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DH is considering giving up on contact

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BabylonPoo · 09/09/2014 22:43

DH has a 7 and 8 yr old, I have a 7 yr old, we have a 2 yr old together and I'm heavily pregnant. His exW hates the idea of my DSC being part of our family and has made endless attempts to damage contact - moving without telling us, telling them DH picked us over them, telling them to be mean and spiteful to our DC and so on.

It has been to court and DH was awarded a measly one night eow. ExW claims one child needs counselling and the other has a tic because they're so traumatised at being with us/away from her. She packs photos of herself and secret phones, whispers in their ear and makes them cry at collection and makes them feel guilty if they say anything about us. She's asked for cafcass to investigate because she claims the children hate contact, but when they're here they are (mostly) very happy and asking to stay.

Recently, she's been getting one or both DCs to phone and tell DH they want to miss contact because X,Y,Z is happening at mums house. When he says no, they're in floods of tears and exW gives him lots of abuse for upsetting them. She then reminds them what they're missing at collection so they'll be upset again and encourages them to be horrid here so he might send them back home.

This weekend it's my DDs birthday. We've booked a weekend away at Alton Towers for us and all DC. DHs DC rang yesterday saying there's a christening they want to go to on Sunday and demanding that he returns them Saturday evening (after collecting them Sat morning!) We areaalready driving two hours extra to collect them and DH would miss most of Saturday if he returned them. He said no, but DC were both crying and screaming that they'll refuse to come if he doesn't do as they say and his DD made a snide comment that if she's going to be miserable and not get to do what she wants then she'll be making sure my DD has a miserable birthday. My DD adores DSD but is bought to tears her cruelty often. Being cooped up in a hotel room with two sulking DSC is going to ruin her birthday.

Now they're back at school there's likely to be parties most weekends which they'll ask to miss contact for and kick off if he says no. ExW won't let him take them to parties. He feels like he either has to manhandle screaming crying DC into the car andput up with them bbeing vile all weekend if there was something else they could've been doing, or else arrive to collect them and accept that they refuse to go, thereby meaning exW has breached the order by not encouraging contact and then hopefully there'll be some consequences for her eventually.

I think DH just feels like an interference in their life as exW is making it all be so traumatic for them. Of course he'll try and get his point across to CAFCASS but it's been six years since separation now and her games are getting worse all the time, to the detriment of both DSC and our DC.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? Any advice?

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shey03 · 11/09/2014 17:17

The way I have coped 2 years on is by detaching. In the beginning, with a blank sheet of paper, the dsc embraced me, for a week or two until dm didn't like it and then the shit hit the fan. It hasn't got better despite mine and dp's best efforts, our caring, kindness and devotion is no match for a resident parents vindictiveness/manipulation. But my sanity has returned and my relationship with dp is really close again.

I guess what people are saying is try detaching for a bit and maybe him seeing them on his own is the answer, HOWEVER it will probably always be a problem to a degree.

And jeez some of the advice around here lately, Obviously there's alot of people/children who would prefer for their dear mum or dad to live alone with their cat for the rest of their life because it keeps their other parent happy. Even though other parent has remarried and they like their new spouse... The hate and bitterness perpetuates the belief that the NRP is a useless parent and their spouse the devil incarnate, the reason for all the troubles in their lives. Rather than after a particularly unhappy marriage, see your NRP finally happy and be embraced in a new, bigger happy family yourself.......... I know what I'd choose for me, for my kids. Happiness. However sadly bitterness is common and it breeds bitterness.

And I feel so sorry for my dp, because he has contact cut all the time and if my dp didn't have my kids and I, he'd be ALONE - sadly just the way his kids would like it. He's made to feel guilty for having a life, when he'd spend 27 nights out of a month alone, waiting for his kids to decide to see him...

And to the posters who question the OP's intentions with regards protecting her own children. Ffs, who wouldn't protect their own child from hate, when neither you nor them have done anything to deserve it...... (OP the detaching would help in this area too).

Take some joy in life people, life is not punishment. Op, people like us suffer, because others mete out punishment like they actually get some joy out of it. Go figure.

Bigoleheffer · 11/09/2014 17:29

The ex sounds unhinged but why do you have to engage with her. Can you not have them the agreed times, it's only once a fortnight. Maybe use a third person to drop the kids off etc. any deviation sadly might have to be accepted because I dont think there's much you can do. I think your dh should carry in seeing his kids as planned, accept it might not always work out as planned, don't engage with ex games, keep a firm distance, stick to boundaries and carry on living life. I know it seems simplistic but take it from someone living it from the other side. You simply can't force people to behave the way you want them to but you can set acceptable boundaries and accept the things you cannot change.

BabylonPoo · 11/09/2014 21:18

Yes Wakey, she insists that she doesn't consent to him collecting them and must be there, too. It feels like there's little point getting school collection because even if the headteacher/court were on board with agreeing that it is disruptive that she arrives too, her other DC starts school next year so she will have an excuse to be there.

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WakeyCakey45 · 11/09/2014 22:13

even if the headteacher/court were on board with agreeing that it is disruptive that she arrives too, her other DC starts school next year so she will have an excuse to be there.

Don't underestimate the support the school can give; they facilitated DH having contact during school hours when DSS mum was blocking it. It would be perfectly possible for the school to facilitate pick up from a different part of the school, or an after school club, if that reduces the distress displayed by the DC.

DH decided some time ago that there may be occasions where the long term benefits of other people witnessing DSS mums irrational behaviour outweighed the short term pain of DSS being exposed to it. So, DH attended a school event that he'd been "banned" from by his ex, suspecting that she would kick off. She did, and it was witnessed by DSS and school staff, but which in turn resulted in far more support being given to DSS and the wider family.

daisychain01 · 15/09/2014 13:23

Babylon, you have a lot of complexity to deal with, I am glad that there are many posters who believe your DH should try to hold on to the relationship because in the future, those children may start to want increased access on a weekly basis with their father.

They obviously don't want to be in your "blended" family. They have their own. This is what the mother will be hammering home to those poor children. Not nice, and I would hazzard a guess NOT true!!!

Unfortunately they are so strong manipulated emotionally by their mother that it is dominating their behaviour. If you are prepared to take it through the CAFCAS legal route, then please at least try that. Definitely try for an alteration to the pick up time to be able to collect the children from school. It will change the dynamic massively, the children are emotionally less "charged" from negative influences against their father.

Stay strong x

daisychain01 · 15/09/2014 13:26

I agree with you, wakey my DSS's head teacher, especially his primary school, was extremely supportive. They don't take sides, they have to play a very careful political game, but they do act as a very neutral safe territory to facilitate parental contact if it is being compromised by a negative parent.

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