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Twenty year old dd (ADHD, Dyslexia, Anxiety and probably ASD) not speaking to me for a week

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LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:38

This is really rather long, apologies - but I've seen posters criticised for drip feeding.

Dd can behave pretty awfully when she is overwhelmed - usually rude and shouty and I bear the brunt of it, she is unreasonable and she levels excoriating criticism at me. I have previously managed it by either shutting down and not really listening to the personal attacks (for self protection) whilst being sympathetic and asking how I can help, or by acquiescing to everything she says - e.g. admitting I am in the wrong when I am not - in the hope of everything calming down. Dh doesn't experience this much as he is rarely home and ds stays in his room out of her way. Just recently I have been trying to set boundaries and calmly call her out on some of the things she says

I have read and researched ADHD and autism so I do understand chronic overwhelm and her day to day struggles but I struggle to unpick what is attributable to her neurodiversity and what isn't. I have googled emotional abuse because her behaviour can certainly feel like that. She has had various therapists and counsellors (including two clinical psychologists and an ADHD coach) but generally tires of them and says they are not helpful or 'rubbish' after a brief honey moon period

It started last Thursday evening. I gave each dog their dinner but the partially sighted one started eating from one of the other's bowl. I gently nudged her with my socked food and directed her to her food - she happily resumed eating her (special diet) food. My dd - who was already quite twitchy and grumpy, yelled at me furiously "Don't kick 'Fido' - you've scared her". Believe me - it was not remotely a kick. I merely used my sock foot rather than my hand to redirect her (I can't squat down due to torn meniscus). I defended myself - calmly- and told her not to speak to me like that and that I hadn't kicked the dog. She stormed off to her room crying - she struggles with emotional dysregulation.

Next day she is off work and my friend phones to come over for a coffee. Dd overhears and says "She is not coming into my house! I hate her. Take her into the summer house in the garden" - its raining and the suggestion isn't reasonable on a cold March day, so I tell dd that my friend and I will sit in my study so that she can avoid her. She doesn't let up with her demand or ranting about my friend, but I hold my ground explaining that my study is a compromise, but this culiminates in her having a full on crying, screaming meltdown - I eventually manage to calm her down.

Saturday morning, Dh takes her into town for a new iphone as her's is broken. I send this text: "Hi, please don't keep dad too long - he needs to walk the dogs today x" and she replies "It will take however long it takes". I decide not to bite, but that response was abrupt and uncalled for. When she comes home I ask her if she has a protective case for the phone (because that's how the other one got broken) and when she replies not yet I looked concerned. This causes her to yell and swear at me and storm off in tears. Sensing a third day of angst I can't handle it anymore and I drive off somewhere to cool off not taking my phone with me. Gone for about half an hour and left her with her dad and brother. In my absence she has another meltdown and apparently convinces herself that I have done something to myself (which never remotely crossed my mind)

She hasn't spoken to me since - what to do? Helpful observations? I have made several overtures which have been ignored.

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LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:43

I think I am going to be brave and post this elsewhere for traffic (although I might get some not very 'neurodiverse friendly' responses)

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Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:43

She is not coming into my house! I hate her. Take her into the summer house in the garden" - its raining and the suggestion isn't reasonable on a cold March day, so I tell dd that my friend and I will sit in my study so that she can avoid her.

come again?

Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:44

She sounds deeply unpleasant OP

but you and your husband sound rather spineless in the face of her demands and rudeness

Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:44

My son had adhd and this behaviour is unrecognisable

Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:45

What does she do for work?

friends? Hobbies?

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:45

Are you familiar with neurodiversity Villssev?

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Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:46

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:43

I think I am going to be brave and post this elsewhere for traffic (although I might get some not very 'neurodiverse friendly' responses)

This behaviour isn’t due to ND

Its basic rude and unpleasant human behaviour from an adult

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:46

Ah, I see you are.

Yes my son has ADHD too (he is 19) and nothing like his sister - but then he doesn't have ASD and anxiety too

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Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:46

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:45

Are you familiar with neurodiversity Villssev?

Yes

my son

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:48

She has a handful of close friends nearby. She works in a supermarket after attempting University but leaving (burn out)
Hobbies are creative pursuits and art and flea markets

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LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:50

I don't want to pathologise everything but I have wondered about Borderline personality disorder

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Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:53

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 12:50

I don't want to pathologise everything but I have wondered about Borderline personality disorder

This.

Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:54

But fundamentally

there does reach a point where I think you need to ask yourself whether being spoiled and not very nice also comes in to play.

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 13:00

She hasn't been spoiled - certainly she has been appeased during frightening episodes of melting down and crisis (when it seemed she might hurt herself), but parented ostensibly in the same way as my son

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LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 13:03

She has had periods of cyclical vomiting (leading to hospitalisation), reflux and become painfully thin when in mental health crisis so she deserves a little more understanding than being labelled as unpleasant and rude. I wouldn't want to experience what she experiences

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LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 13:05

Anyway, thank you for your input but I am hopeful for contributions from others too if anyone is reading and lurking?

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Villssev · 31/03/2023 13:09

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 13:00

She hasn't been spoiled - certainly she has been appeased during frightening episodes of melting down and crisis (when it seemed she might hurt herself), but parented ostensibly in the same way as my son

But there was no frightening incident when you had a friend around
she was just incredibly rude
and you accommodated her rudeness by squirrelling your friend away

Villssev · 31/03/2023 13:10

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 13:03

She has had periods of cyclical vomiting (leading to hospitalisation), reflux and become painfully thin when in mental health crisis so she deserves a little more understanding than being labelled as unpleasant and rude. I wouldn't want to experience what she experiences

Well no

but you don’t even allude to this in your Op, from which I was responding to

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 13:20

Tbh Villssev I thought my OP was long enough, and I also assumed some knowledge of how ASD can impact on mental health

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FloatingBean · 31/03/2023 14:14

Is DD receiving any support?

Women are sometimes misdiagnosed with BPD when it is really ASD, so personally in your situation I would be looking at ASD and further support before BPD.

Some of the things you mention could well be related to ASD. That doesn’t excuse the behaviour, but can explain some of it and alters how to deal with the situation. For example, some people with ASD see their home as a safe space and find others coming into it stressful, especially when it isn’t planned in advance. Easy for me to say looking back but it would have probably been better to text DH rather than DD.

This behaviour isn’t due to ND

You can’t possibly say that for certain.

FloatingBean · 31/03/2023 14:16

Villssev · 31/03/2023 12:44

My son had adhd and this behaviour is unrecognisable

Hmm You do know not every ND person presents the same, don’t you?

LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 15:02

She isn't receiving professional support at the moment - she has seen four different people in the past (the last one up until a month ago) but always draws it to a conclusion after a while. She says she prefers to handle her challenges herself

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LimitIsUp · 31/03/2023 15:03

She definitely sees her home as her safe space hence her reaction to my friend visiting

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Villssev · 31/03/2023 16:30

Is she on meds?

FloatingBean · 31/03/2023 19:04

If DD struggles with clinical psychologists would she see an OT &/or SALT? Both can help with emotional regulation and social interaction and communication.

Is she on medication for her ADHD and anxiety?