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anyone else got a child whose key strategy around other kids is "If confused, just do what your brother's doing and hope for the best"

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lingle · 21/04/2010 18:24

I wondered if anyone else has a child who has adopted this approach as a survival strategy in the face of incomprehensible language and social rules.

What DS2 does around other children is shadow DS1 (2.8 years older, similar interests) when he wants to join in a game but can't understand what's going on. He literally stands just behind DS1, waits for DS1 to take a turn jumping/running/skidding/saying something silly or whatever the game is and then takes his own turn by copying Ds1 as precisely as he can.

When he was two and three, DS2 used to do this every time he wanted to enter into kids' games - he did it today when he couldn't follow a conversation and it reminded me that this is how he has learnt to be a child. It's a sort of intensive early play therapy, I suppose .

When it comes to non-physical social play without fixed rules though, he is much more at ease with a typical 3 year old than a 4 year old. He and other train-made boys kind of talk across each other about what trains they have like blokes in a pub talking about cars.

I used to think that his adoption of this strategy meant he "didn't have ASD" but I've kind of got beyond the whole is/isn't thing now......

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TotalChaos · 21/04/2010 18:32

apart from the sibling, that is DS's technique too. Amazing how canny kids can be to get around the language deficit.....

AngryWasp · 21/04/2010 18:38

DS (3) seeks out dd (19months going on 19years) in a room full of children as his frame of reference. She is giving him a boost from behind and hopefully will lead him for a bit.

Agree it is an excellent form of therapy.

lingle · 21/04/2010 18:44

how interesting!

DS1 did it too in a way as a pre-schooler. The nursery staff commented that he would seek out the "alpha-male" of the class and try to be like him and be his friend. He did it with two successive boys and had the gross motor/coordination skills to carry it off with a non-sibling.

We used to get strange situations with DS2 even when he was three. Ds1 would be shouting out "ds2! ds2! to show him some new thing, and ds2 would just joyfully repeat "ds2!". He thought that was the game, didn't occur to him it was his own name till about 3.6.

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Marne · 21/04/2010 19:01

Yes, dd2 has just started doing this, she does what ever her sister does which is not always great as her sister is on the spectrum too and she often gets her in trouble.

Pronoia · 21/04/2010 19:03

ds1 copies ds2's imaginative play.

It's nice to see Ds1 having some imaginative play, and I try not to think too hard abut the fact that his 4 year old brother is leading the game,.

anonandlikeit · 21/04/2010 19:37

Yes, yes, yes & when I have discussed this with his psych she looked a tme as if I am mad!
DS2 copies everything ds1 does & syad, literally standing behind him.

He also however expects peoples reaction to be identical & gets upset if people respond or answer him differently to his brother. Even if I am telling ds1 off, ds2 continues to copy & wants the same treatment.

lingle · 21/04/2010 20:30

that's interesting anon - sounds like a very very strong version of what DS2 is doing. What do you think is going on there?

Have you ever managed to capure it on video?

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anonandlikeit · 21/04/2010 20:36

ds2 is also very compliant so I think it is a fear of doing the wrong thing, maybe? So he just follows his big brother who he also idolises.

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