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Would you know what to do in a cardiac emergency? Ask our expert

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EllieSmumsnet · 13/03/2026 10:45

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Would you know what to do in a cardiac emergency? Ask our expert
GarethCole · 21/04/2026 11:50

purplecomet · 24/03/2026 22:22

A family member had a previous cardiac arrest and now has an ICD. If another cardiac arrest occurs the ICD should take over but should we attempt CPR or leave the ICD to deliver shocks? Of course we'd call 999.

The ICD is there to administer a shock, or shocks, if your family member is unfortunate enough to have another episode. ICDs are generally very reliable and very effective and they are designed to fire whist the patient is still conscious. If however the ICD doesn't fire, or the shock doesn't maintain consciousness, the yes, you should definitely attempt CPR and find a defibrillator in exactly the same way that you would for a patient who doesn't have an ICD.

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GarethCole · 21/04/2026 11:53

Rummikub · 25/03/2026 22:43

Can you improve heart health? After a cardiac incident?

The short answer to your question is yes, you can, but it takes time and effort. Medication to restore heart function after a cardiac event is significantly approved from even a decade ago, but it can only do so much. The rest is down to lifestyle choices and commitment, however there is no reason why a patient cant become as healthy, or even more healthy, than they were prior to the event.

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GarethCole · 21/04/2026 11:53

sashh · 31/03/2026 11:24

On the heart attack vs cardiac arrest (and it drives me mad when things are reported as one and not the other).

Think of your circulation like your central heating system. The main purpose of your heart is to work like the pump in the boiler. Get the blood around your system.

When you get a blockage in the pipes it can be a problem, a heart attack (blockage basically in the pipes near the pump) or if the blockage is elsewhere it can be a stroke or thrombosis. If it is very near the pump this is a heart attack.

The other part of the heart / boiler is the electrical timing. In your heart this is an electrical system that initiates every bet of your heart (technically it isn't but we are not going in to that much detail). A piece of the heart muscle is dyeing.

When this stops working it is a cardiac arrest.

An ECG shows this activity from different directions so it shows a cardiac arrest but it can show lots of other things, eg bundle branch blocks, the electrical activity can indicate what is going on in the pump eg if you are having a heart attack the electrical information will show, "ST elevation" in the ECG.

A pacemaker can take over the timing of your heart if your own electrical system isn't working well.

What you have written here is entirely correct and doesn't need any further input from me ! Like you, I do get frustrated when people refer to cardiac arrests as heart attacks, and vice versa, but after more than a decade in this field I do understand it to a certain extent. Most people don't know the difference unless they have been directly affected by one or the other (or both) and honestly, why would they. If the media misreport it then my hackles go up !

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GarethCole · 21/04/2026 15:16

pteromum · 17/03/2026 13:23

Good topic to be discussed here.

the most frightening statistic that stuck with me is that women are far less likely to be given CPR a in the street than men, because people are scared of touching a female.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly1wk02ylvo

Sadly you are absolutely correct, in the UK women are roughly 10% less likely to receive bystander CPR than men are. This is often down to fear of being accused of, or prosecuted for, inapproprita touching. Cultural differences also come into play here. One important thing to note is that, whilst the UK does not have a "Good Samaritan" law as such, there hasn't been a single case of someone saving a life, or attempting to save a life, being successfully prosecuted for inappropriate touching, in fact courts tend to take a very dim vew of the accuser, and have even ordered compensation to be paid to the accused. Incidentally, its not just CPR thats the issue here. Even if CPR is performed defibrillator pads are supposed to be attached to bare skin which means removing the bra and many men won't do that if the patient is not known to them. This is another area that needs to be addressed. There is a fantastic charity called Bra Off Defib On (BODO for short) that is doing really well at raising awereness in this area but there is still a lot more to be done.

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AnotherVice · 21/04/2026 17:38

GarethCole · 21/04/2026 11:35

Its important to bear in mind that a heart attack and a cardiac arrest are very different conditions and require different intervention and treatment. In the case of a heart attack your mum would still be conscious and breathing so CPR would not be appropriate. In the case of a cardiac arrest your mum would not be conscious and would have stopped breathing, and at that point CPR would be vital. I understand your concern of her being frail and petite, but to be brutally honest if you were to break a rib or two (which is highly likely) that's still infinitely preferable to the inevitable alternative. A broken rib will heal itself, a stopped heart won't. As for something to have in the home first aid wise, a home defibrillator, such as Heart Hero, would be a good option. In cardiac arrest scenarios, seconds, not minutes, matter.

