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Anyone ever walked away from a happy relationship when dsc contact went from eow to fulltime?

114 replies

gingermopped · 26/08/2014 22:37

anyone?
dsd has been saying for ages she wants to live here, tonight the call came.

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WakeyCakey45 · 29/08/2014 15:19

I can't get over the fact that even when a SMum does put her DsCs welfare first, she is still vilified by elements of society.

Does anyone honestly believe that the parents have discussed the implications of a change in primary home on the OPs DSD and that that have made a conscious decision that this is what is best for the child's welfare? That the practicalities of schooling, care, medical needs, personal space and yes, the relationship the DC has with other household members, has been considered by them both?

Only, it sounds to me like they've given it less though than most households would give to buying a goldfish!

Tutt · 29/08/2014 15:52

When you get together at first you draw up rules/contract to how your life will be together, mine was my DS was with me 24/7 his was he was a part time Dad, at no time did I ever agree and he knew that I would be a full time carer for his child as my child was older and I was going into full time study etc.

One Sunday evening he took his child back to the mother BUT when he gets back to our home his child is still with him... This is when I was 'told' the child would be with us 24/7 like the OP no discussion nothing!!

3 years later and my bags are being packed, he STILL Disney parents, he expected me to give up my uni place to cover HIS child care and then expected MY son to babysit his child.

I have tried OP and I am miserable, hurt, heartbroken and tired. IF you do want to try good luck BUT if you don't hey well done for putting yourself and your children first.

Good luck with your scan.

fedupbutfine · 29/08/2014 17:09

Well at the end of the day who is the one moving out? It's not the OP is it because its her home

No, it's their home. If they're married, there's considerable legal 'weight' that goes with that. It's not always that simple, is it?

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WestEndGirlie · 29/08/2014 17:41

Ginger refers to her DP, not DH so she should be ok legally (assuming in England/Wales) .

And even if they were married, they have only been together for 4 years which would be classed in the eyes of the law as a short marriage where you generally take out what you put in. The main exception would be if there were children of the marriage residing in the marital home i.e biological DC or DSC who are resident full-time but in OP's case this exception would go in her favour anyway.

captainmummy · 29/08/2014 17:59

I know it was yesterday, Daisy, but you said 'why are your DC worth more than anyone else's?'. You don't have DC, do you daisy? That's obvious. In fact your posts read like a blokes. A misogynist bloke, at that.
And as for the DC asking your reasons for not being with Daddy - you tell them; you just aren't. Mum and dad s relationship is actually NOTHING to do with the DC. Their relationship with dad (and mum) is important to them, but mum and dad's ? No.

gingermopped · 29/08/2014 18:17

dp and I are not married, together 4 yrs, living together just under 2, I own my house solely in my name, no morgage that he ever contributed to.
so I wont feel at all guilty about telling him to leave.
for the last 2 years he has lived relativly cheap.

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fedupbutfine · 29/08/2014 18:23

I'm glad, ginger. It can be a nightmare. I too own mortgage-free and can't imagine having to give part of it to an ex.

However, that still doesn't take away the fact that whether we like it or not, if ginger's DP told her that she would have to leave if she wanted her children to live with her full-time, people would have something to say about it. I struggle to understand why this is different.

catsmother · 29/08/2014 18:59

There's a big difference between having a mutually respectful conversation with your partner about how you'd like your child to move in - and discussing together every aspect of how that would work - before agreeing to give it a go ...... and somebody telling their partner that this is how things are going to be and if you don't like it "tough" because it's "none of your business, your opinion doesn't matter and it's up to me" - particularly when they're expecting you to act as the child's FT carer almost 24./7. Personally, I'd also think that such a momentous life change should be something that's also discussed between the child's mother and her partner - because there has to be a mutual agreed stance going forward between both parents (and their partners) so said child can't play one household off against the other - (potentially) bouncing between the two whenever she wants, e.g. to avoid punishment, to take advantage of what she sees as less firm "rules" and/or to punish whichever parent she feels aggrieved at that week.

I suspect the reason why Ginger has asked her DP to leave isn't because he wants his daughter to live with them but because of his appalling contemptuous attitude towards her. She's already experienced that when she was scapegoated for this child's lies but this week has reinforced how he really sees his partner.

As Wakey says however, less consideration seems to have been given to the situation than most people would regarding getting a goldfish and as Tutt's story illustrates this is the sort of thing where it's absolutely essential to cross as many t's and dot as many i's as you can possibly imagine before taking the next step. For everyone's sake.

If this story was the other way round I expect any sensible person would want to know the ins and outs of it before judging OP. If a woman expected her partner to take on - as in actually providing FT childcare - her children without any consideration towards his feelings or opinions, AND, spoke to him in such a disrespectful and dismissive manner, I'd feel just as angry towards her as I feel towards Ginger's DP. IMO the only double standards in this sorry tale are the DP's, NOT Ginger's and while I can't speak for other posters, I don't think my attitude to something like this would be different if it was a man complaining about the same thing either.

Anyway, debating all this is a bit of a moot point because Ginger's bravely decided to stand up for herself and do this alone. As I said before I feel his behaviour and attitude to her is practically emotionally abusive - she's certainly not treated as an equal as she should be - and that's good enough reason for them to split, not least so Ginger's kids don't grow up getting the message that it's okay for women to be treated like worthless chattels by (some) men. The SD issue has brought this to a head but I really don't think that specifically is why they're splitting up - he's not behaving like a loving supportive partner.

izziewizzie · 29/08/2014 19:19

Ginger, I'm really glad you've found the courage to tell him to leave, I wish I could do that, but circumstances with my DH and children prevent it right now.

Tutt, your story is very similar to mine. It's amazing how much unhappiness is caused when you are just informed how things will be, and it seems your position is to shut up, take it, but still do everything.....

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 29/08/2014 19:34

When are you going to tell him Ginger. We are right behind you!

I think anyone saying otherwise is either a trouble making twat who infests as many threads as possible, being as difficult as possible (no names of course! Hmm) or is completely missing the point.

This isn't about not wanting a child to live with you, this is about a partner who is using you and treating you like crap and that's before telling you his child is moving into you house and you will be looking after her far more than he is.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 29/08/2014 19:35

izzie that sounds awful - are you SURE there's not a way around the issues? Any chance if we all put our heads together we could help you work something out??

izziewizzie · 29/08/2014 20:06

Thanks Latte, I think mine is a whole other thread discussion!
I will get there in the end, I'm just venting at the moment.
Thank you anyway x

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 30/08/2014 00:43

izzie - well, you know where we are if you want to talk about it Flowers

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