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VoiceGirl · 22/08/2006 01:04

It's thrilling to find a website for "steps". I'm not even in that role "officially" yet. My SD is about to be 5 and is already quite damaged from a messy divorce, an extremely mentally ill biological mother (she's not fit to be a parent, so I can't refer to her as that). I never wanted children of my own, but the man I have fallen so deeply in love with has a daughter, and naturally I have grown to love her over the past year. My DD and I have not told the SD yet about us... our situation is a bit exceptional because of her ill mother, so we need to time it out correctly. My SD is now displaying deep wounds from her mother's abuse and needing her father like water. My DD is incredible with me and strongly nurtures our relatonship. However, he is also (fairly and rightfully so) asking for my patience over the next 3-5 months as his daughter has just begun counseling for her symptoms of damage from the divorce. Poor child, to have lost her naive ways at such a young age. The biological mother (we'll call her BM since I'm not familiar with the acronyms on this site yet is fighting my DD for custody and money and calls him thousands of times a day, and he is so stuck in such a tough spot. My SD does not want to be with her mother at all, and I can understand this completely.

I myself am an only child from a loving home with both parents still together and madly in love after 36 years. After having entered this relationship with an open mind and heart with my DD (who also happens to come from a very similar family as mine), I have done my very very best to understand, give them (SD and DD) space and time together, stay out of the way of his authority, and be "friends" with SD. It's become quite different recently, however. SD is showing strong signs of divorced-child syndrome, as any child would, but even worse due to her sick mother. She's becoming quite possessive of her daddy, and I am feeling more and more left out. He and I have been discussing this frequently, and he is extremely supportive of my needs - I'm very lucky in this aspect. I know I'm rambling on, but I feel as though I haven't even scratched the surface yet! I want to know if anyone has any advice on how to survive the next months of therapy and not being "recognized officially" as Papa's new partner. He and I plan to wed and grow this family together once the current circumstances settle. So, we are both very serious about one another and raising our SD together. But I have been put on hold and feel like a silly child for feelng neglected. When the three of us are together, we have to pretend I am only a friend. Not that I would want to be passionate with him in front of my SD, but it's such a dramatic difference having to pretend and not be able to be part of the family, as he and I already feel together with her. But she does not. And she's already getting jealous and marking her territory with him. I know to expect this, but once we do come out to her as a couple for life... is there any sound advice or a general guideline on how best to approach this matter? I know our therapist will offer guidance as well, but I wanted to hear it from other step parents and children of divorce. How to go about it with kid gloves, tenderly but also deserving o respect? We already share finances, work together (that's how we met), have tremendous plans for all of us for the future... I want to behave as appropriately as possible. But he may get 100% custody or the majority (currently it's 50/50, but the BM cancels at the last minute all the time b/c she's a control freak and needs to say she wants her daughter but then doesn't want her when it comes time for her week to be with her daughter), and there are practically no people to help us out with my SD. Money is tight for babysitters, and I'm losing my mind wondering how we'll have any alone time together. He is, too.

There are so many issues, my apologies for rambling on so much. I fear I will drive my DD insane if I don't chill out and let time take its course. I don't want to compromise our situation simply because my "only child" syndrome kicks in and needs alone time with the love of my life. I feel like an outsider, and it hurts so much, I've been bawling my eyes out lately. I can't be selfish, and I don't want to be. But my relationship with my DD is still pretty new (just under a year), and we've never had time for vacation, or even a "honeymoon phase". Again, we're both very much in love, but I don't know when it's right or not right to add in my two cents. I see how difficult it is for him to do things as a single parent. He does need my help sometimes, others he needs to work with her on his own. When is it right to assist (advice, unruly behavior, getting her to sleep in her own bed [she still begs to sleep with Papa], and when should I butt out? And when I need to butt out, how do I not take it personally?

Oh, geeze. I'm going to finish this now. I've just been aching to get this off my chest, and it rolled out so quickly! Anyone who made it through to the end, thanks so much for your "virtual ear", and any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm just lost. I've never done this before, having a child and parenting (I'm 28 y/o, he is 42), never WANTED to do this before until now. But I'm willing to learn and implement. I just need some sound advice.

I don't believe in bad timing. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make this new relationship and future family work.

Thanks to everyone.

VoiceGirl

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NotActuallyAMum · 22/08/2006 08:35

Hello voicegirl and a big welcome to mumsnet

Firstly, I should point out that your man is your DP (Dear Partner) not your DD - not the end of the world I know but it'd get confusing if I didn't tell you DD by the way is 'dear daughter', in other words your child which of course you don't have yet

It's very hard to know what to say to a new 'stepmum'. People often say to me "well you knew what you were taking on!" Erm, no I didn't! How on earth can you when you don't have children of your own??

