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Little boy in ds's class told me

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 11:11

that ds has been lying on the floor in the cloakroom laughing hysterically over nothing, he has also been doing it when lining up. He also commented to me that ds is 'weird'.

Im guessing ds is doing this because he is overwhelmed/nervous?

School havent mentioned this to me as usual.

Anyone else have experience of this?

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drloves · 26/05/2010 11:29

My dd4 does this. Just laughs at nothing , then gets hysterical laughter after a bit.
Think she just finds her own laugh funny..
The other boy sounds a bit of a bully, tbh id rather have a "weird" child than a horrible one.

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 11:40

Glad ds is not the only one! Does your dd do it at a particular time?

With ds it seems to be when he is nervous or avoidance perhaps. We went to the Dr's the other day and he sat there laughing hysterically over nothing.

The other boy is a 'popular' boy (you are right, he comes across as being a bit spoilt, always has the latest clothes, toys and mum turns a blind eye quite a bit too)

Still this hysterical laughing and laying on the floor, isnt doing ds any favours. I suppose other kids are only 6 too and probably do find it a bit weird!

I felt like telling the other boy, that it wasnt nice to tell tales, but this feed back is the only feed back i get from school.

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StarlightMcKenzie · 26/05/2010 12:25

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 12:34

Star LOL i have done that before! If the school were to communicate with me, i could tell the snotty nose little brat that his face wouldnt crack if he were to smile and laugh a bit!

Im keeping a diary. School obviously just regarded it as ds being 'naughty' as the boy told me the teacher told him off.

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wasuup3000 · 26/05/2010 12:55

LOL-I had another child say to me that my son liked to be first to finish his work on the table and if hes not he gets upset and shouts at everyone... Of course teacher says no problems ect

genieinabottle · 26/05/2010 13:30

Yep, DS does this, he laughs in a 'maniac' sort of way, for no apparent reason sometimes.
We do find him so funny though

ouryve · 26/05/2010 13:43

DS2 gets the giggles like that. He had his while nursery class giggling along with him, a few weeks ago

TheArsenicCupCake · 26/05/2010 13:44

Don't you just love it when children have got the gist of rules/ social rules and then go about like little informers.
I probably would have said " oh you must have missed something really funny, I'm glad ds is so happy"

ds2 does big emotions.. If he yells he yells loudly, if he laughs it is a mighty over extended laugh. .. I think that's the nice bit we get to go along with the hard work stuff.

I would however pop into school and point out that your ds isn't being naughty but it's one of his quirks and how would they suggest the scho can help him fit in a bit more as the other children are seeing the behaviour as " weird" and you would like to avoid the potential for any teasing or bullying in the future.

I would also ask for a home/ school book to help highlight any other potential issues so they can be highlighted before it becomes a social problem for ds.

Hth

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 17:16

Wassup, same here, school report no problems!

Genie, Ds has his moments and does have a sense of humour (not sure if he actually knows he is being funny or not though!)

Ourye, this boy told me no one else was laughing, just ds (he reported it me, as if he was disgusted by it, as if ds was stupid

TheArsenic, school are still denying that ds has any difficulties, they think he is NOT autistic. When i talk to his class teacher she just stares at me blankly and thinks im being over anxious.

It has already become a social problem for ds, they do tease and bully him.

Perhaps the boy who reported it to me, should take over as teacher at least he can identify inappropriate behaviour and speak to parents!

I have put it writing to the school.

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StarlightMcKenzie · 26/05/2010 17:21

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 17:41

Star, not literally, but as good as! I have to rely on children in the school to report incidents to me and not for the first time (i did write that)

Im getting so frustrated with school, ive tried appearing to be the reasonable one all the time. I want to turn up at the meeting next week and scream ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND

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TheArsenicCupCake · 26/05/2010 17:55

Claw.. Does ds have a dx yet.. Or in the process? If he has I would make an appointment with the senco, or your sen parent govenor ( if you have one). As the school seem to be failing not only in communication, but with his needs.

If he's not dx yet or in the process get your gp to refer you to a pead or camhs.

