learning to read with speech delay

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ds1 (4 in august) is starting to want to learn to read - he recognises by sight quite a few words but when we try new words by sounding out the letters he gets quite confused. He can make most letter sounds now individually and knows what sound goes with which letter, but when he tries to blend them i think the result is russian. Has anyone got any eexperiance of this would you think it is better to just sight read or try phonetically.

Learning to sight read common words is important, but so is learning synthetic phonics, since he will get to a point where he does frequently encounter new words and will need some rules.

DS1 started off sight reading when he was 2, but his reading didn't really take off until he did learn phonics, aged 4. Learning phonics actually helped him with his speech in a lot of ways, since there were a lot of sounds he couldn't make sense of and reproduce accurately before then.

He needs to do both.
He will eventually recognise more & more words, but to learn new words he will also have to learn to sound them out phonetically. For a child with speech delay this is just really difficult.
If you don't have the words in your head to start with, learning to read write them is a struggle.
Dd1 - 5 - has been learning to read for a year now and seems to recognise quite a few words but putting sounds together is still hard,even though, like your DS she can make a lot of the indvidual sounds.

SLT has always said is a big jump from making individual sounds to blending them - just takes time

Your ds is very young - great that he wants to learn

What sort of speech delay is he having - is it a pronunciation problem or is it a vocabulary problem?

my 7 year old still gets V and TH mixed up.

I was told orginally for ds it be learning whole words , but know your ds is further ahead with speech sounds , found last year a lot of the nt dc in reception struggled with sounds at first to

agree with bubble, best to do both, as school will focus on phonics, and it's useful to be able to sound out unfamiliar words. It took DS the whole of reception to get the hang of blending, he's come on a lot with his reading in Year 1, I suspect mostly sight word recognition rather than blending. Eventually you may find that having the constant visuals for words should help with learning new vocab.

If you do want to motor on through summer with sight words, there are a number of words that you learn as sight words anyway though, words like "you", "who" etc. if you go somewhere like Wilkinsons or Tescos they usually have cheap sets of magnets of key words for reception/early years. Or the good old Ladybird Peter and Jane books focus on sight words.

Dd2 is at the same stage, she is reading but from memory rather than using phonics, she can recognize up to 10 letter words (will type them out on the pc) but when she trys to spell out a word she doesn't know she has no idea of the linking sounds to letters.

I am extremely jealous. DS is 5.5 is doesn't recognize any letters, he recognizes his name and that about it.
So well done to your ds

mojo ds is the same to knows about 9 or 10 letters but cant say only sign

yep think will conentrate on sight words - its easier!!!
His problem is making the speech sounds.
He just doesnt seem to get how they blend together but will phonetically spell his name out and understands that certain letters have certain sounds,
we just had a bedtime story and i showed him the word bed he said the letters b e d(which sounds like a g when he says it) then he tried to guess the word from the pictures its only when i practically say the word he gets it.
We had a shopping delivery from asda and he spelt out the letters on the van and then announced it was Teski (his version of tesco)

Just getting them talking is hard enough - I use speechtails.com to increase vocab and help with sppech issues. They also have a great popcorn word game at the teacher stores that I play with my kids. Both have been really helpful but we love the speechtails site. Good Luck!

justa - many "moons" ago I had a similar discussion on here with Moondog, an experienced SALT, and she said similar to the senco, about literacy reinforcing language.

Mojolost - my DS was the same at 5.5. Despaired that he would ever recognise more than 3 or 4 letters. He had no interest. Suddenly at 6.3 he took off and is recognising whole words. Its a great feeling. For both of us.

we have some phonics books so have been looking at them and reading the ones with the sounds he is working on at the moment. He enjoys books and it is a welcome change from the blooming cards!!! think will leave the blending sounds till he starts school in sept and ask how they do it there. dont want to confuse him - poor little sauasage. MIL has been useful for once we have loads of ladybirds books from charity shops so have lots to read over the summer.

Justa - ITA. Even though he can't say them (he's pretty much non-verbal), we know that DS2 knows some letter sounds and we expose him to the names of common objects in writing, for instance, with pictures on pecs style cards (he won't do pecs, but we still use the cards to label things). His teachers are keen on teaching him to read and already he sometimes joins in with the reception class when they're practicing their phonics on the carpet - he enjoys all the actions and actually tries to emulate the sounds.

Sodit - Alphablocks on cbeebies is really good fun and DS1 taught himself to read using a combination of the BBC's Fun with Phonics and Starfall.com (American, but really excellent)

plan is for ds to learn to read using symbols as well as the words as atm he still only has 5 sounds that be a,e,i,o,u.but he does know how to sign another 8 or 9 , when you say g he does try but is from his throat but he will do sign for G same for c its a u sound but he signs c

Total/justa - would early literacy stuff likely help with receptive language do you think?

Were big fans of starfall here as well

ItNeverRains - re:receptive language - probably, as it will provide extra visual clues about environment etc.

That makes sense Total. I really feel I should be doing more with DD (3.10), so I will look into literacy stuff, as she has started showing some interest in written words, although currently I feel like I'm not doing a good enough job helping her with understanding spoken language, nevermind getting into the written word.

My daughter has down's syndrome and has really enjoyed looking at and reading simple books created at www.love2read.co.uk I've just made my daughter one about our family like this one Books based on key words - hope this helps!

Dd2 has been playing 'Alphablocks' games on cbeebies, within a couple of days she was sounding out the letters (phonics). She is doing a lot of 'f f f fish' and 'p p p piano' but it has also improved her reading skills. She also likes spelling with magnettic letters and typing on the PC.

Itneverrainsbut, ds is 10 now and still completely non-verbal but can read. He taught himself when he was about 4, we were really shocked when we realised he was reading things! His teacher didn't believe us at first but she was soon convinced too. very strange when he could hardly understand anything we were saying to him but it goes to show that not being good with spoken language is not necessarily a barrier to learning to understand the written one.