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Any other "rule bound" ASD children?

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asdx2 · 19/04/2010 14:04

Ds 15 always complies with everything I tell him regardless of whether he wants to or not. It makes life very easy for me and is in direct contrast to when he was younger and he was totally self directed with extreme challenging behaviour.
Never spoken to any other parent who experiences the same so are there others out there?

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cyberseraphim · 19/04/2010 14:07

Yes ds1 is very compliant but as he is still young it's still great ! He has no concept of not complying.

aSilverlining · 19/04/2010 14:11

DS is pretty compliant, he is 5 and has HFA.

When I read thread title the first thing that popped into my head was the black and white way DS views rules. This can be handy in some ways, less so in others. For example, the red man means STOP, regardless of if you are stood in the middle of a busy road when it comes on. (He rooted to the spot and I had to pick him up and carry him across). He also thinks the whole world should obey 'the rules' which often leads him to be loudly telling off strangers, adults, children, friends, family etc when they break 'the rules'.

asdx2 · 19/04/2010 14:12

How old is ds? My ds was a nightmare up to about 8 when he finally got a good grasp of speech. It has been downhill all the way from then though as he has got more compliant and withdrawn unfortunately.
Feels very odd to have a teenager with seemingly no free will

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asdx2 · 19/04/2010 14:15

One of ds's rules is that he must do as he is told by parents and teachers and so he sticks to that obsessively I'm afraid.
As well as hundreds of others that he has acquired over the years.

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aSilverlining · 19/04/2010 14:22

I was talking to a friend the other day whose son is in the same class as my DS. Her son is completely inquisitive and questions everything endlessly (it came up in conversation as he had observed that at school my DS doesn't use the main toilet, wears pull ups, and needs help to go to toilet). I was shocked at how much he had observed, and how inquisitive he was and challenging of his mum's relpies. He did not accept her replies as world fact.

My DS is as opposite to this as is possible I think. He never observes the children / world around him on this kind of level, and wouldn't be able to hold such a complex back and forth conversation.

Like you say in some ways it makes certain aspects of daily life easier (don't question authority figures), but on the other hand it highlights how different he is to his peers (like your teenage comment), and also makes me concerned that he is so compliant it could leave him very vulenrable.

coppertop · 19/04/2010 14:40

My 9yr-old (HFA) is very rule-bound. He can't for the life of him understand why other children aren't.

He does have a tendency to take things very literally so you have to be extremely careful how you word your instructions.

The problem for him is how to decide which rule to follow when two rules contradict each other IYSWIM. So, for example, if he's been asked to take something to a teacher in another classroom, but halfway there the fire alarm goes off. He knows it's important to leave the building when he heard the alarm, but equally he knows it's important to do what the teacher asks him to do.

anonandlikeit · 19/04/2010 16:22

Yes ds2 is very rulebound, to the point where he has very little indipendent thought/decision making skils.
He is 7 & becomes very anxious without direction & upset if he recieves conflicting direction.
However his need for rules overides safety, if i told him to go & sit in the road he would.
As he gets older he is needing more & more support in school as the classroom activities & lessons are given less direction by the teacher he really struggles to know what to do next & relies on his 1 to1 to fill in the blanks.

daisy5678 · 19/04/2010 17:45

J is very keen on rules for everyone...except him. They apparently don't apply to him, but drives all adults mad by telling tales repeatedly on everyone else

Macforme · 19/04/2010 18:01

Yup mine (nearly 13) does exactly as he's told..no more, no less... very literal. Makes him easy in some ways but very inflexible. Also very vulnerable as he would do anything an adult told him to

We have found it almost impossible to help him understand that sometimes he shouldn't do as other say but should think for himself. he also has moderate LD which doesn't help. He has no free will at all (in contrast to his 3 teen siblings who have way too much!!!)

asdx2 · 19/04/2010 18:15

Ds has no independent thought or decision making skills either and needs constant 1 to 1 support in his ASD unit.
I am so worried about his vulnerability because he would do whatever he was told without question no matter whether it was dangerous or illegal.
So scary to think of his future sometimes

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anonandlikeit · 19/04/2010 18:46

It is the future thats scary as in many ways he seems so able, but so vulnerable at the same time.

ArthurPewty · 20/04/2010 07:42

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