I can’t believe you’re trying to flog a home defib for hundreds of pounds to someone to use on their elderly frail mother. If you were any kind of ‘expert’ you’d know the difference between a ‘cardiac arrest’ and a natural death. Shameful to prey on someone’s anxieties like this and deprive their loved one of a dignified death.

sashh · 22/04/2026 05:16

GarethCole · 21/04/2026 11:53

What you have written here is entirely correct and doesn't need any further input from me ! Like you, I do get frustrated when people refer to cardiac arrests as heart attacks, and vice versa, but after more than a decade in this field I do understand it to a certain extent. Most people don't know the difference unless they have been directly affected by one or the other (or both) and honestly, why would they. If the media misreport it then my hackles go up !

Thank you for the kind words. I've been out of cardiology for about 25-30 years.

Confession time, I did once defib someone who was still conscious. He was in VF and the printout of the ECG showed I'd defibbed less then 30 seconds after he started fibrilating.

A fairly large dose of midazolam was administered.

Periperi2025 · 22/04/2026 12:32

sashh · 22/04/2026 05:16

Thank you for the kind words. I've been out of cardiology for about 25-30 years.

Confession time, I did once defib someone who was still conscious. He was in VF and the printout of the ECG showed I'd defibbed less then 30 seconds after he started fibrilating.

A fairly large dose of midazolam was administered.

I've seen it once and done it once. Not fully conscious but enough for them to yelp. One was pre hospital (shocked twice), one just after arrival. Both had great outcomes.

What is worth noting in this thread was that with the pre hospital arrest, was that the reason he was still in CPR induced consciousness when we got to him was due to the high quality chest compressions his niece was doing. Good bystander CPR really does make a difference! He was discharged from hospital 5 days later.

Sadworld23 · 26/04/2026 18:26

A relative of mine, in his late 50s had a heart attack on the toilet, probably around 7am

No one found him til about 11 even though there were people at home.
I assume it was quick and helpful wasn't lain there dying, but what should you do if if you feel a bit off.

He was fit and well for his age, probably overtly better than average, but obvs had under lying, unknown heart condition..

Schmellywelly · 26/04/2026 18:43

How can more information be advertised and aimed at the fact women present very differently from the traditional way that is depicted in the media and pretty much everywhere. I had a heart attack last year, in my 40s, out of the blue. I had no idea i was having a heart attack when i woke up that morning and carried on my day, annoyed by intermittant right sided chest pain and a pain in my right wrist/arm. I didnt seek help for almost 20 hours because there was no way i thought i was having a heart attack as 1. I was in my 40s and 2. the pain was on the right side. Apart from the pain, i was fine and talking normally ect Even in A&E when my tropnin level reached over 4000, they still didnt beleive i was having a heart attack and it took a lot of pursading and a tenacious female registrar who wouldnt let it drop for me to be transfered to a local heart hospital to be given an angiogram and subsequent angioplasty. It was a high risk Atypical NSTEMI with full blockage and all everyone kept saying was "you dont look like yours having a heart attack, even though your bloods say you are"
If i knew women presented differently i would have absolutely sought help sooner. I assumed i would know if i was having a heart attack, i, 100%, did not! I didnt even call 999, i called 111 because i was annoyed that i couldnt sleep at 2am because of the weird pain in my chest and i wanted to speak to a nurse for advice. The first sign i had was my bra felt like it had shrunk and was tight when i put it on at 7am the morning before. I tell as many people i meet that i can to be aware that woman present differently to men, and not one has said they knew that already. We desperately need to see this more in the media.