You are not a silly child for feeling neglected. Most, if not all, of us feel that at times. You do learn to live with it

In your situation, if I were you I would take things very slowly. Not just for your dsd but for yourself too. It will be very hard for all of you, but please take all the help you can. Your therapist will, as you said, offer lots of guidance, and do keep posting on here, we're a nice lot and you'll get lots of support and advice

Is BM really mentally ill? I assume your DP has 'set the ball rolling' for his dd to live with him, or have I read that wrong?

VoiceGirl · 22/08/2006 14:15

Thanks for your warm welcome, NAAM! And for your clafirication on these abbreviations It can get cloudy, there are so many!

Yes, the BM is really mentally ill. She's on multiple (17) different types of mental medications each day. She's been in therapy for ages. She has extreme personality disorders, and it really is hurting this precious little girl. And yes, my DP is doing what he can to get the process in motion for 100% custody, but it doesn't look good right now. BM is a divorce attorney and quite manipulative. The woman has the brain smarts, but she's so ill, she doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong. She's miserable, suicidal, and tells her daughter she wants to kill herself. As a result, my SD has begun to repeat things she hears her mommy say - she doesn't want to live either. It's so devastating, it brings tears to my eyes. Therefore, the divorce is not final because the BM wants a blood bath, and my DP wants to protect his daughter from being dragged through the courts for her entire youth. We're counting on this new therapist to see the light (my DP's family is going to testify about the abuse) and assist in professional testimony and recommendation that my DP get full custody. I don't even feel it's right for visitation, but we truly fear what she might do if someone takes her "right" to control her daughter away.

Regardless of this cruel and exceptional mess, I do and will always respect their mother/daughter connection. If the BM could only see what she was doing to her daughter - it's really sick. And the DP and I are both at a loss as to how to handle this efficiently, before it does too much damage, because we have no money to afford attorneys every moment! BM makes much more money than my DP right now (we're building a start-up, and it takes time!), and she is demanding money from him. She has shopping and medication addictions. She is angry and all over the place. She will demand her daughter every other week but then will cancel and say she's working too hard and doesn't want to see her. She has done this so many times, I've lost count. We can never make plans, and my SD has no sense of consistency right now, which is tremendously damaging in itself.

This BM needs to be an in-patient at a hospital. We have tried so many things to encourage her to take some time for herself in hopes that she'll see how much she likes not having any responsibility, but she's also smart. She knows if my DP will have his daughter the majority of the time, this will reflect poorly for her in court and will also get her less money in the settlement. She constantly hangs carrots of abuse and threats in my DP's face, and all of us are miserable for it - most importantly, this beautiful 5 year old girl.

This is the exception where it disgusts me that the law, regardless of sickening circumstances, weighs the BM's rights over the well being of the child. Simply because the child comes from her womb does not make this woman a mother. It takes nurture and love and mental health, at the very least! She is single-handedly dragging my DP and his daughter through hell just to prove to the world she can. How does one handle this? It seems impossible, but we're loving my DP's daughter, showing her that the world is kind and good generally, taking her places to play, entertaining her at home, and being patient with her as she tries to adjust to these difficult extremes.

My DP also struggles with disciplining his daughter because he feels he wants to show her love in his world since she has none with her mother. We have discussed endlessly that this could severely compromise her in the future if he is not loving but firm with her now. He is quite loving, but I believe he lets her get away with too much, even for this delicate situation! She goes to bed at 11:30 at night sometimes. She refused to go to sleep unless her Papa goes to sleep, and she still sometimes sleeps in bed with him, although we finally got her to sleep in her own bed the majority of time earlier this year. She interrupts him during his adult conversations with others, and he will not tell her to wait her turn. He simply disregards his current conversations and attends to her immediately. She also is all over the place with behavior (I completely understand this, btw), and when I bring some things to his attention (gently), he agress and says he may not have even noticed. But he's so exhausted after all of this, and I am not yet in the position with him to assist. It's much easier when we all are together. When I can, I help them both get ready for school in the morning. She's in summer camp school right now (Pre-K), but she never gets in to school on time with her Papa because he lets her take so long to get ready in the mornings! So, I get her dressed, fed, teeth brushed, etc. while he gets ready, and we take her to school, but it's still late. I ca't be a disciplinarian right now since officially I'm still just a "friend" of theirs. At night, I read her bed times stories to try to get her to bed, but once I tell her I need to leave to go home, she starts crying, begging me to stay over or to sleep in her Papa's bed.

