laundry bin with a lids on in her room but they still go somewhere else and I've put pads in some of her underwear for her to just take out but they have just been pushed to the back.

I've tried being sensitive and kind about it. I've haven't spoke to her about it out loud for the last two months and have given her a few notes instead and have always cleared everything up discretely for her so she doesn't get embarrassed but I ha vent achieved anything.

I feel really out of my depth, I'm not very good at this sort of thing and I think we are probably quite different. Its not something I was embarrassed about or would have done at her age so I can't understand how she feels or why despite being given everything she needs to make it easier to deal with she is still choosing to make everything more difficult. I'm starting to get frustrated by it now and have no idea but what I'm supposed to do next. I'm considering being a bit strict with her and making her come and clean up if I find anything but don't know if that's the wrong thing to do and will just push her away and make it more difficult?

I suspect me being just her step mum and her not having a mum she can talk to is part of the problem which is also something I am no good at talking about.

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twentytimes · 19/11/2018 15:07

And no Somerville I don't think she should shave her body hair. I said that wouldn’t be an issue if she just didn’t want to but she wore thick black tights/ jeans and sleeved tops even when it was boiling and refuses to go swimming which is something she normally loves so she obviously is uncomfortable about it.

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FeckingEjit · 19/11/2018 15:21

When was the last time you saw her arms and legs OP?

Somerville · 19/11/2018 15:24

My mind wouldn't go straight to her feeling self-conscious about body hair because of those things, OP.

As I said before, this child is being failed by her parents.Tthey should be intervening. If her father was pushing this off onto you because she was opening up to you, and you were happy with it, that would be different. But despite your best efforts DSD is not opening up to you, and she needs further intervention. Her school and GP or a counsellor or whatever won't talk to you, but they will talk to her father.

twentytimes · 19/11/2018 16:03

Not for over 6 months @FeckingEjit
I will keep an eye out for evidence of selfharming because I do see why people are suggesting that but I don't think its whats going on. I can tell from her clothes and bedding that the blood is from her period and nothing else and I have seen her forearms which are fine.

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swingofthings · 19/11/2018 16:16

Why oh why aren't her mother or father talking to her about it? You seem to be acting a parent to this girl than her parents which thankful but ultimately, she probably wants her parents to do so.

This is not the dark ages any longer and father who think this is not their role really annoy me. It's not just about the logistics of it all but about the emotional aspe t of it. If you block the emotional, you block the physical and if this girl has issues with pare ts who can't be there for her emotionally, it's not surprising she feels confused. Thank god your here but she needs her mum and dad.

If I were you, I'd tell my partner to grow a pair and start acting like a father.

twentytimes · 19/11/2018 17:05

Even if her mum was willing to have the conversation it would not be done sensitively or kindly. She would normally prefer to talk and get me to help with things like this rather than her dad but if I have no success tonight he will have to take it further.

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BasilFaulty · 19/11/2018 17:35

Leave her alone, you're over invested
FFS Grin Grin Good old step parenting board, eh?

You sound like you're about the only person this poor girl has to help her out OP. She's lucky to have you. Flowers

Perfectly1mperfect · 19/11/2018 18:11

Poor girl, she's very obviously struggling. Her mum sounds absolutely crap. There was a thread on here a while ago about how women's mums had dealt with them starting their periods. Some stories were heartbreaking. Some were not provided with sanitary protection, others were told to hide it from their dad, as dads shouldn't have to see it, even wrappers from sanitary towels. The thread was shocking.

Thankfully this girl has you and I also think her dad needs to step up. Keep trying to talk to her, lots of love, lots of hugs and lots of reassurance. Go over everything again with her. Be firm that she has to use some sort of sanitary protection. Let her know that you won't bat an eyelid at any bedding or knickers that need washing, nothing matters. Tell her it doesn't mean she's not still a child. Make sure she knows she can ask you absolutely anything and mostly make sure you both tell her how much you love her. She's still young, it may get easier for her as more of her friends start their periods.

twentytimes · 19/11/2018 19:54

Thank you everyone. There was a lot of tears but she eventually spoke to me about it. There's no self harming or anything else going on she's just really embarrassed and stressed by it all.
She said she thinks she's disgusting because she got blood on everything and didn't clean it up properly and was worried I thought that too and was annoyed because I stopped talking to her about it. She's scared that anyone will find out so wanted to use toilet roll as its quieter and she can pretend she had a nose bleed if anyone sees it.

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NottonightJosepheen · 19/11/2018 20:08

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Dontknowwhatimdoing · 19/11/2018 20:09

Oh bless her, poor kid! It sounds like you are doing a great job OP, just keep doing what you are doing.

