Please or to access all these features

SN children

Here are some suggested organisations that offer expert advice on special needs.

IEP AND STATEMENT - DIFFERENCE

11 replies

pokhara · 23/02/2010 17:59

hiya what is the difference between an iep and a statement, just need to know as havig meeting with dsnursery teacher tommorow and ned as much info as poss, many thANKS X

OP posts:
bonkerz · 23/02/2010 18:03

IEP is a list of things your child needs to achive and a list of promises from school on how they will support your child in achieving these things. IEPs are not legally binding STATEMENTS are law and if a statement says a child should have certain support then the school and LEA HAVE to provide it.

StarlightMcKenzie · 23/02/2010 18:03

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

pokhara · 23/02/2010 18:20

so right they can both do the same thing but the statement is more legal binding where as iep they could get away with it

OP posts:
lou031205 · 23/02/2010 18:33

IEP - Individual Education Plan. A sheet of paper that identifies a few of your child's areas of needs, what they intend to do about them, and what they hope to see as a result. Ideally, the targets are SMART (Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Realistic, Time-based), resulting in steady but significant progress towards success in that area.

For example, an IEP might have doing an activity independently for 5 minutes as a target, using a sandtimer.

STATEMENT - A document which firstly identifies the needs of the child (including strengths and weaknesses), then what provision is needed to meet those needs, specifically (either time as 1:1, small group work, specific equipment, therapy such as SALT, input from OT, etc), and which setting will meet them.

Attached to this as appendicies, will be reports from all professionals involved with your child which form the basis for the findings of the statement.

Once statemented, the provision detailed becomes a legal requirement. So the LA has to ensure that it is provided, regardless of other pressures or issues.

Statements are reviewed each year.

A good example would be 1:1. An IEP might provide for 1:1 during literacy time. But, say the school gets another child with additional needs, they may decide to share that time, so your child ends up with 1:2. Or worse, they might decide that they can't afford to give any 1:1, so your child has to just cope.

If a statement says 1:1 during literacy, that is what HAS to happen.

By the way, Pokhara, you know that it is very unlikely that the nursery teacher actually really knows much about statementing, and is even less likely to actually recommend it? One of the mums at my preschool has been sold the line that her DD will get an 'IPA' - Inclusion Partnership Agreement.

Quotes from the blurb:

"The statutory assessment process can be lengthy and may add little value to either understanding a child?s special educational needs or to making arrangements to meet those needs."

"A statutory assessment is not always necessary to provide the reassurance that you want."

"Sometimes, especially for older children, having a statement of SEN can be seen as a stigma and the IPA will avoid this. The process will be less intimidating for your child. Professionals will not need to see your child unnecessarily as part of the process."

"The IPA will be a less bureaucratic process for those who work in the Children?s Services Department SEN Service. It will draw on information from those already concerned with your child rather than waiting for information from someone who might not know your child at all."

Now, let's face it. What it actually means is that a piece of paper with no legal backup will be drawn up after talking to people such as preschool staff (who often have a tiny amount of SEN training), or the SALT who has seen your child 4 times in their life, and who has a vested interest to minimise their needs to reduce their caseload.

StarlightMcKenzie · 23/02/2010 18:43

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

lou031205 · 23/02/2010 18:57

"so right they can both do the same thing but the statement is more legal binding where as iep they could get away with it"

No, no no! The IEP is literally a sort of 'aide memoir' of what your child needs to work on right now, and a way of keeping tabs on progress. (e.g. "see, DD did have a target to sit still for 30 seconds, now she is working on 2 minutes; she has made progress")

The statement is a comprehensive, legal document, which identifies needs, specifies resources to be used, adjustments to be nade and therapies to be given.

Ammendments to the statement take place within a legal process also.

pokhara · 23/02/2010 19:20

thanks all of you, such a difficult subject i think. im seeing the head teacher tom pm wher i think i will be offered an iep, after discussion with a friend i am goning to ask or demand a statement as his language is 20 months delayed. 2 years ago he was 12-18 months behind, so although he is learning at the correct rate he has not made up the time differnce iyswim, it has grown that delay, and thats with having programmes in nusery. i a contemplating a special school for kids with moderate learning difficulties been looking at this this afternoon, but would he b lassed as moderate?????

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 23/02/2010 19:25

pokhara

No re "asking and demanding a statement".
Be instead firm and assertive but do not go in there all guns blazing because they will not take you seriously otherwise.

You would be far better off applying for the Statement yourself. You can appeal in the event the LEA say no, you have far more power than school or nursery ever would in this regard.

pokhara, you are truly your child's best and only advocate. No-one other than you is better placed to fight for his true educational rights. Also no-one else will do it for you.

ArthurPewty · 24/02/2010 10:03

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

StarlightMcKenzie · 24/02/2010 10:21

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

ArthurPewty · 24/02/2010 10:37

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn

New posts on this thread. Refresh page