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Stepchildren not wanting to see their bio mum

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lulustepmum · 05/07/2017 15:01

Could really do with some helpful advice. My step children only see their mum every other weekend. It's come to the point where the kids don't want to go over to hers at all due to how she acts around them. She never listens, talks about herself, doesn't take them anywhere (these are the things the kids have told me) Recently their mum wanted to take them away on holiday to Spain but the day she wanted to take them is the day we fly back from holiday ourselves. She messaged my SD whilst at school (to ask about the dates we go away on holiday even though my other half had told her the previous day) She kept calling and texting my SD and found my SD rather rude which she was not, she only text her to say she is at school speak later.
The whole thing got even more heated after school and in the end her mum disowned her, told my SD that she had had enough of her disrespectful attitude, that I am her mother now and she shouldnt bother to see her ever again. My SD just text back "fine"
It's been 3 weeks since then and my SC are meant to see their mum this weekend. She messaged my other half yesterday to make sure they are coming over but my SD doesn't want to go due to what was said 3 weeks ago and she hasn't received an apology. Also her mum blocked her number and from all social media channels too!
Myself and my other half have been trying to solve this and informed her the kids don't want to see her because of what happened but she thinks that my SD should apologise to her.
I have no idea what to do! Whatever we suggest my other half is met with abuse, she is very unreasonable and thinks everyone else is in the wrong but not her.
Advice would be ever so helpful!
Thank You x

OP posts:
MaisyPops · 05/07/2017 22:52

Patriciathestripper1
Because she isn't in the biological sense. I have an issue with deciding that a step dad is dad over the non-resident dad so for consistency I use parent/step parent in general with no judgement either way. You can be a great/lousy parent and great/lousy step parent.

That said, if the child wanted to start calling a step parent mum/dad then I'd run with that and use their preferred terms because as you say a great step parent does all the stuff a mum/dad would.

Patriciathestripper1 · 05/07/2017 23:00

Fair enough explanation.

swingofthings · 06/07/2017 07:32

Lulu, I'm in the same situation that you, except it's the most classic one in my case and DS14 who suddenly doesn't want to go and visit their dad.

Like your SS's mum, they've never build a strong relationship. His dad is very self-centered and has never really shown much interest in him as a person, and has never asked him anything about his life outside of his own world. He is very family oriented, which is great, but he considers that he (and his sister) should be as happy to come and see his partner and her children as him.

I did see it coming and frankly, have been surprised that DS has continued to go regularly until recently. They never ever do anything outside of home and chores, and children are left to entertain themselves completely, which wouldn't be so bad except that there isn't room to do so and the kids are different age/gender, which means that even though they get along well, they don't have a lot in common.

DS never gets to do things with his dad alone, and even when they do spent a bit of time together, they never have meaningful discussions. To add to this, DS, although sociable, is the type of kid who has always needed his own space to retreat. As a teenager, this has become even more important to him and he can only cope so long with group socialising. Unfortunately, not only he doesn't get that space there, but he is critisized for it. I think they are all the opposite, love being with others constantly and hate being alone, so they struggle to understand why he feels the way he does and they take his wishes to retreat as a rejection. This has lead to DS gradually feeling guilty yet their attitude also makes him feel rejected.

I have told him to speak to his dad about it, but he says they don't have that sort of relationship where they can talk about things, and I do understand because indeed, that was a problem with my relationship with him as he never wanted to 'talk' about things, always avoiding the subject.

The thing is, I am genuinely devastated for my son that he feels the way he does and would truly love for him to have a good relationship with his dad and his family. I would much much prefer that he wants to go there, but I do understand how he feels and as such, wouldn't want to force him. I've spoken to him about things could be made better, but I don't want to preach and I know that there isn't much he can do to change the situation.

I could get involve, try to speak with my ex (who I haven't spoken to for many years) or his partner (who I've never spoken to), but I know it will be futile because I'll face the same response than my DS is getting, ie. nothing is my ex's fault, it's all my DS, only he should be making changes in his attitude, and somehow, the conversation will end up with it being all my fault too!

The situation was predictable and I really do believe that the only resolution would be for my ex to actually question why our son is refusing to go and self-reflect on what he could do make things before, but that would mean him taking responsibility for the situation and however much I'd hope he did so, I very much doubt it will happen.

So I won't force my DS to go, nor will I get involved. I will continue to encourage him to try to speak to his dad, and if my ex were to contact me to ask me my advice, I would genuinely try to help, but otherwise, all I'll do is whatever I believe is best for my son, and that's to make sure that he feels no pressure to go just to appease his dad and the guilt he puts upon him.

AltogetherAndrews · 06/07/2017 08:25

Hey op, if you are still reading, just wanted to let you know that it sounds to me like you are doing a great job in difficult circumstances.

And for those jumping up and down about language choices, try reading! Op was very clear about family roles in her life, and her situation, and a bunch of strangers turning up and telling her what her role should be according to their own prejudices is just pathetic. First family!? Seriously offended by that one. The op, like me is the one doing all the work, and the one actually thinking about the children's needs. That makes her a parent. My step children and my step parents are not "second" ranked. They are my family. If their mother actually parented them, then great, I'd have a back seat role, and life would be much simpler. But she didn't, so, like the op, you step up and raise them. Only to come on here and be torn apart when you have a genuine problem. Nice.

pinkbraces · 06/07/2017 08:58

OP, please ignore the posters who get hung up about the term bio mum. You have explained why you used it in this context. Some people just like to moan Hmm

Whomever said the 15 yr old needs to see her mum or would be forced to either by court order or carcass has no idea what they are talking about.
My SD walked out of her mothers home 6 years ago when she was 14. She has not spoken to her since that day. She has had various counselling, specifically from the ages of 14 - 16. At all stages of the counselling it was emphasised how important it is too listen and understand why the child had chosen to do this.
I would suggest your SD and SS both have help to understand their feelings and the reasons why.
Good luck to you and your family

Styleangel · 06/07/2017 09:00

So pleased your finally getting some support op, after all that's what it's supposed to be here, supporting each other! It's a tough job being a step parent after all x

lulustepmum · 06/07/2017 09:23

Thank you to those who have provided me with some advice, help and kinds words.

Just one point to make. I have and never will have contact with their mum. I do not text her, call her or email her about the kids and the plans that are made with them. That has been left to my other half. The only time I have contact with their mum is when I take the kids to hers or pick them up. I've even been the one to give her a hug when her relationship broke down and she burst into tears when I collected the kids - so please don't make me out to be a horrible step mum.

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Bambamrubblesmum · 06/07/2017 10:04

I think some people are a bit linear in their thinking and trot out the same old tired outrage regardless of what the original post said, 'bio mum' being a classic example. It becomes a rush to get the outrage in first and derail the thread. People talk about cheaters scripts, well there's definitely a SM one on here Hmm

You're doing your best in a difficult situation. Not all mothers are great mothers. Threatening to disown your daughter and then gaslighting their legitimate feelings is pretty poor parenting. Then wanting to do the nice bit by taking them on holiday is a very shallow action in my opinion.

The mother is the adult regardless of what the daughter said. It's for her to work on fixing the relationship so that it's healthy not do classic disney parenting (let's pretend everything is okay and go on a jolly holiday).

lulustepmum · 06/07/2017 10:27

Thank you bambamrubblesmum - well said! Smile

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SteppingOnToes · 10/07/2017 15:16

What I fail to understand why mothers are allowed to say 'my DP is treating my kids as his own', yet for a SM to do that in a full time residency and it's seen as terrible. Why?

OP it sounds like you are doing a great job in a difficult situation.

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