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DH's ex invading our space and ruining social events - WWYD? Help please!

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BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 07:44

DH and his ex have a son, they have been split for about 6yrs. Ex is also re-married. DH has son every weekend and half of school hols and normally does all pick ups and drop offs. Timings/days have been flexible though depending on what events are happening in either family (weddings/birthdays etc) so DSS may spend more/less/different time(s) with us if something special is happening and sometimes his mum will come and pick him up if she's changed things making it difficult for us to drop him off at a different time. This started off ok but we've run into problems over the last few years.

Basically his mum keeps "invading" and damaging our special times, and it's really bothering me. So far there's been:
DH's sister's wedding - ex was actually invited but declined. We had DSS with us, she picked him up, he was knackered but she decided to stay for 2 hours carrying round a sobbing DSS who just wanted to go home.
My best friend's wedding - she picked DSS up, after the last time we did the handover outside but she decided to burst into the evening reception sobbing hysterically because one of her ex-friends was also there.
Our wedding - she refused to set a time to pick up DSS, instead insisting that we kept in mobile contact all day and rang her to collect him. Then proceeded to tell DH off for an hour outside while everyone was inside wondering where he was.
Birth of my DD - came to hospital with DSS but rather than leaving him with dh's family and waiting outside, decided to come into my cubicle with DSS so my family couldn't get in as we weren't allowed any more people there.
My 30th - by now we were getting wise to her creating scenes when she picked DSS up so we asked if he could go home later instead of being picked up by exW - she said no. Turned up and sat right in the middle of my family and sat there ridiculing all of my choices, how I dressed DD, what I fed her etc. Told me I was a control freak because I fed DD some veg Hmm

We have got DD's 1st birthday coming up and are having a small family gathering. DSS' drop off time is in the morning meaning he'd miss the party so we've asked if we can drop him off later and told ex when it finishes. She's said she wants him back by a time which falls right in the middle of the party meaning my DH would miss most of it. She has offered to come and pick him up but I really don't want her to do this given her past form - but I also don't want DSS to miss out because of his mum's awful behaviour.

These are the only pick-ups she's done since her and dh split but they always seem to be dramatic - she seems to put us into a position where we have to let her pick him up by not allowing us to change our timings with DSS, this forcing dh to either leave the event halfway through or stick to normal timings but rely on ex to pick up.

She still sees dh's family and their mutual friends so it's not like when she comes to these events it's unpleasant/awkward in that sense. I can't think of any reason for it apart from getting attention or just causing trouble. Worst thing is she comes across as a nice person in general and always apologises which dh always falls for (massive guilt issues) so he always lets her back into a situation where she can (and will) do it again. Apart from excluding DSS as well (which I don't want to do), I don't know how to keep her away - what should I do?

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BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 10:47

Thanks all, your advice is much welcomed. I kind of feel stuck between a rock and a hard place to be honest. I can totally see your point of view about ex only having alternate Sundays with DSS and totally agree with you, we used to do fri night - sat morning one week and then fri evening - sun evening the next but then DSS' exW asked to change it to the current arrangement when she met her husband (he works long hours mon-fri as well) and dh instantly bit her hand off as he wanted more time with DSS but didn't think of the consequences. When this change was made we raise the point of "what if ex has something happening at the weekend where she wants DSS with her" and we all agreed to be flexible on both sides as it'd probably average out as time goes on, which it generally does.

My other issue is that I'd happily do the party on the Saturday but loads of my family have their own business which is busiest on a Saturday so we always arrange family stuff for a Sunday. A lot of Dh's family are also involved in a serious (semi-pro level) sport which happens on Saturdays too so that normally works well. So the only person whose times didn't fit in (by 2 hours) was DSS but theoretically DSS was the person whose times should have been the most flexible...

We have noticed she's got more and more funny recently since we had dd, she kept asking for extra money for DSS when she was getting married (dh suspected she was spending maintenance money on her big wedding) but instead of giving money we asked what it was needed for and bought that - she wasn't happy and kept saying "oh but I bought DSS his school uniform last week, that was £400 so I need half of that"...firstly that wasn't the arrangement and secondly £400 for school uniform...no way! No receipts etc, normal comprehensive primary school with polo shirts, sweatshirts etc. Dh used to just hand over extra money years ago but since he's started to get a bit more shrewd and making sure it's going on what DSS needs rather than into the wedding pot, she's got more grumpy with us :(

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Kaluki · 22/02/2014 10:48

Or try a different tactic. Roll your eyes and let her get on with it.
If you ignore her and don't let her affect you then she might get bored and move on. If she's doing it for a reaction she will soon stop if she doesn't get one! Although obviously if she is rude or nasty then that's a different matter!
Just a thought!!!

BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 10:49

Basically the link to dd is that we have had to tighten out belts too since having her so can't afford for DSS' money to go on anything apart from him.

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JumpingJackSprat · 22/02/2014 10:53

Can't you move the party to the weekend before or the weekend after so that you have dss til Sunday evening anyway?

BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 10:56

No jumping, we did think of that. Weekend before is exW's husband's birthday and week after is her mum's birthday so both weeks we don't have DSS from Saturday morning onwards due to him going to Saturday parties with exW's family. Hence the (probably stupid) assumption that a couple of hours next week in return for losing 2 halves of Saturdays and 2 Sundays would be ok...:(

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JohnnyUtah · 22/02/2014 10:59

But you can still sidestep the issue by moving the party earlier in the day? I know a morning party is a.bit odd. But you can do coffee and bacon rolls and your baby doesn't know any different.

BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 11:07

Well we could but not everyone could make that time so we are having most people coming in the morning but some couldn't make it so we changed it into an "open day" sort of thing where anyone can come whenever they want and it spreads things out and makes it easier to fit everyone in! It's turned into one of those things where so many people wanted to come and celebrate with dd that we'd have ended up with way too many people here and it would have been uncomfortable.

Obviously the biggest problem with doing that was that in order to get DSS back at his normal time meant that dh would have to abandon the last 2 hours, which incidentally is when most of our families have said they can come - it's worked out that dd's friends are coming in the morning with both families in the afternoon. We've tried to be as flexible as possible to let all of dd's favourite people be there thinking that the flexibility we'd agreed to and have shown this week and in a fortnight's time would be reciprocated but it's come back to bite us in the bum...we're going to end up with either dh missing both our families for the majority of the time they're here or exW hijacking the "family" part of the party and probably causing a scene...again.

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ExcuseTypos · 22/02/2014 11:09

What time will dSS have to leave on the Sunday?

ExcuseTypos · 22/02/2014 11:10

What would happen if your DH took him back an hour late?

BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 11:13

Leaving ours at 4pm instead of 2- 2:30ish.

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BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 11:15

Excuse normally nothing, if there have been issues with traffic etc we have called to say so and all is ok. It's only when we have big things going on as a family which include DSS that things get so inflexible all of a sudden.

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BinkieWoo · 22/02/2014 11:16

But I imagine in this case if we'd already asked and she'd said no then she'd be on the phone...to us, to dh's family, to anyone who's likely to pick up and pass it to us so that she can disrupt the party and tell us off. That's what I'd guess anyway...

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purpleroses · 22/02/2014 11:17

I think if you really don't want her to turn up at the party then you need to find a way to get DSS back to her at a time that works for you and her - maybe offer a bit of a compromise but it may mean someone having to miss some of the party. Otherwise she's presumably agreed to a two hour drive so that your DH doesn't have to miss any of the party. She's expecting to be asked in, your DH is OK about that... Does he feel the same as you about her disrupting things? It sounds as if he's not really conveyed it to her if he does.

ExcuseTypos · 22/02/2014 11:24

I'd be inclined to let her come and pick him up if everyone knows what she's really like.

I lived with my dad and sm, my mum left when I was 3, I had very little to do with her but she still expected to be included in all family stuff. Births, marriages, christenings etc. my dad and sm were saints in my eyes because they just let her get on with it. Everyone knew what she was like and just put up with her with gritted teeth.

WeekendsAreHappyDays · 24/02/2014 01:07

Ive just read all off this - just get someone else to take him home. Hire a taxi.

This is a big drama over nothing.

TwoAndTwoEqualsChaos · 25/02/2014 23:44

What would happen if you refused to change the arrangements for the w/es she wants him for extra time for her parties? Or "threaten" (wrong word but tired) to, for the one following DD's party, if she is difficult over timings?

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