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AIBU to think this is totally out of whack?

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monkeywithasuitcase · 10/08/2017 14:56

Fairly new relationship, about 1 year in.

We have DSS (11) 2 weeks out of each month full-time during school holidays, and for this 2 weeks, we're staying at my mum's place in France.

I've had my concerns about the dynamic between the three of us for a while, but on holiday... everything always gets clearer / magnified, and I'm just about at breaking point.

We've been here 4 days and I've not had more than 10 minutes with DP to have a conversation. I feel like the third wheel - like I'm gatecrashing their romantic getaway.

My mum set up a double mattress in her home office to add another 2 sleeping spaces in addition to the sofa. DP seems to assume that he and DSS will be sleeping together on the mattress, and says we can see if we can all squeeze in together. The past 2 nights I've been on the couch, because WTF...

DP showers with him. He dresses him. I've not seen DSS do up his own shoelaces or fetch himself so much as a glass of water. As soon as they're both awake they're glued at the hip. We walk down the street, they're dawdling behind me with their arms wrapped around one another. I try to join and walk with them, and somehow I end up behind or in front – not that they're talking to me anyway. We sit on the train – they're gazing into each other's eyes, DP is stroking his head, they're talking in hushed tones, and I'm sat there like a lemon.

We went to a theme park the other day. DP's standing in the line for rides with his arm around his son and the other one leaning on the fence, so he has his back to me and I'm literally blocked out of their space. Anyone looking would think we'd never met.

We went into town for a walk – again, I'm doing my best impression of a satellite while they're arm in arm, largely ignoring me.

Then DSS decides he needs to go to the bathroom. I point out a cafe to use, and then stand on my own in the street for 15 minutes while DP accompanies his 11 year old son to take a poo.

Sitting on the couch, DSS asks for a cushion. DP whips one out from under my arm without so much as making eye contact with me, and hands it to DSS.

DSS has no bedtime, or even "go and spend some time in your room even if you don't want to sleep yet" time, so whenever we get back from a trip out, DP and DSS snuggle up together for the evening watching video games on Youtube until DSS passes out, while I sit in the other room with my mother, who's totally confused about why my boyfriend is choosing to ignore the adults (his girlfriend and her mother, not a hotel manager) and be with his son (who he's been wrapped up in all day) instead.

I've been close to tears over and over for the past few days, needing to talk to DP about it, but DSS is always there - we've had ZERO time just the two of us. Last night I nearly lost it - I had about an hour's sleep after spinning circles in my brain all night.

Am I missing something? Am I being unreasonably jealous? Is it normal to be completely goo-goo 100% of the time over an almost-teenager?

Worth saying DSS is a LOVELY kid – I genuinely like him a lot.

But this is starting to feel like a deal breaker. As far as I'm aware, the adult couple is a unit of partners and the child, especially at 11, is learning to spread his/her wings and do things for themselves. Learn some independence and know that there's a safe space with people who love them to run back to.

This feels like they're the couple and I'm an afterthought.

I can't criticise DP's parenting - it's not my place, even though it's light years from how I'd raise my kids – but when it has an impact on me... AIBU to say what I'm feeling and expect a bit of attention every now and again?

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talonofthehawk · 10/08/2017 15:01

How old is DSS?

I'd just go home

talonofthehawk · 10/08/2017 15:02

Sorry- you said 11.

I'd ask your mum to invent an issue so you could go home.
He can infantilise his 11 year old at home.

Psychologika · 10/08/2017 15:04

She showers with his 11 year old? That's pretty unusual...

Isadora2007 · 10/08/2017 15:06

That's weird. Sorry but an 11 year old should not be accompanied to the toilet or the shower (unless non neuro-typical). It's actually very creepy of your partner to be so fixated and it sounds like he is encouraging a co-dependency there which is not fair for his child.

I would be asking for family therapy on return or walking away from this unhealthy unit.

talonofthehawk · 10/08/2017 15:06

Leave him... Norman bates territory here.

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Oswin · 10/08/2017 15:09

Yeah fuck that. I would walk away. Whats he going to be like when dss starts to develop a social life?

MarmaladeIsMyJam · 10/08/2017 15:10

Super creepy. I don't think I could stay with him.

MirandaWest · 10/08/2017 15:12

How much time does your DSS spend with your DP usually? This sounds as if he feels as if he needs to spend all the time he can with him.

I wouldn't be happy with that at all. My dc are 13 and 11 and are mostly with DH and me (not their dad) but we are the ones who hold hands etc when we're out. Might go with one of them to find a toilet but not shower or be in the toilet with them.

How long have you and your DP been together?

ImperialBlether · 10/08/2017 15:14

That is the weirdest thing I've heard. How can you possibly be attracted to a man like this? How can he think he's having a normal relationship with his son?

Honestly? I'd dump him.

ImperialBlether · 10/08/2017 15:15

Can I ask whether it's the same when you're at home?