CrAzYmUmOf2 · 19/11/2018 20:35

Awww bless her the poor girl.
My eldest still gets embarrassed having her period and going to school and using sanitary towels. They do make a noise and some girls hate it. I hated it. And she's only 10.
Well done to you. You're an amazing step mum xx

FeckingEjit · 19/11/2018 20:56

Your update broke my heart OP. Are there any type of pads which are fabric so they don't make noise? Could you show her how to use the washing machine so that in future she will be able to wash the stuff herself (not that she has too, just maybe she will feel a bit less embarrassed if she knows she can sort it out herself). I think this will be a thing which gets easier as her friends get older and start their periods but good on you for getting to the bottom of it. She clearly has a lot of love and trust for you. Just keep on with the reassurance that bleeding through is normal and happens to everyone, there is nothing for her to be ashamed of. In a few years time all of her friends will be going to her for advice.

twentytimes · 19/11/2018 21:37

It broke my heart too, I've never seen her so upset. It should have been dealt with months ago as it’s just been building up inside her head and she's worried about way more than she should ever have but its being sorted now.
I think fabric pads are what she wants to try, didnt like the idea of period pants but I will get some of those too.

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Bonkerz · 19/11/2018 21:49

My dd was exactly the same as this. She started her periods about 18 months ago age 11. She was in total denial. Wouldn't wear bras etc. I found pads hid in her bedroom and she smelt bad most of the time.
I was tough. I did the uncomfortable talk and said if she didn't want to discuss it with me it was fine but she couldn't ignore it happening and the best way to avoid any more talk was to follow the rules. We chucked away her crops so she had to wear bras. She has a bin with a lid in her room but I still have to tell her to bath and use deodorant. She won't even tell me when she has a period still so I buy pads and put them in bathroom.

Santaispolishinghissleigh · 19/11/2018 21:52

Could you log her periods on an app for her? Give her some notice when she is due? Maybe less of a shock if you can remind her a couole of days before.

Perfectly1mperfect · 19/11/2018 21:59

Really pleased to hear that your chat went well with her. You sound lovely, she'll remember you being so kind to her when she's older and appreciate the lovely step mum she has. If only every child could have someone so caring in their life.

PrettyLovely · 19/11/2018 22:00

Glad you managed to get her to open up to you op, You sound like a fab step mum.

whatsnewchoochoo · 19/11/2018 22:11

You do sound like a really lovely step mum. Smile

bumbother · 19/11/2018 23:01

Well done, Op. 10 is still little. Made me sad to think of her trying to sort herself quietly in the bathroom Sad It's a shame she has to go through this so soon.

bluebell2017 · 19/11/2018 23:14

If your dsd is embarrassed about the sound of wrappers, I think lil-lets pads have a special quiet wrapping.

GrandmaSharksDentures · 19/11/2018 23:25

Could you get a radio to have next to the toilet which she can turn on to help disguise any noise? Only helpful at home though

Etino · 19/11/2018 23:31

You really do sound lovely.
And it’s made me remember something I’d forgotten for nearly 40 years. I too started young and would hide dirty pants through embarrassment. No abuse and no angst either, it was just too much to work out what to do with them.
Flowers & 🍫

Runnynosehunny · 19/11/2018 23:37

My dd started her periods at 10 which is quite young and none of her friends had started so she felt she couldn't really talk to them about it on the same level and she was the odd one out. She used to like watching things on YouTube about periods and puberty and her favourite youtubers talking in a funny, matter of fact way helped her. Maybe that would help your dd too?

HoppingPavlova · 20/11/2018 06:11

Is wearing them everyday even if she's not on her period a good idea?

My DD does as she is paranoid about her period arriving and leaking on her clothes. She does not run to the day on the calendar and can be a week or so early or late. She used to wear pads a week before period was due ‘in case’ but once she got period pants her preference was to wear those. Apparently they are also really comfy so she decided to wear them every day instead of having two types of undies. Having said that she did originally try a local brand of period pants but was not that impressed with sizing/fit (sizing ran big and she is tiny) but once she tried another brand that was recommended she was sold.

She also wears them at night as again she worries about getting periods during the night and having to clean up sheets. As she now prefers these over normal undies in regards to comfort they are also worn every night periods or not. Previously her normal undies were cotton. So she wears one pair of a day, showers of an evening, puts on a new pair and then changes into a fresh pair again on waking up. It was pretty expensive when she announced she wanted to wear them full time instead of normal undies as I got enough to allow 2 pairs a day with washing once a week so 15 pairs in total. Obviously when she has her period they are washed every day. It wouldn’t be as expensive an outlay if you just wanted enough to use during periods. They are meant to last 2 years. She has had this brand for a year so I can’t say if that’s true or not. I’m guessing the leakproof aspect starts to disappear around the 2 year mark?

She has not had any health issues wearing them daily but then again did not have any issue wearing her old cotton undies daily either.

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