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pillsthrillsandbellyaches · 21/02/2010 20:22

ds, 3 1/2, with asd. waking at 1am and not going back to sleep till following night. everyone on a knife edge!

paeditrician on annual leave, but gp prescribed circadin (slow release melatonin tablet). seems to help get him to sleep, but still waking during night.

anyone got any ideas? anyone use drugs?

hmm... never came out right.

what i actually mean is, does anyone use medication to get their child to sleep, and if so, what?

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jemmm · 22/02/2010 21:01

It's late, so apologies if this is a bit, well you know a bit...

Our DS asd 2.5 has been on melatonin for 8 months. Made a difference, helped to get him to sleep at night, which had been problematic. But we had a similar problem with him waking in the middle of the night.

The first thing to say is that we get melatonin capsules - they're an unlicensed drug - which appears to mean very little in reality. Our paed gives us those specifically, as our DS would never tolerate a tablet. We break the capsules open, mix them with orange juice, and use a sryinge to administer. Works a treat.

The second thing is that I spoke at length to our paed about the waking in the middle of the night. His thinking was twofold:

Firstly, if melatonin helps to get him to sleep, it will help to keep him asleep. So if he wakes at 4 give him another dose, your body naturally produces melatonin until 6'ish (I think!) anyway. If he's awake at 4am help him back to sleep.

The other thing he mentioned was that we shouldn't give him any positive reinforcement - no talking, stroking, soothing etc. I think we would have found this difficult, except for the fact that we're now just waliing in, giving him his melatonin top up and walking out again - he may mutter for a while, but he eventually gets back to sleep, and we don't have the screaming that we used to have.

It's a fairly new routine - last six weeks or so, and I don't want to tempt fate, but he's slept through the odd time, and he's such a different child through the day. He still has a nap, and he's waking much brighter from those - we've realised that he's now having a nap rather than catching up on sleep he missed through the night.

Sorry, late night rant. Hope it's helpful.

Marne · 23/02/2010 14:28

Well dd2 had a bad night last night, woke at 2 am, went back to sleep on her own, woke again at 4am so i gave her some more Melatonin (which would usually work within 20 mins) and she never went back to sleep, so she's now been awake since 4am and is now yawning. I now have the job of keeping her awake until bed time or she will wake early tonight.

So melatonin doesn't always work in the middle of the night .

wraith · 24/02/2010 13:00

i personally am on a mix of zopiclone and atripolyne...

the zopiclone is a backup incase ihave a bad night..,... with no sleep

seditives sleeping tablets whatever... if there needed theres no harm in using a tool

ArthurPewty · 24/02/2010 13:08

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leavingonajetplane · 24/02/2010 23:10

What? Leonie? What?

lourobert · 25/02/2010 09:31

My ds doesnt sleep well at all. We tried Melatonin which made him 1000 times worse as he would take it and fall asleep fairly quickly but he would wake up an hour later screaming the place down and then cry unconsolably for an hour or so.

My ds can take hours to settle and in this time with shout and cry- I try to just leave him to wear himself out but will give him a little medised on the occasions where the crying is getting to me. I think I cope becuase his dad has him 2 nights a week!

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leavingonajetplane · 25/02/2010 13:37

We have found vallergan worked so well. Will talk to our chemist & GP....Thanks for the warning, Leonie, sorry if I was rude (paniced when i read your post) & I hope things improve for you sleepwise

ArthurPewty · 25/02/2010 16:43

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leavingonajetplane · 25/02/2010 19:42

Oh wow. Now you need the vallergan to stop the itching too! calamine lotion seemed to work somewhat I recall. There are entire threads devoted to chicken pox here i think!

ArthurPewty · 25/02/2010 20:06

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leavingonajetplane · 25/02/2010 20:49

Its about to become very very precious around the country...soon they will be auctioning it on ebay...I am convinced fish oil helped the eczema here.

wraith · 26/02/2010 16:30

mmmm cottage pie love thouse houses in food..

also look into zopiclone, there is lag the next day but its not bad unless you need to take somesort of critical exam or do brainsurgery..

im on a mix of it and anatriptline (blegh spelling)

sickofsocalledexperts · 26/02/2010 19:16

Piriton is great for the itchiness of chicken pox and (great big bonus) it's also drowsy! Lifesaver when my two got chicken pox, and still in my cupboard to this day for alternating with other meds like melatonin, medised and tixylix for sleep problems!

ArthurPewty · 26/02/2010 20:02

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leavingonajetplane · 26/02/2010 20:37

Hope it goes well for you tonight.

ArthurPewty · 27/02/2010 10:29

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leavingonajetplane · 27/02/2010 19:00

I do indeed know what you mean. DS has Downs and Autism so it comes out a bit differently but we have been following our repetitive weekend routine, without fail today. Keeps life manageable and us happier.

Thats a nice theory of your GPs but although vallergan has been very useful for sleep and thus stabilising DS (less likely to get overwhelmed when less tired of course), vallergan has not cured his autism!

Greatthat you got a good nights sleep, hope there is arepeat performance tonight

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