You12envyme · 26/04/2026 21:15

I just want to show my support. On March 26, 2026 I suffered a cardiac arrest. Luckily I was with someone who called emergency services when I started exhibiting symptoms. It was such a scary event for me. I was able to saved and was placed in medically induced coma for 9 days. When I woke I was told what happened to me. I can't get anyone to tell me how long I was clinically on the "other side". It wasn't included in any of my paperwork or files. This event changed my outlook on life. I don't know why, but I looked up the statistics for survival rates. It was so sad. I started questioning why I survived when others I deemed "more important" than me didn't? I started questioning my purpose. Survivor’s guilt and ptsd are some lingering issues for me. I have panic attacks whenever I pass where it happened, I'm triggered by hearing "Flat lines" on television shows or movies. And every year around my anniversary of the event my body is in fight or flight mode. And memory loss and my mind drawing blanks on saying simple things. Like I'll look at a dog, then suddenly forget the word dog. I have to give clues like "4 legged creature that barks". But... there are a lot of positives. I get to be here longer. Also, as I'm clinically obese, I absolutely hated pictures. I thought they were embarrassing. My adult children decided to send me their favorite pictures of me and I was so surprised. They didn't care about my size, only that I was their mom and they had so many memories that included them. It was then I decided that I will take more pics and smile all the smiles that they had to secretly capture when they took pics without me knowing. I get more time with my husband. We had never married and didn't think it mattered. We had a big wedding. Our kids finally stopped bugging us about it. We've been together 30 years, married for 3. I'm no longer scared to try new things. I am fully embracing my new future. Wishing anyone going through this or have family who went through this, lots of love. 💜

youneverwalkedinmyshoes · 27/04/2026 11:29

soddingspiderseason · 19/03/2026 13:41

Absolutely. I’ve had 2 heart attacks caused by vasospasm and A&E do struggle as most research is based on male bodies. Vasospasm is much more common for women but its overlooked and treated as a “lesser” type of heart attack. The medication required is different also.

I am glad you said this because I recently had a heart attack and none of the doctors I've seen explained that is more common in women to have a vasospasm. Also, I don't believe they treated my differently than a man, medication wise.

Bunnyfuller1 · 28/04/2026 21:48

Posters, please please read the full thread - people are still confusing heart attack with cardiac arrest. Whilst a heart attack can lead to cardiac arrest (which is NOT flatline, but a chaotic rhythm which does not pump blood around the body - ventricular fibrillation - which needs a DEfibrillator to shock the heart still and hopefully recover into normal sinus) a heart attack presents in many, many ways - I ignored Dr Google for 4 days when it kept saying ‘Cardiac!!!’ As all I had was a weird achy feeling where neck glands are.

Periperi2025 · 29/04/2026 09:45

Bunnyfuller1 · 28/04/2026 21:48

Posters, please please read the full thread - people are still confusing heart attack with cardiac arrest. Whilst a heart attack can lead to cardiac arrest (which is NOT flatline, but a chaotic rhythm which does not pump blood around the body - ventricular fibrillation - which needs a DEfibrillator to shock the heart still and hopefully recover into normal sinus) a heart attack presents in many, many ways - I ignored Dr Google for 4 days when it kept saying ‘Cardiac!!!’ As all I had was a weird achy feeling where neck glands are.

Being pedantic, but since your post is about being factually correct.

Heart attacks (myocardial infarctions) can send the heart into a whole range of arrhythmias (faulty heart rhythms - some fatal, some not), not just ventricular fibrillation, this depends on the area of the heart wall damaged by the heart attack and the corresponding part of the hearts conduction system (electric circuitary) that becomes affected.

So it is possible for the first arrest rhythm from a heart attack to be asystole (flat line) in some heart attacks that result in cardiac arrests (septal MI causing AV block). This is a non shockable rhythm.

Or for a heart attack to result in a PEA (pulseless electrical activity) arrest due to extensive damage to the left ventricular (the largest thickest part of the heart wall and the area responsible for pumping blood all around the body) resulting in heart failure and the accumulation of fluid in the lungs and peripheries, so whilst the heart attack causes the damage it doesn't actually stop firing out beats. This is a non shockable rhythm.

It is also possible to have cardiac arrests, that are cardiac in origin (caused by a primary problem in the heart) without having a heart attack before hand.

For example, sudden adult death syndrome arrhythmias. For example long qt syndrome - Where a delay in the conduction system (electric circuitary) makes the heart vulnerable to ventricular tachycardia and subsequently ventricular fibrillation when exposed to a shock (sudden cold water immersion, orgasm, boo shock) at just the wrong moment.

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