He and I have never held hands or kissed or done anything to remotely expose her to our relationship yet. It's not the right time. I have never stayed the night or spent too much time with them when he has her. I give them their space and always meet with them upon invitation. In the mean time, my DP is wonderful in making sure she respects my friendship with them, he involves me in their decision making with plans and going places, etc. We're both doing our very best to set this up so that hopefully the transition can be easier down the road once he and I tell her we are together.

She's truly a delicious girl. However, she is already showing strong signs of damage herself, and it kills me and my DP. And the rest of our families. My DP and I have been sacrificing endlessly in our young relationship to tend to these matters kindly and patiently. He and I have our own therapist we go to, and now he and his daughter have a therapist for her. In that situation, she just started seeing this therapist, and he has been going with her (the BM refuses to go because she says it gets in the way of her work), but the therapist will soon begin to see each parent alone and family members and other adults who spend solid time with her. We're basically putting all of our eggs into that baskett in hopes that this therapist will recognize quickly the BM's illnesses and will put a stop to it.

Wow, another long one! This has just been on my mind constantly, and this forum is such a great way to get it out there and see it from another's perspective! Do you recommend any books for step moms or for women just entering these situations, preparing for what is to come? I've read many posts of women who wished they had thought twice before entering a 'stepmom' situation. For me, that is not an option. I adore my DP, he is the love of my life, and if that means going through these issues for the rest of my life, then I'll do it with a feverish commitment. Of course, there are times when I find myself "wishing" things were different, searching desperately for ways to bring closure to this situation for all of us. But this is really out of my hands, and even when my DP and I marry, and the three of us move in together, it will always be trying. Hopefully, genetically my SD is not inclined to take after her BM. Otherwise, I fear for the teen years. I fear for so much. But the larger, bigger, stronger part of me only wants to see what good could come of this and what we need to do to see positive results come to fruition.

Thanks again for your response, mine is lengthy but filled with good intentions and pure love.

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yeahinaminute · 22/08/2006 14:48

Hi voice girl and welcome
I have googled some US sites/books on step parenting and found this for you :

university of Michigan step parenting site

As we are UK it may be difficult to get hold of some of the books I have found - But try Amazon too.

NAAM is a mine of wise information and I am stepmum to an 18yr old DSS who has lived with us since he was 15 - but I must admit I did not have the experiences you have.

Take it slowly and hopefully the new family therapist will be able to garner enough information to base a professional recommendation in favour of your DP

Keep your chin up it'll all turn out right in the end - xx

VoiceGirl · 23/08/2006 05:48

Thanks so much! Your warm welcomes and open responses really unhook the nerves. Thanks a bunch for your guidance and kind words. I really hope we can all manage this mess together, but regardless my DP and I love one another so dearly and of course his daughter... with that, I really believe we can make anything happen.

I'm always open to more posts about this from anyone who has advice, experience, comments, etc.

Ciao,

VG

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NotActuallyAMum · 23/08/2006 10:59

Really glad you're feeling positive voicegirl

Please do take things slowly though, and do keep posting here if it helps

NotActuallyAMum · 23/08/2006 11:01

Forgot to say thank you to yeahinaminute for saying I was a mine of wise information

Don't know about that, but it was sooooo nice to get a compliment

yeahinaminute · 23/08/2006 13:16

No problem NAAM - you've had a tough time and sometimes it's nice to get a virtual pat on the back !!!
Off on hols now - speak when I get back !

akycakey · 23/08/2006 21:44

Hello everyone. i am new to mumsnet as well and wish i've found it earlier. My DSS is now 18 and i could have done with some support in the last few years....

Voice Girl, i understand your difficulty. My SS(step son?) was abused by his mother and we had a very hard time with his behaviour as well as trying to help him.

I have moaned over and over again that i have no idea how to be a mum to a teenager and am way to young to deal with a one. (he's lived with us for 6 years)

BUT, amazingly enough, he calls me mum and told me just 2 days ago that i am his mother because i've cared for him and loved him when he was not loveable and even though he visits her, he will only visit her as a friend.

There is hope at the end of the tunnel.

VoiceGirl · 25/08/2006 03:16

Thanks SOOOOOOOO much for your encouraging thoughts and personal stories. Aky - I really appreciatte you sharing your light with me, a similar story that has turned out well. Even if my SD does not ever call me mom (or mum for that matter ;), I would just love for all of us to live in harmony together the best way possible. As everyone seems to agree on this forum, each person's/family's story is different, and there are no cut-out methods of success. I am going into this with an open mind and am driven and motivated by the amazing love I feel for my DP. That's all that counts as far as I'm concerned, as long as it works mutually between the two of us. And the help of the therapists in our lives will assist in guidance and a set of values and boundaries to follow.

Thanks again to each of you! Looking foward to sharing all of our stories as we move along in our funny little worlds...

Best!

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