Do you earn a lot more than your partner, making it possible for him to have a better life than he would alone?

honeysucklejasmine · 10/08/2017 15:21

I'm surprised an 11 year old puts up with that.

Mrscropley · 10/08/2017 15:30

This isn't going to get any better op.
In 4 years him and ds will be no different. . .except ds will be taller!!

monkeywithasuitcase · 10/08/2017 16:27

So I'm not nuts? It's OK for me to be at the end of my patience?

MirandaWest, he and DSS's mum split up 8 years ago. DSS spends 2 weekends and 4 afternoons a month with us. We've been together just about a year, and I moved in last month. I think DP feels a lot of guilt over the split as he had a very broken family himself, and now 'Disney Dad's to make up for it.

And Imperial, it's similar. When DSS is over at weekends they sit around playing video games all day - dishes don't get done, they leave the kitchen in a state, they're up taking over the living room until 1am...life just seems to hit 'pause' and everything's about DSS. When we're alone, DP is a wonderful partner. This is the only thing that's a problem for me in our relationship. But it's a BIG one, no doubt - and I'm only really feeling the size of it now that it's been full-time for an extended period of time...

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Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 10/08/2017 16:34

I had this to some extent with my DH and DSD years ago. There are two ways of looking at it, you can make the best of it, negotiate one or two ground rules (e.g. You share his bed not his son-that is a bit weird) and hang around a few years until your DPs son gets to the point where he doesn't want to spend much time with his dad, probably in a couple of years time, or you can walk away. I guess it depends whether you feel it's worth it. Very hard though Flowers

MadMags · 10/08/2017 16:36

DH was a completely Disney Dad when SD was younger but this is a bit creepy, tbh!

monkeywithasuitcase · 10/08/2017 16:37

Thanks, Slightlyperturbedowlagain – do you mind me asking what the situation was for you? And what did you do?

I don't want to be the person who's criticising how he parents. It's not my job. But it is my job to speak up when it impacts on me... it's just so hard to not have the two melt into one another...

I've told him we need to go for a drink this evening - just the two of us - to talk, and I'm worried I'll overstep the mark in expressing my irritation...

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Dustbunny1900 · 10/08/2017 16:39

I'm sorry, say what? He showers with his pre teen son?! Sleeps with him?? Accompanies him to the bathroom? Does he wipe his bum for him too? Wait, don't answer that.
That is completely inappropriate for a kid that age, completely. That is such an unhealthy creepy dynamic, he's going to mess this poor child up. Get the hell outta that situation , least in my opinion

AlternativeTentacle · 10/08/2017 16:40

Move out. It is not going to get any better.

SerfTerf · 10/08/2017 16:41

Don't be irritated, be very concerned.

But, honestly, it sounds like too big a job for you to tackle. He clearly lacks insight and his parenting instincts are skewed beyond recognition.

Why would you want to be the woman who dies on that hill?

AnneLovesGilbert · 10/08/2017 16:44

Do you and DP share a bed when you're home and DSS has his own bed/room? I just can't get my head around it at all. I'm one of 4 and to a degree we all thrived on benign neglect as DM juggled us all. But that's actually pretty healthy.

What's DSS's relationship with his Mum like?

The whole thing has made me feel very uncomfortable. You're not nuts at all, but you're also not going to be able to change how he is and it's a huge deal breaker so I think you need to look at ending the relationship. Sorry. How long till you're back home?

HerRoyalNotness · 10/08/2017 16:47

I'd send him and his son home and enjoy the rest of your holiday with your mum alone. Then move out when you get back.

This is beyond weird

AnneLovesGilbert · 10/08/2017 16:48

Oh god, sorry, another week and a half?! I agree, get your Mum to have a house disaster or a dangerously infectious disease, or some sort of vague distressing "women's issues" and end the holiday so you can go home and she can have her house back.

How is she finding it having her home taken over by what sounds like canoodling lovers with no house training who stay up all night hogging the telly! You're a much better woman than I am to not have truly lost your shit by now. Go home woman and find somewhere else to live!

SerfTerf · 10/08/2017 16:50

Don't take this as a criticism OP, but the world is FULL of wonderful capable women using themselves up and making themselves miserable trying to "fix" inferior men.

Why be one? Seriously, why do it to yourself?

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 10/08/2017 16:51

Of course, my DH did the classic over-compensating thing for my DSD who was (a) very insecure and (b) very jealous of his attention. I can't say any details of why, but they were fairly justifiable feelings for an 11 year old given what had happened. She spent half the time with us, including all weekend for several years so it was not easy for me when she was being very limpet-like and I had to continually remind myself that she was a small confused child. I found it worked well to get them to spend one day per weekend on their own together and the other day all three of us, and DH and I went out/spent time together one or two evenings in the week instead. By the time she was 14 she was not so bothered about being with her dad so we had far more time to ourselves and she was happy when we got married (and got a lovely bridesmaid dress Wink) We waited until she was 17 before we had more DCs and she is an awesome big sister and now a very well-adjusted fantastic 29 year old, and we are so proud of her Smile