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 18:05

Thearsenic, he has been seeing a Paed since he was 2 year old. He has a whole host of professionals including SALT, OT, CAMHS, ASD assessment team etc, etc.

Have had a verbal dx of autism, due to get his 'official' on paper dx, signed and sealed on 23rd June.

Ds's school are really crap is the short version. I have contacted Board of Governors, LA and ive applied for SA, which was refused because school report no difficulties etc, etc.

SENCO is currently 'sulking' she refuses to communicate with me in any way, shape or form. I phone her she wont return my calls, i email her, she responds with do not email me arrange a meeting, i write to her, she ignores. I try to arrange a meeting, she is only prepared to meet with me once a term.

I was thinking of brick through her office window, with a note attached

Ds's name is down at another school, i need a statement for him to reach the top of the list.

Was just wondering if the hysterical laughter at nothing was another ASD 'trait' ifswim.

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silverfrog · 26/05/2010 18:09

laughing at nothing is a common trait, I believe, claw.

I have read talk of it on gf forums (prob the last thing you want to hear, given you will have such difficulty implementing it with your ds)

dd1 used to do it sometimes, often at nighttime. just lots and lots of giggling at nothing at all.

she doesn't really do it now (gf for 3 years, coming up)

TheArsenicCupCake · 26/05/2010 18:49

Senco and the school sound like a nightmare!

And yay for getting a paper dx on 23rd June!

Maybe apply for a statement ( if you haven't already ) yourself. So you can get the school you want.

But with regard to the laughing all I can say is yes ds2 does this!

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 20:25

Silver, sorry probably a dumb question, what is gf?

Thanks TheArsenic, i have applied for Statutory Assessment and it was refused because school are stating 'no difficulties' and everything is fine etc! have tribunal on 14th November, which is a very long time to wait for school to put appropriate help in place for ds, until then i shall continue to hit my head against a brick wall!

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silverfrog · 26/05/2010 20:26

oh, sorry, claw - gluten free (told you you wouldn't like it!)

TheArsenicCupCake · 26/05/2010 20:40

Oh claw.. That is awful.

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 20:43

Silver, of course its so obvious now you have told me what it means, we were only chatting about it a few days ago!

I have an appointment at the feeding clinic tomorrow and i have just written it on my pad, to remind me to ask them about gf.

Havent tried the bread yet, but will definitely give it a go

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silverfrog · 26/05/2010 20:48

DO mention it to them, but if they are anyhting like the dieticians I have seen with both dds, then they may well pooh-pooh the idea

(I have only ever got as far as "well, if you are sure you have seen a difference, then I can't make you stop"... err, yes, thanks, I have seen a difference, both in the quality of poo output (sorry, TMI [grin}) and also in the fact that dd1 started talking after we took her off gluten. I'd say that was worth continuing for!)

debs40 · 26/05/2010 20:50

Claw.....shall we do a joint.....AAARRRGGHHH!!!

I can't believe our lives are running in parallel again - our report back date after panel is 24th June!

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 20:52

Silver, we always end up talking about poo!

There are usual 4 of the team at the appointment, so one of them might have some knowledge. Of course, you are quite right experts dont always know best in my experience either.

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5inthebed · 26/05/2010 20:52

Ds2 does this, probably once a day. He will even do it in the middle of Tesco . I would put it down as a coping mechanism as he stimms or lies down laughing or making asd noises.

silverfrog · 26/05/2010 20:54

I know claw
little did I realise, all those years ago when I was longing for children that it meant I would spend the rest of my life talking about bodily functions

oh well.

Hopefully you will get somebody clued up. Just wanted you to be aware that it isn't really seen as "mainstream". IT can be accepted that it helps, but not sanctioned (becausethen you might be entitled to gf products on prescription!)

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claw3 · 26/05/2010 20:56

5inthebed, brilliant you have hit the nail on the head, i was thinking more about the laughing, its probably the laying down isnt it, why didnt i think of that!

Im guessing he also falls to the floor on purpose, when he lays down. Sensory input isnt it!!

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